Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[Lilofan]

Dear Disney Security,

You may not be aware, but there are now these things called 'motion detectors' that can cause alarms to go off (audibly or silently), or, at the very least, turn bright lights on. Coupled with video cams that record when motion is detected, you can have a record of all movement in your back of house. Check with the WDI guys, I'm telling the truth! Oh wait, they're not talking to you. Sorry, forgot. Anyway, good luck!

It's not in the budget. Maybe if Mr Potato Head gets stolen, it may get a second look.

 

[My95cobras]

Dear Disney Security,

You may not be aware, but there are now these things called 'motion detectors' that can cause alarms to go off (audibly or silently), or, at the very least, turn bright lights on. Coupled with video cams that record when motion is detected, you can have a record of all movement in your back of house. Check with the WDI guys, I'm telling the truth! Oh wait, they're not talking to you. Sorry, forgot. Anyway, good luck!

Disney is almost 50 square miles... it is impossible to cover all of their assets at all times with or without technology...that’s like asking why any crime happens at all, anywhere in a city with police...there are close to 60k law enforcement officers in New York City, there is still a ton of crime in an area of similar size.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disney is almost 50 square miles... it is impossible to cover all of their assets at all times with or without technology...that’s like asking why any crime happens at all, anywhere in a city with police...there are close to 60k law enforcement officers in New York City, there is still a ton of crime in an area of similar size.

You don't have to point cameras at empty stretches of road or swampland.

 

[Lilofan]

Disney is almost 50 square miles... it is impossible to cover all of their assets at all times with or without technology...that’s like asking why any crime happens at all, anywhere in a city with police...there are close to 60k law enforcement officers in New York City, there is still a ton of crime in an area of similar size.

Since Disney is on private property, Security has the right to search and they can improve on that. Can NYC police do that? Last I heard NYC cops have to keep the 4th amendment in mind.

 

[My95cobras]

Since Disney is on private property, Security has the right to search and they can improve on that. Can NYC police do that? Last I heard NYC cops have to keep the 4th amendment in mind.

1. They do not have the right to search. You can absolutely refuse for them to search you. You will not be allowed in the parks, but under no circumstances can they just stop and search you without your consent.

2. 4th amendment is a moot point. What does searching people have to do with stopping a burglary or theft at a backstage building?

 

[My95cobras]

You don't have to point cameras at empty stretches of road or swampland.

A long sleeve hoodie and mask can hide your appearance from a camera. And even if you see something happening on camera, how long will it take to respond to the location? It’s like alarms, alarms go off, takes a couple minutes for police to get to the alarm and things are already stolen and missing.

An additional thought, these thefts are happening by employees with id’s and uniforms. What they are doing may look normal and not cause alarm.

Yes, there are measures that can be taken, but they are not as effective as you’d think and definitely not a cure all.

 

[Lilofan]

1. They do not have the right to search. You can absolutely refuse for them to search you. You will not be allowed in the parks, but under no circumstances can they just stop and search you without your consent.

2. 4th amendment is a moot point. What does searching people have to do with stopping a burglary or theft at a backstage building?

Disney has the right to search ( private company). If you refuse, you will be refused entry. If Disney security stops a suspected shoplifter which happens, do you think they need the suspected shoplifter's consent to search?? In a company I used to work for, their were posted signs that everyone can be subjected to search by security. By the way, consent is out the window..

 

[My95cobras]

Disney has the right to search ( private company). If you refuse, you will be refused entry. If Disney security stops a suspected shoplifter which happens, do you think they need the suspected shoplifter's consent to search?? In a company I used to work for, their were posted signs that everyone can be subjected to search by security. By the way, consent is out the window..

I thin your confusing the right to search with being searched as a condition of entry. If they walk up to you at Disney springs, they cannot search you. If they do, it's battery.

The signs to search at your former employer were a condition of your employment. You can refuse, but you'll probably be fired.

Still has nothing to do with 4th...

 

[Lilofan]

I thin your confusing the right to search with being searched as a condition of entry. If they walk up to you at Disney springs, they cannot search you. If they do, it's battery.

The signs to search at your former employer were a condition of your employment. You can refuse, but you'll probably be fired.

Still has nothing to do with 4th...

If Disney security pulls you aside because you fit the description of a suspected shoplifter at Disney Springs , think about it, do they need your consent to search you?

 

[MisterPenguin]

A long sleeve hoodie and mask can hide your appearance from a camera. And even if you see something happening on camera, how long will it take to respond to the location? It’s like alarms, alarms go off, takes a couple minutes for police to get to the alarm and things are already stolen and missing.

An additional thought, these thefts are happening by employees with id’s and uniforms. What they are doing may look normal and not cause alarm.

You go to the video and keep jumping back until the stolen item is present. You jump forward to when it's gone and then you can narrow in to when it was transported away.

You can then look at the video of the door, parking lot, and gate to follow the stolen item and get a license plate number.

If there are employees or anyone walking around backstage with a hoodie pulled across their face... they would tend to stand out.

 

[Timmay]

Disney is almost 50 square miles... it is impossible to cover all of their assets at all times with or without technology...that’s like asking why any crime happens at all, anywhere in a city with police...there are close to 60k law enforcement officers in New York City, there is still a ton of crime in an area of similar size.

It’s very possible to cover it all. It might me a tiny bit cost prohibitive... but it’s most certainly possible.

 

[Dragonman]

If there are employees or anyone walking around backstage with a hoodie pulled across their face... they would tend to stand out.

Yup

 

[flynnibus]

If Disney security pulls you aside because you fit the description of a suspected shoplifter at Disney Springs , think about it, do they need your consent to search you?

You're adding in important critical elements... like 'reasonable cause', the idea a crime is being committed, and most importantly blurring over WHO does the searching. Disney as a private entity does not have the right to search you (even if they think a crime was committed). They will call the police, who will use the probable cause as presented by the evidence provided by the store, to search you.

Providing consent to search as part of the terms of service is another way companies gain that access. But random property owner does not have the right to search you.

 

[My95cobras]

You go to the video and keep jumping back until the stolen item is present. You jump forward to when it's gone and then you can narrow in to when it was transported away.

You can then look at the video of the door, parking lot, and gate to follow the stolen item and get a license plate number.

If there are employees or anyone walking around backstage with a hoodie pulled across their face... they would tend to stand out.

Thanks.... But I know how video works.

 

[My95cobras]

You're adding in important critical elements... like 'reasonable cause', the idea a crime is being committed, and most importantly blurring over WHO does the searching. Disney as a private entity does not have the right to search you (even if they think a crime was committed). They will call the police, who will use the probable cause as presented by the evidence provided by the store, to search you.

Providing consent to search as part of the terms of service is another way companies gain that access. But random property owner does not have the right to search you.

I'm glad someone understands.

 

[My95cobras]

If Disney security pulls you aside because you fit the description of a suspected shoplifter at Disney Springs , think about it, do they need your consent to search you?

They can detain you until police show up if you have committed a crime. Similar to Walmart security. If you resist them, there is a misdemeanor in Florida for resisting a merchant.

They still do not have the right to search you.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Prosecutors are seeking a Nolle Prosequi( Formal abandonment) for Count 5, tampering with physical evidence.

So lock your doors real tight Disney, BDD will be coming back thanks to a bunch of loopholes.

 

[OrlandoRising]

Prosecutors are seeking a Nolle Prosequi( Formal abandonment) for Count 5, tampering with physical evidence.

So lock your doors real tight Disney, BDD will be coming back thanks to a bunch of loopholes.

I don't think it's fair to label this a loophole.

Spikes' attorney accurately described Florida law on this matter: if you're arrested for a felony, the state has 175 days after being brought into custody to bring it to trial. This tampering charge -- which wasn't present in the May affidavit -- was based on Spikes' arrest in December when he was brought in for questioning by OCSO. So the 175-day time limit had already passed months ago.

The four other charges for Spikes are still intact.

 

[tribbleorlfl]

I don't think it's fair to label this a loophole.

Spikes' attorney accurately described Florida law on this matter: if you're arrested for a felony, the state has 175 days after being brought into custody to bring it to trial. This tampering charge -- which wasn't present in the May affidavit -- was based on Spikes' arrest in December when he was brought in for questioning by OCSO. So the 175-day time limit had already passed months ago.

The four other charges for Spikes are still intact.

I agree. That charge arose from his resisting arrest charge that was dropped, which in turn was from the Buzzy clothes investigation. The other 4 charges are based on the theft of the Haunted Mansion stuff, which was a different (though obviously related) investigation.

 

[justintheharris]

Prosecutors are seeking a Nolle Prosequi( Formal abandonment) for Count 5, tampering with physical evidence.

So lock your doors real tight Disney, BDD will be coming back thanks to a bunch of loopholes.

You actually believe they're going to drop charges against him for everything? He's getting the maximum sentence. He's almost certainly getting convicted and when he goes up for sentencing, the judge will likely give him a hard sentence because there's just a truly unbelievable display of arrogance surrounding his case. There's not a soul in the world who's going to go easy on him. And justifiably so. He will be in the prison no less than 5 years.