Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[The Grand Inquisitor]

I'm sorry, dude. I'm worried about him too

Yeah. I really hope they find buzzy. Its just wrong to steal other peoples property just really wrong.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Just think, we all knew where Buzzy was until November. Now almost nobody does.

That's usually how theft works.

Something is there...and then it's not.

 

[MattFrees71]

I saw months ago that it had been confirmed from multiple insiders that imagineers had hastily taken him out once his clothes were stolen in fear that he himself would be stolen, and then other Disney people came in and saw him missing and freaked out and the filed the police report (right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing).

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

I saw months ago that it had been confirmed from multiple insiders that imagineers had hastily taken him out once his clothes were stolen in fear that he himself would be stolen, and then other Disney people came in and saw him missing and freaked out and the filed the police report (right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing).

If this were the case I dont think OSCO would confirm the theft in may.

 

[NormC]

I saw months ago that it had been confirmed from multiple insiders that imagineers had hastily taken him out once his clothes were stolen in fear that he himself would be stolen, and then other Disney people came in and saw him missing and freaked out and the filed the police report (right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing).

That could still be the case but given the latest police reports from OCSO it is likely that he was actually stolen.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

I saw months ago that it had been confirmed from multiple insiders that imagineers had hastily taken him out once his clothes were stolen in fear that he himself would be stolen, and then other Disney people came in and saw him missing and freaked out and the filed the police report (right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing).

Yeah, a lot of people didn't know what they were talking about.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Yeah, a lot of people didn't know what they were talking about.

Look I don't want to pick a fight. But you're unreliable. You obviously have a personal relationship with spikes.

You recorded a podcast together. Had the podcast continued it would have been possible to sell ads, you stood to benefit financially from your relationship with spikes.

How can we trust your reliability? Saying the AA just up an vanished in November could be disinformation to protect spikes, who's currently suspect #1.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Look I don't want to pick a fight. But you're unreliable. You obviously have a personal relationship with spikes.

You recorded a podcast together. Had the podcast continued it would have been possible to sell ads, you stood to benefit financially from your relationship with spikes.

How can we trust your reliability? Saying the AA just up an vanished in November could be disinformation to protect spikes, who's currently suspect #1.

Well, to start I was only gonna be in the one podcast. The second episode was recorded but never released (Quick, someone go make a lost media wiki page! lmao). And secondly, I understand what you're saying. However, was it not stated in the police report that the AA went missing in November? I'm asking because I seriously don't remember. As the timeline goes, to my knowledge, is that his gloves went in 2012, private collector, then his jacket and hat went in August, again to a private collector. It was at that point or shortly thereafter that the photos of the clothes in his car were taken. Then, the whole AA went missing. It was sometime late at night in November that he DM'd that to me, and we both played it off as fake and absurd (Again, this could be a source of bias where he might've been faking the hell out of it to put on a show for me, although I personally doubt it) until the police got involved. That's when the story went mainstream. He had mentioned to me long before (in like July or something) that he knew someone had the face mold, and that's where I assume the photo on his page came from. The person who showed me pics of the gloves had then told me right as this stuff started that they no longer had them, and shortly thereafter deleted their (anonymous) twitter account. I have no means of contact with them anymore. This whole story is really a tangled mess of "He said"s all over everywhere. Nobody is gonna have a concrete story, possibly ever.

 

[glawio]

Well, to start I was only gonna be in the one podcast. The second episode was recorded but never released (Quick, someone go make a lost media wiki page! lmao). And secondly, I understand what you're saying. However, was it not stated in the police report that the AA went missing in November? I'm asking because I seriously don't remember. As the timeline goes, to my knowledge, is that his gloves went in 2012, private collector, then his jacket and hat went in August, again to a private collector. It was at that point or shortly thereafter that the photos of the clothes in his car were taken. Then, the whole AA went missing. It was sometime late at night in November that he DM'd that to me, and we both played it off as fake and absurd (Again, this could be a source of bias where he might've been faking the hell out of it to put on a show for me, although I personally doubt it) until the police got involved. That's when the story went mainstream. He had mentioned to me long before (in like July or something) that he knew someone had the face mold, and that's where I assume the photo on his page came from. The person who showed me pics of the gloves had then told me right as this stuff started that they no longer had them, and shortly thereafter deleted their (anonymous) twitter account. I have no means of contact with them anymore. This whole story is really a tangled mess of "He said"s all over everywhere. Nobody is gonna have a concrete story, possibly ever.

I gotta say I appreciate your maturity with this in accepting that your friend has indeed been lying, possibly to you as well.

I do feel for you, you're quite young and it must suck to find a friend online who enjoys the same niche thing as you only to find out they're a criminal. Hope you're able to find some better friends in the near future

 

[rocketraccoon]

Anyone know enough about the inner workings of Mansion to know which animatronics the clothes were stolen from?

Also after reading the police report, he took geotagged pictures of everything he stole and pictures of himself and his friends wearing it.
He is the dumbest criminal.

Late reply but he even released them geotragged originally! The Great Movie Ride pictures he put out originally still had all the EXIF data (information attached to images) with the time, location, and phone he took them with. Wasn't the brightest tool in the shed.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Late reply but he even released them geotragged originally! The Great Movie Ride pictures he put out originally still had all the EXIF data (information attached to images) with the time, location, and phone he took them with. Wasn't the brightest tool in the shed.

This is probably why Disney knew he was a suspect long before any questioning.

 

[Tom Morrow]

So in regards to police reports saying Buzzy was stolen,

Either other people at Disney freaked out that the animatronic was stolen and filed the report not knowing that another department had removed him, or the police themselves heard all the rumors flying around and mentioned in the report that Buzzy is “believed to be stolen” but never actually outright confirmed it as a statement, right?

Because if so then that still isn’t confirmation that Buzzy was in fact stolen.

I still find it highly unlikely. Anyone who attempted it would have had to have a team plus tons of equipment plus a vehicle backstage to transport Buzzy out.

 

[SirWillow]

So in regards to police reports saying Buzzy was stolen,

Either other people at Disney freaked out that the animatronic was stolen and filed the report not knowing that another department had removed him, or the police themselves heard all the rumors flying around and mentioned in the report that Buzzy is “believed to be stolen” but never actually outright confirmed it as a statement, right?

Because if so then that still isn’t confirmation that Buzzy was in fact stolen.

I still find it highly unlikely. Anyone who attempted it would have had to have a team plus tons of equipment plus a vehicle backstage to transport Buzzy out.

This is what has me stumped about the whole thing. To get that figure out, it would require a vehicle backstage, as there's no way that's getting moved through the park. That vehicle would have to be cleared by security to get in and out- which means they would have had to have authorization to bring it backstage. And it's going to have to be a big enough vehicle to not just hold Buzzy, but also equipment to remove and more than likely carry Buzzy from his "residence" to the vehicle. Probably the easiest part of all of that would be getting in the building. But it's also not unusual for Disney to lock down buildings that aren't in use.

Oh, and no one would have to notice the vehicle was there, ask any questions, check authorizations, and security would have to clear the load being removed again as well, as nothing is supposed to get through security on the way out without receipts, clearance forms, etc.

I'm not saying our friend didn't do it. But there's a lot of hurdles there that I'm also wondering how he got past, and what the Disney security tapes and logs show.

 

[peter11435]

This is what has me stumped about the whole thing. To get that figure out, it would require a vehicle backstage, as there's no way that's getting moved through the park. That vehicle would have to be cleared by security to get in and out- which means they would have had to have authorization to bring it backstage. And it's going to have to be a big enough vehicle to not just hold Buzzy, but also equipment to remove and more than likely carry Buzzy from his "residence" to the vehicle. Probably the easiest part of all of that would be getting in the building. But it's also not unusual for Disney to lock down buildings that aren't in use.

Oh, and no one would have to notice the vehicle was there, ask any questions, check authorizations, and security would have to clear the load being removed again as well, as nothing is supposed to get through security on the way out without receipts, clearance forms, etc.

I'm not saying our friend didn't do it. But there's a lot of hurdles there that I'm also wondering how he got past, and what the Disney security tapes and logs show.

Security really doesn’t check the vehicles leaving.

 

[SirWillow]

Security really doesn’t check the vehicles leaving.

then that's a big change from when I worked there. Used to be they would make vehicles open their trunk and trucks open the back on the way out.

And you still couldn't bring a vehicle in without clearance and authorization.

 

[peter11435]

then that's a big change from when I worked there. Used to be they would make vehicles open their trunk and trucks open the back on the way out.

And you still couldn't bring a vehicle in without clearance and authorization.

They still do when vehicles are entering. But Vehicles have almost never been checked while leaving for at least the last decade. Occasional random checks but extremely rare.

Clearance is required to bring s vehicle in

 

[SirWillow]

They still do when vehicles are entering. But Vehicles have almost never been checked while leaving for at least the last decade. Occasional random checks but extremely rare.

Clearance is required to bring s vehicle in

Like I said, it would be a big change then from when I worked there (left in 2011). The two times I was in vehicles that were driven back stage besides the cast bus, they opened everything on the way in and out. And on the way out anything Disney they saw we had to have a form explaining what it was and why we had it and where it was going- outside of anything that could be considered "personal" such as a single shirt, jacket, or a few pins like they normally check when you're coming or going through a cast entrance.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Retrowdw interviewed a TV producer who use to work at Disney MGM and got his start catering on film sets. I am paraphrasing and may be mixing up interviews but I am pretty sure he said if you drove a plain econovan backstage no one would really pay any mind. He use to collect ice from epcot restaurants for tv/film shoots.
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It's quite possible the perps got a van back there unnoticed.

Obviously we don't know for sure if spikes did it. But...
Spikes was an employee with a legit employee id. He purchased an ID Card Printer to make more fake IDs. We know that's how he got his cousin into HM.

Bunch of guys with ID lanyards, black slacks and black polos probably aren't going to fire off warning bells backstage.

All that on top of fairly slack security, I'd imagine its possible for someone to get buzzy out.

I am just wondering how Buzzy was removed off his perch. Whoever did it had the tools to cut through his chair, maybe even theme park construction experience.

Time will tell.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

I am just wondering how Buzzy was removed off his perch. Whoever did it had the tools to cut through his chair, maybe even theme park construction experience.

Looks like he was pretty much just unscrewed and sliced out.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

If some wardrobe and wigs from HM totalled 14K How much do we think WDW values Buzzy at? If they were to press charges of theft. 20-50K more??