News Major Hurricane Dorian impacts to Walt Disney World 2019

LAKid53

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What worries me most is that it looks so slow. Irma moved through pretty quickly.

Andrew blew through South Florida at a speed over 15MPH. Imagine if that storm had done the usual 7-8 mph meander through town? *shudders*

This is another thing to consider. If Dorian maintains strength, but slows down once it hits land, there's MILLIONS of gallons of water it can dump on the state.
 

tribbleorlfl

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Andrew blew through South Florida at a speed over 15MPH. Imagine if that storm had done the usual 7-8 mph meander through town? *shudders*

This is another thing to consider. If Dorian maintains strength, but slows down once it hits land, there's MILLIONS of gallons of water it can dump on the state.
Yeah, but Disney World will totes have short lines! /s
 

LAKid53

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Probably because before Hurricane Irma, on a very similar WDWMagic thread , many people berated me and several others for not cancelling our vacations.
I was ready to, and certainly would have if I needed to.
But I waited, and had one of the best vacations I've ever had.
This is a Walt Disney World Site.
We talk about the storm as it's related to Walt Disney World.
It's very frustrating for people who have vacations there planned. And I don't think people should be bullied into canceling unless they really have thought it through and want to do that.

The impacts of this storm will extend beyond the 43 square miles of WDW. THAT needs to be taken into consideration.
 

LAKid53

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of central Florida's electricity is provided by Florida-based coal powered generation plants and some Nuclear. Both of those sources of energy are reliable and designed to withstand a hurricane.

Short term there may be some Orlando-area outages caused by overhead lines going down, but mid and long term the coal and Nuclear plants will keep right on chugging along. God bless 'em!

The issue is not the generation of the power, but the transmission of it through the grid. A storm the magnitude that Dorian is projected to be can shred those transmission lines. Trust me, Hermine did a number to Tallahassee's grid....and not just from the over 1,000 trees that fell. My brother's house was nearly split in two by one of his neighbor's trees.

And inland areas can experience flooding. 2 feet of rain dropped in 3 hours will be a real nightmare. Especially if the ground is already saturated from prior days of rain.
 

LAKid53

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Now, forgive me, but I lived in South Carolina for quite a few years, before Hugo devastated Charleston, but we prepared every August for hurricane season. And for decades I've lived here in SoCal in earthquake country. That said, why on earth would anyone in SoCal allow their gas tank to get below half a tank? And why would anyone living in SoCal not have 20 gallons of bottled water, a week of canned food, plywood and tools, a firearm and ammo, propane, a first aid kit, a mobile survival kit in their car's trunk, etc. to be ready for the big one?

And if that's how people live in SoCal, where we had a distant 7.2 earthquake from the high desert rumble through this summer and I just laughed it off because I was ready for the closer San Andreas to rip through with a 7.8, then how are there people in Florida not ready for the utterly predictable and annual hurricane season? In SoCal an earthquake can hit any time with no warning, and you have to be ready. 2am on a January weekday, or 4pm on a July weekend afternoon, a killer earthquake in SoCal can happen instantly at any time. But in Florida every year, like clockwork, from August thru October, you may be faced with a hurricane. And you get three full days to prepare for the hurricane, unlike with an earthquake when it just happens instantly without warning.

So how does an entire populace of a state so perfectly placed to face such an annual occurrence (also known as Florida) not be prepared for that annual occurrence? What is it about Florida that people don't prepare with $50 worth of basic supplies every July to be ready for the August to October climate that breeds hurricanes big and small that aim right at the state of Florida? How do you not be ready for that?

As a resident of both the coastal South and of Southern California, I'm honestly confused why some Floridians think Dorian was a surprise.

California native, now Florida resident here. Yes, we've got a hurricane season. Yes, we get advanced warning. But, until Hermine struck Tallahassee in 2016, the state hadn't experienced a storm in a decade. We, in Tallahassee, hadn't experienced one in 31 years. We've had hundreds of thousands of new residents over the past 3 years. Many of them haven't experienced a storm...yet.

Hermine hit Tallahassee, Matthew grazed the East Coast, Irma sucker punched the Keys and slapped Central Florida. Michael nearly blew the Panhandle off the map. But there's areas of Florida that weren't touched these past 3 years. So people get complacent. Hurricanes are such damn fickle acts of nature that a developing system in the Midwest can save your bacon the last minute.

My parents didn't have an earthquake kit until after the '89 quake in San Francisco....and they spent their adult lives in the state - minus the 7 years in Florida. After my mom died, we discovered my dad's compliance with earthquake code regarding gas hot water heaters was to tie a rope around the tank and tie that to a stud.

I'm going to give my fellow citizens a little slack. Some of them haven't lived in Florida very long.
 

LAKid53

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There are years we get nothing. And 20 gallons of bottled water just taste like wet plastic after a few years.

And like I just said, we JUST drove home from WDW to Fort Lauderdale, necessarily taking us from a full tank to a quarter of a tank. My car had been sitting home with about half a tank. Yes, I do let it get below 3/4 all the time - oh the irresponsibility of it all.



ETA: most of us do start stocking up here and there over the summer. But there's a difference between "getting some extra just in case" vs. "It's definitely coming and you might be without power and/or water for two weeks." That's NOT something that happens every year. I've lived here 22 years, and it has happened twice, including Irma.

I've lived in this state over 50 years and it's happened 5 times to me.

My parents lived in CA for nearly 50 years...only one quake.
 
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John park hopper

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Having gone through Hurricane Hugo which was a Cat 4/5 I have a very healthy respect for hurricanes--5 ft of storm serge in my house, no power for weeks. When Andrew hit I was working for the National Marine Fisheries in Charleston. Our lab sent a crew down to help the NMF lab employees in Miami. Saying it looked like a bomb hit is an understatement. On the present course (may change) it brings it into south FL Cat 4 and moves north over Orlando Cat 1. If it were me and had reservations at WDW anytime next week I'd cancel just my 2 cents.
 

larryz

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FYI - if you book directly with Disney (as we do every year for BounceBack), you must be a resident of the US to purchase travel insurance.

This must be fairly new, as we didn’t qualify for insurance this year, whereas I know we did in 2017. Not sure about last year.
Must be some kind of regulatory faux pas to sell insurance across international boundaries. Fortunately, there are other companies who will insure your vacation for roughly the same price (or less) than will Disney's insurer.
 

RustySpork

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of central Florida's electricity is provided by Florida-based coal powered generation plants and some Nuclear. Both of those sources of energy are reliable and designed to withstand a hurricane.

Short term there may be some Orlando-area outages caused by overhead lines going down, but mid and long term the coal and Nuclear plants will keep right on chugging along. God bless 'em!

I actually doubt that. Many SoCal residents aren't ready at all, but they should be. Many SoCal residents are just as idiotic about earthquakes as many Floridians who act surprised when a hurricane threatens their state annually from August thru October. :rolleyes:

When the 7.2 rumbled through my house on July 5th, a day after the 6.8 (both earthquakes closed all Disneyland rides for hours), I just enjoyed the ride because I knew I was ready. See my posts on the Disneyland forum from the evening of July 5th for more info there.

Gasoline in the car is the most understandable. But the Floridian who enters the annual hurricane season and lacks the tools required to get through at least 72 hours without police or government assistance; plywood and tools, canned food, camping stove and propane, gallons of bottled water, home defense and ammo, first aid, etc., is just not ready for life in general.

I'm not sure how anyone, or any government, is supposed to nurture those types of low intelligence people through an annual natural occurrence like hurricane season in Florida. Annual hurricanes in Florida have been happening for tens of thousands of years, and will continue for tens of thousands of years into the future. How do people live there and not know that? It's literally every year from August thru October.

I just love it when clueless people like you who don't live here and haven't spent more than a minute inside the bubble here suddenly become armchair quarterbacks and think that you know it all. You folks wear your idiocy on your sleeves.

Power was out here for 12 days after Irma, but yeah 72 hours of supplies will surely suffice. Gas stations were out of fuel for weeks because trucks couldn't get here, and every shelf of stores that did have power were bare because those supplies couldn't get here either. How about staying in your own lane where you belong.
 

beertiki

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Forecast Position and wind speeds for 11am Tuesday. Windfinder, based on GFS Model. Wind about 45 mph at Disney and Airport. If this forecast holds, both will close Monday evening or earlier. Tuesday will not be fun at Disney, and you will spend almost all day stuck in your room.
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