Main Street U.S.A. hub redevelopment at the Magic Kingdom

roj2323

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Concrete needs time to set before it can have earth piled up against it. If they poured at night (which they would have to since all cement truck access is through Guest areas), they'd have to let it cure during the day.

Now that summer hours with their midnight (or later) closings are over, we'll probably see the construction pace pick up.

-Rob
while this is semi true the forms can be pulled after around 3-4 hours. I've actually pulled 4ft wall forms in as little as 2. The concrete should sit for at least 48hrs before being backfilled but to be safe 5-7 days is recommended to give the concrete time to cure especially in 10-12 inch thick walls. In the meantime the wall ties can be twisted off after 24 hours and they can start waterproofing the backside of the wall if needed.

The short version is yes the concrete needs time to cure but other things can be done while it is curing including framing up and pouring additional sections of wall or in the case of this project the arches which is exactly what they did. I don't understand why they took there sweet time back filling but i'm sure they had good reason.
 

LAKid53

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Looking at these pictures, I was thinking of the same for the Poly DVC bungalows. How long does it take to build a house in Florida? We built a custom 3000 square foot home in Miami in 4 months that survived Andrew with no problem. Once Disney had the pilings and docks built and inspected, the rest should have been quick. Not like they have to deal with homeowners changing their minds about the kitchen "no honey, I want the $12,000 Wolfe professional range in the opposite corner with the skylight but you can keep the $10,000 hood range, too, right?" I'm usually at WDW every other month and I've seen days when no work is being done on the bungalows. I'm sure it cannot be for a lack of manpower - construction workers are hurting for jobs still in Florida, And bothering the guests? Won't they be in the parks during the day, when most construction work takes place? And give those guys & gals the weekend off - they work hard (and in the Florida heat).
 

Cesar R M

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Looking at these pictures, I was thinking of the same for the Poly DVC bungalows. How long does it take to build a house in Florida? We built a custom 3000 square foot home in Miami in 4 months that survived Andrew with no problem. Once Disney had the pilings and docks built and inspected, the rest should have been quick. Not like they have to deal with homeowners changing their minds about the kitchen "no honey, I want the $12,000 Wolfe professional range in the opposite corner with the skylight but you can keep the $10,000 hood range, too, right?" I'm usually at WDW every other month and I've seen days when no work is being done on the bungalows. I'm sure it cannot be for a lack of manpower - construction workers are hurting for jobs still in Florida, And bothering the guests? Won't they be in the parks during the day, when most construction work takes place? And give those guys & gals the weekend off - they work hard (and in the Florida heat).
What if Rasulo does the opposite"?

"Ok guys, I changed my mind.. we want the cheapest concrete!"
 

LAKid53

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What if Rasulo does the opposite"?

"Ok guys, I changed my mind.. we want the cheapest concrete!"

Not sure who Rasulo is, but the construction specs and hopefully the inspectors would prevent this. And Disney should have a project manager with enough experience and frequent visits to detect such a change.
 

Cesar R M

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Not sure who Rasulo is, but the construction specs and hopefully the inspectors would prevent this. And Disney should have a project manager with enough experience and frequent visits to detect such a change.
Isnt Rasulo the top executive and faithfull follower of the "cut down everything to the minimum so my bonus gets bigger!"

I thought they already made that decision when they started replacing the reddish concrete with standard grey to match the new.
hah! good point!
 

Bolt

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And this has been going on since when?
It hasn't been the easiest project when the park closed at 3am some nights, with guests there til 4am on Main Street and having to be clear by the time the park opens for breakfast. You can't have a dump truck driving around the park moving earth and such with guests still there.
 

lazyboy97o

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Isnt Rasulo the top executive and faithfull follower of the "cut down everything to the minimum so my bonus gets bigger!"
Rasulo is the Chief Financial Officer and former Chairman of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, Tom Staggs' former and current positions. Both came from the reviled Strategic Planning Group that guided much of The Walt Disney Company when Michael Eisner was at his worst.
 

LAKid53

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Rasulo is the Chief Financial Officer and former Chairman of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, Tom Staggs' former and current positions. Both came from the reviled Strategic Planning Group that guided much of The Walt Disney Company when Michael Eisner was at his worst.

Ah, thanks for the info - I was having a problem placing the name. Explains a lot of what we've been seeing for the past decade.
 

LAKid53

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It hasn't been the easiest project when the park closed at 3am some nights, with guests there til 4am on Main Street and having to be clear by the time the park opens for breakfast. You can't have a dump truck driving around the park moving earth and such with guests still there.

Why not? Because no one will figure out there's construction going on behind that big green fence surrounding the hub? If the project is at the point where work can go on while guests are in the park, then do it. If some people get ed and leave, then let them - more room for the rest of us. As long as it isn't unsafe or doesn't inconvenience me, I don't care if they work on it during operating hours. I for one would be standing at a viewing area watching the work in great fascination. It's time we guests get our heads out of our rears and realize as a huge facility with millions of visitors each year sometimes there's going to be some upkeep going on. I'm willing to suffer a little, knowing that something great is coming,
 

Bolt

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Why not? Because no one will figure out there's construction going on behind that big green fence surrounding the hub? If the project is at the point where work can go on while guests are in the park, then do it. If some people get ed and leave, then let them - more room for the rest of us. As long as it isn't unsafe or doesn't inconvenience me, I don't care if they work on it during operating hours. I for one would be standing at a viewing area watching the work in great fascination. It's time we guests get our heads out of our rears and realize as a huge facility with millions of visitors each year sometimes there's going to be some upkeep going on. I'm willing to suffer a little, knowing that something great is coming,
Yes - every guest wants to hear constant beeping because that's all construction trucks do. And yes, nothing more of a Main Street feel than dump trucks driving down the road. No theme park would move vehicles around in front of it's guests. It's the Mine Train curse of being landlocked.
 

mergatroid

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Yes - every guest wants to hear constant beeping because that's all construction trucks do. And yes, nothing more of a Main Street feel than dump trucks driving down the road. No theme park would move vehicles around in front of it's guests. It's the Mine Train curse of being landlocked.

Universal did when building Harry Potter at IOA, I know as I was there. Had a guy stopping guests whilst diggers drove across the public walkways to get to where they needed to be. It seemed very odd at the time but I just accepted that when building some inconvenience will be caused.
 

Macca250

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Universal did when building Harry Potter at IOA, I know as I was there. Had a guy stopping guests whilst diggers drove across the public walkways to get to where they needed to be. It seemed very odd at the time but I just accepted that when building some inconvenience will be caused.
Yeah but can you imagine the chaos if they tried to drive construction vehicles down Main Street? Maybe they'll stick them in the daytime parade and hope nobody will notice.
 

pumpkin7

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Well kudos to Disney for trying to keep the magic. I suppose this hub development would annoy me if I were there now, but having to watch a dumper truck drive down MS would annoy me more.
 

lazyboy97o

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Universal did when building Harry Potter at IOA, I know as I was there. Had a guy stopping guests whilst diggers drove across the public walkways to get to where they needed to be. It seemed very odd at the time but I just accepted that when building some inconvenience will be caused.
It was also done for the near non-stop construction of Transformers: The Ride 3-D.
 

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