Man falls in accident at DL TOT

Tigger1988

Well-Known Member
Look at this set-up! How is Disney not responsible. Anyone can topple right over that railing...it hardly goes to the ceiling

Guests shouldn't be on the railings, ever. They are warned to not sit on, stand on, hang off off the railings. Disney is not responsible for stupidity.

They even have those Timon and Pumba "Wild about Safety" posters hanging on buses, and in park maps. One deals with not sitting on railings.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
At DCA, each shaft in TOT has two cars and two load levels, an upper and a lower. The upper load level is where the drop is at.

I couldn't find a picture of DCA's upper load level doing a quick Google search, but I did find one for the TOT at WDS in Paris. Their layouts are very similar.

http://www.mouse-studios.com/WDS/im...actions/Tower-of-Terror/Tower-of-Terror08.jpg

Yep. That's an accurate sense of it the DCA load area queue as well. This sounds like just a case of a guest being careless and clumsy. I sure hope it doesn't result in significant changes, but I could seem pressure to make railings/fences in 2nd level queues at least 8 feet high, or something like that, to make climbing over the top impossible.
 

powlessfamily4

Well-Known Member
I can't imagine what he was thinking. I also get tired of all the extra precaution and safeguards that cost money and raise prices, but have to be put into place because people do not use common sense. Do you need to be told not to play around on a second story railing? if your 5, 9 or even 10 yes, but 20????
 

trr1

Well-Known Member
Careful... If I would have posted something about "natural selection" with respect to the CM who died in the WDW monorail accident, well, I would have been stoned to death on this board.

When a guest gets injured, it's okay to joke, but when a CM gets injured, it's not okay because a CM could never be as careless as a guest, right...? :brick:
I think you are trying to compare apples and oranges here.
first with the accident you are referring to with a CM who died
he did not do anything that would put his life in harm like playing chicken with another monorail or riding with the door open and his head sticking out. he was sitting at the station

second the gentleman who was hurt at disneyland. He climbed over a barrier that is intended to keep people away from an unsafe area, then if i understand the layout of cali's TOT you go down one floor to the loading area if thats the case it seems as if he was trying to get to the area below in order to linejump .
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
I think you are trying to compare apples and oranges here.
first with the accident you are referring to with a CM who died
he did not do anything that would put his life in harm like playing chicken with another monorail or riding with the door open and his head sticking out. he was sitting at the station

second the gentleman who was hurt at disneyland. He climbed over a barrier that is intended to keep people away from an unsafe area, then if i understand the layout of cali's TOT you go down one floor to the loading area if thats the case it seems as if he was trying to get to the area below in order to linejump .

No, that's not it. The ride loads on two floors (indeed, each "car" has two levels). It seems he was waiting in line to load on the second level. So he probably climbed over because he was just messing around.
 

trr1

Well-Known Member
No, that's not it. The ride loads on two floors (indeed, each "car" has two levels). It seems he was waiting in line to load on the second level. So he probably climbed over because he was just messing around.
thank you for clarifying the layout
but he still climbed over a barrier to the area below
 

trr1

Well-Known Member
Yes! That's absolutely right. :sohappy: And I'm not comparing, I'm contrasting.
however I think you still are comparing
When a guest or CM gets injured by their own stupidity it might not be nice to joke about it but people some times do, , but when a guest or CM gets injured by nothing they did wrong then its not ok to joke in my opinion

also if a guest or CM dies either by their fault or by accident its still not ok to joke
 

Timekeeper

Well-Known Member
also if a guest or CM dies either by their fault or by accident its still not ok to joke

I can respect that opinion, but please understand that the first rule of comedy is that nothing is sacred. This is a common understanding among writers, comedians, etc. Disabilities, misfortunes, death, natural disasters, acts of terrorism... all are fair game from a comedic standpoint. Granted, comedy is one of the most subjective forms of performance art, so to each her own.

CMs have done some pretty stupid things over the years, but they are traditionally given the benefit of the doubt on this board whereas, guests are traditionally blamed without hesitation. But heck, it's a Disney fan-based board, so that's exactly what we all expect. :)
 

trr1

Well-Known Member
I can respect that opinion, but please understand that the first rule of comedy is that nothing is sacred. This is a common understanding among writers, comedians, etc. Disabilities, misfortunes, death, natural disasters, acts of terrorism... all are fair game from a comedic standpoint. Granted, comedy is one of the most subjective forms of performance art, so to each her own.

CMs have done some pretty stupid things over the years, but they are traditionally given the benefit of the doubt on this board whereas, guests are traditionally blamed without hesitation. But heck, it's a Disney fan-based board, so that's exactly what we all expect. :)
I can understand that and most writers, comedians, etc would wait
for an appropriate amount of time in their own opinion before making
jokes, sketches and such
 

lilclerk

Well-Known Member
22.3 years.
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fngoofy

Well-Known Member
Supposedly he was drinking.

Just goes to show you that drinks at parks probably isn't a good idea. Especially in parks that have places where you can fall 25 feet :eek:

I beg to differ. Dummies at parks aren't a good idea.
Reminds me of this comedy bit from Bill Hicks:

News is supposed to be objective, isn't it? . . . But every drugs story is negative? . . . Same LSD story every time: "Young man on acid, thought he could fly, jumped out of a building. What a tragedy."

What a d*&k! Don't go blaming acid on this guy. If he thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first to check it out? . . .
 

SoupBone

Well-Known Member
Look at this set-up! How is Disney not responsible. Anyone can topple right over that railing...it hardly goes to the ceiling

I hope this is sarcasm because if not....wow.

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