Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[Lilofan]

I thin your confusing the right to search with being searched as a condition of entry. If they walk up to you at Disney springs, they cannot search you. If they do, it's battery.

The signs to search at your former employer were a condition of your employment. You can refuse, but you'll probably be fired.

Still has nothing to do with 4th...

If Disney security pulls you aside because you fit the description of a suspected shoplifter at Disney Springs , think about it, do they need your consent to search you?

 

[MisterPenguin]

A long sleeve hoodie and mask can hide your appearance from a camera. And even if you see something happening on camera, how long will it take to respond to the location? It’s like alarms, alarms go off, takes a couple minutes for police to get to the alarm and things are already stolen and missing.

An additional thought, these thefts are happening by employees with id’s and uniforms. What they are doing may look normal and not cause alarm.

You go to the video and keep jumping back until the stolen item is present. You jump forward to when it's gone and then you can narrow in to when it was transported away.

You can then look at the video of the door, parking lot, and gate to follow the stolen item and get a license plate number.

If there are employees or anyone walking around backstage with a hoodie pulled across their face... they would tend to stand out.

 

[Timmay]

Disney is almost 50 square miles... it is impossible to cover all of their assets at all times with or without technology...that’s like asking why any crime happens at all, anywhere in a city with police...there are close to 60k law enforcement officers in New York City, there is still a ton of crime in an area of similar size.

It’s very possible to cover it all. It might me a tiny bit cost prohibitive... but it’s most certainly possible.

 

[Dragonman]

If there are employees or anyone walking around backstage with a hoodie pulled across their face... they would tend to stand out.

Yup

 

[flynnibus]

If Disney security pulls you aside because you fit the description of a suspected shoplifter at Disney Springs , think about it, do they need your consent to search you?

You're adding in important critical elements... like 'reasonable cause', the idea a crime is being committed, and most importantly blurring over WHO does the searching. Disney as a private entity does not have the right to search you (even if they think a crime was committed). They will call the police, who will use the probable cause as presented by the evidence provided by the store, to search you.

Providing consent to search as part of the terms of service is another way companies gain that access. But random property owner does not have the right to search you.

 

[My95cobras]

You go to the video and keep jumping back until the stolen item is present. You jump forward to when it's gone and then you can narrow in to when it was transported away.

You can then look at the video of the door, parking lot, and gate to follow the stolen item and get a license plate number.

If there are employees or anyone walking around backstage with a hoodie pulled across their face... they would tend to stand out.

Thanks.... But I know how video works.

 

[My95cobras]

You're adding in important critical elements... like 'reasonable cause', the idea a crime is being committed, and most importantly blurring over WHO does the searching. Disney as a private entity does not have the right to search you (even if they think a crime was committed). They will call the police, who will use the probable cause as presented by the evidence provided by the store, to search you.

Providing consent to search as part of the terms of service is another way companies gain that access. But random property owner does not have the right to search you.

I'm glad someone understands.

 

[My95cobras]

If Disney security pulls you aside because you fit the description of a suspected shoplifter at Disney Springs , think about it, do they need your consent to search you?

They can detain you until police show up if you have committed a crime. Similar to Walmart security. If you resist them, there is a misdemeanor in Florida for resisting a merchant.

They still do not have the right to search you.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Prosecutors are seeking a Nolle Prosequi( Formal abandonment) for Count 5, tampering with physical evidence.

So lock your doors real tight Disney, BDD will be coming back thanks to a bunch of loopholes.

 

[OrlandoRising]

Prosecutors are seeking a Nolle Prosequi( Formal abandonment) for Count 5, tampering with physical evidence.

So lock your doors real tight Disney, BDD will be coming back thanks to a bunch of loopholes.

I don't think it's fair to label this a loophole.

Spikes' attorney accurately described Florida law on this matter: if you're arrested for a felony, the state has 175 days after being brought into custody to bring it to trial. This tampering charge -- which wasn't present in the May affidavit -- was based on Spikes' arrest in December when he was brought in for questioning by OCSO. So the 175-day time limit had already passed months ago.

The four other charges for Spikes are still intact.

 

[tribbleorlfl]

I don't think it's fair to label this a loophole.

Spikes' attorney accurately described Florida law on this matter: if you're arrested for a felony, the state has 175 days after being brought into custody to bring it to trial. This tampering charge -- which wasn't present in the May affidavit -- was based on Spikes' arrest in December when he was brought in for questioning by OCSO. So the 175-day time limit had already passed months ago.

The four other charges for Spikes are still intact.

I agree. That charge arose from his resisting arrest charge that was dropped, which in turn was from the Buzzy clothes investigation. The other 4 charges are based on the theft of the Haunted Mansion stuff, which was a different (though obviously related) investigation.

 

[justintheharris]

Prosecutors are seeking a Nolle Prosequi( Formal abandonment) for Count 5, tampering with physical evidence.

So lock your doors real tight Disney, BDD will be coming back thanks to a bunch of loopholes.

You actually believe they're going to drop charges against him for everything? He's getting the maximum sentence. He's almost certainly getting convicted and when he goes up for sentencing, the judge will likely give him a hard sentence because there's just a truly unbelievable display of arrogance surrounding his case. There's not a soul in the world who's going to go easy on him. And justifiably so. He will be in the prison no less than 5 years.

 

[JoeCamel]

You actually believe they're going to drop charges against him for everything? He's getting the maximum sentence. He's almost certainly getting convicted and when he goes up for sentencing, the judge will likely give him a hard sentence because there's just a truly unbelievable display of arrogance surrounding his case. There's not a soul in the world who's going to go easy on him. And justifiably so. He will be in the prison no less than 5 years.

Quoted for the future

 

[Lilofan]

You actually believe they're going to drop charges against him for everything? He's getting the maximum sentence. He's almost certainly getting convicted and when he goes up for sentencing, the judge will likely give him a hard sentence because there's just a truly unbelievable display of arrogance surrounding his case. There's not a soul in the world who's going to go easy on him. And justifiably so. He will be in the prison no less than 5 years.

If he shows his arrogance in court, then he may get more than 5. If he is a first time offender and begs for mercy maybe less than 5. His lawyers will for sure coach him through the process.

 

[flynnibus]

the realities of a crowded jail system and lack of prior record probably means this kid doesn't get any hard time.

You can watch complete basket cases go in and out of the courts a dozen times and avoid jail time without any real legal resources behind them. This is a kid with parent resources behind him still I'm sure.

Just getting the convictions will be the win.. even if the mandatories kick in, I doubt he serves them. Our penal system simply can't absorb all the convictions.

 

[justintheharris]

If he shows his arrogance in court, then he may get more than 5. If he is a first time offender and begs for mercy maybe less than 5. His lawyers will for sure coach him through the process.

It doesn't matter if he begs for mercy now. It's too late. His social media presence will weigh more than any beg for mercy he can make in court.

 

[justintheharris]

the realities of a crowded jail system and lack of prior record probably means this kid doesn't get any hard time.

You can watch complete basket cases go in and out of the courts a dozen times and avoid jail time without any real legal resources behind them. This is a kid with parent resources behind him still I'm sure.

Just getting the convictions will be the win.. even if the mandatories kick in, I doubt he serves them. Our penal system simply can't absorb all the convictions.

I understand all of that but with his attitude, I have a feeling he'll do hard time. If he had simply been a thief and selling items, that would be one thing. But he aspired to make a career of doing it and bragging about it and anyone in the court room can be easily convinced that if he gets let go, he will IMMEDIATELY go off to do it more. Quite truthfully, I could totally see him going from the court house straight to Disney property just so he could stick it to Disney. So we'll see. Anything is possible but I'm fairly convinced Spikes is going away for a while.

 

[Lilofan]

I understand all of that but with his attitude, I have a feeling he'll do hard time. If he had simply been a thief and selling items, that would be one thing. But he aspired to make a career of doing it and bragging about it and anyone in the court room can be easily convinced that if he gets let go, he will IMMEDIATELY go off to do it more. Quite truthfully, I could totally see him going from the court house straight to Disney property just so he could stick it to Disney. So we'll see. Anything is possible but I'm fairly convinced Spikes is going away for a while.

Hard time? That's wishful thinking. He may not even get jail time and may get probation. If he gets jail time, you can thank him for cleaning up the litter on the local main roads wearing his orange jumpsuit.

 

[flynnibus]

I understand all of that but with his attitude, I have a feeling he'll do hard time. If he had simply been a thief and selling items, that would be one thing. But he aspired to make a career of doing it and bragging about it and anyone in the court room can be easily convinced that if he gets let go, he will IMMEDIATELY go off to do it more. Quite truthfully, I could totally see him going from the court house straight to Disney property just so he could stick it to Disney. So we'll see. Anything is possible but I'm fairly convinced Spikes is going away for a while.

Yeah but this isnt judge judy... the courts have much bigger fish to fry.

 

[Victor Kelly]

Can always make him pick up litter on Disney property. Doubt he gets much if anything like Flynn said, bigger fish out there.