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Main Demographic For DCA?

DanielBB8

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I can never understand this business model, the whole point of DCA was to make Disneyland a resort and encourage longer stays like people do at WDW. If you were doing this why would you go after a completely different clientele?
Did you not realize that was done to Epcot as well? Epcot was designed for adults with few attractions designed to appeal to young kids. It worked for awhile when adults and kids had separate interests. Once upon a time, adults had separate spaces to enjoy smokes and drinks. They attend cocktail parties and socialize at dinner parties. Think "Mad Men". Disney wanted to capture this market although this culture is going away. Part of the thinking was the rides and attractions aren't the motivating factor to visit Epcot or DCA, which was incorrect. Now that they fixed the attraction and theming issues at DCA, they brought back the wildly successful food, wine, art, and garden festivals. So Disney can go after the traditional Disney audience while also giving parents and single, childless adults an opportunity to indulge in adult drinks and foodie appetizers. Eisner had the right idea, but bad execution. Then there's Trader Sam's.
DCA doesn't even know what it is anymore. Disney seemed to have a plan a few years ago but gave up on it. Now it's just a patchwork of Cars, Marvel and craptastic overlays no one wanted. At least there's booze.
DCA's theming all point to Disney. It's their park and they're making it all about Disney. They're fixing the weakest part of DCA that was Bug's Land. Soon they'll fix Hollywood Backlot. The result will be good.
 

1LE McQueen

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The 3 friends I have that say they like DCA better than Disneyland seem to only talk about the bigger rides. Specifically guardians, incredicoaster, and racers. Funny thing is that the one time we spent a whole day there they were bored out of their minds, and one of them only had a single park day ticket so we were trapped
I think it's really interesting your friends like DCA over Disneyland because of 2 re-skinned rides (and RSR, but who's complaining about that? ;)).

The other two attractions don't hold a candle, IMO, to thrill attractions like BTMRR, Space, IJA, Splash, Matterhorn, (and perhaps now in the future, RotR and Smuggler's Run.) I think DCA struggles to capture the magic of Disneyland E-tickets.

One thing is for sure, someone would have to pay me to spend a full day, open to close, in DCA.
 

socalifornian

Active Member
I think it's really interesting your friends like DCA over Disneyland because of 2 re-skinned rides (and RSR, but who's complaining about that? ;)).

The other two attractions don't hold a candle, IMO, to thrill attractions like BTMRR, Space, IJA, Splash, Matterhorn, (and perhaps now in the future, RotR and Smuggler's Run.) I think DCA struggles to capture the magic of Disneyland E-tickets.

One thing is for sure, someone would have to pay me to spend a full day, open to close, in DCA.
I don’t understand either. They don’t like Magic Mountains sea of coasters and I don’t think they really remember tower or screamin’ with how little they’ve done theme/amusement parks in the past. I’m the only one in the group that still calls them by the original names on accident. I had to backspace “tower” in my last comment
 

SuddenStorm

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I had a friend in high school who was surprised at preferred Disneyland to DCA, saying "but isn't that where all the big rides are?"

I once overheard a group of teens saying that if they had APs, they'd spend all their time at DCA.

I think there's a perception among SoCal's youth that DCA provided the thrills, while Disneyland is the "kiddie park"
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
DCA doesn't even know what it is anymore. Disney seemed to have a plan a few years ago but gave up on it. Now it's just a patchwork of Cars, Marvel and craptastic overlays no one wanted.
That's kind of silly when the "gold standard" is Disneyland. Frontierland has nothing thematically in common with Tomorrowland either, that's kind of the point.

I know DLR fanboys are particularly butthurt about Pixar Pier, but I don't see why. The pier theme is still intact, it just has Pixar added onto it. It's not like they replaced it.

Also, Cars Land is the best themed land anywhere outside of WWoHP.
 

iHeartDisneylandCats

Proud Member Since 2016
DCA is such a trainwreck right now that I wouldn't be surprised if it gets another overhaul someday. I don't think the next overhaul would be as big as 2012, but probably closer to what Hollywood Studios is going through right now. Mostly improving place making by removing the stupid overlays and adding another major land or attraction, as well as removing any leftovers from 2001.
 

Kram Sacul

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That's kind of silly when the "gold standard" is Disneyland. Frontierland has nothing thematically in common with Tomorrowland either, that's kind of the point.

I know DLR fanboys are particularly butthurt about Pixar Pier, but I don't see why. The pier theme is still intact, it just has Pixar added onto it. It's not like they replaced it.

Also, Cars Land is the best themed land anywhere outside of WWoHP.
The gold standard is Disneyland, yes. The hub, the themed lands, the attractions. When they were designing DCA they seemed to forget about all of this. It's been biting them in the *** every since.

The problem with Pixar Pier is that it fixed none of the issues of Paradise Pier and basically reverted it to DCA 1.0 level tackiness. It also turned Screamin into a joke with it's cheap glitter effects and plastic character figures.

Carsland is the best thing in DCA. I have nothing bad to say about it.
 

BrianLo

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I still think DCA is more appealing to tourists than locals. Which is probably its biggest perception problem. I easily think it consumes a full day, but I'm going year(s) between visits.

It's better than 2/4 WDW parks currently... but because it is saddled onto Disneyland, it is living under an inescapable shadow.
 

Mr. Johnson

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I know DLR fanboys are particularly butthurt about Pixar Pier, but I don't see why. The pier theme is still intact, it just has Pixar added onto it. It's not like they replaced it.
That’s the problem, they should’ve started over from scratch without the Pier theme. Having a generic midway at a Disney park was both a bad idea and the final product was bad in execution. Pixar Pier doesn’t solve most of the issues that plagued Pixar Pier (instead sidestepping the issues) and in some places is worst than Paradise Pier. (Why is the interior for the Bing Bong shop somehow worse than its predecessor that was already pretty bad?)
 

DanielBB8

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Get over it. The pier theme isn’t going away. They’re putting in Disney IP on the pier to make it more Disney. This had been done numerous times in other parks. Starting over means an entirely new theme and just about all the roller coasters and flat rides will disappear. Huh? How does this make sense? Pixar Pier is the equivalent of Toy Story Land that was added in Shanghai and Disney Hollywood Studios.
 

raven24

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Get over it. The pier theme isn’t going away. They’re putting in Disney IP on the pier to make it more Disney. This had been done numerous times in other parks. Starting over means an entirely new theme and just about all the roller coasters and flat rides will disappear. Huh? How does this make sense? Pixar Pier is the equivalent of Toy Story Land that was added in Shanghai and Disney Hollywood Studios.
But you think Pixar Pier makes sense? LOL.

No.
 

Nothsa

Well-Known Member
Will never get it either? Madd T Party was the perfect venue and was so fun and popular. It finally hit the sweet spot of trying to be a little more cool but not cheesy. And it attracted both young and old guests while one of the biggest highlights to DCA 2.0. It did last for a few years but everything after it straight sucked.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think around the time that Mad T Party was cancelled there were rumors of a Monstropolis land going in the Hollywood Backlot area that were later canned. My guess is that it had something to do with that.
 

Mr. Johnson

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Get over it. The pier theme isn’t going away.
I know, I can still critique the pier in whatever form it's in.
Starting over means an entirely new theme and just about all the roller coasters and flat rides will disappear. Huh? How does this make sense?
What sense does it make to make an entirely new theme and trashing most of the flat rides for some funny book heroes. Huh? How does this make sense?
Pixar Pier is the equivalent of Toy Story Land that was added in Shanghai and Disney Hollywood Studios.
And all four of the Toy Story Lands shouldn't exist.
 

DanielBB8

Well-Known Member
What sense does it make to make an entirely new theme and trashing most of the flat rides for some funny book heroes. Huh? How does this make sense?
Bug’s Land is redundant, but if they can remove it and replace it with something better, it would be a plus. Maybe you’ll get your wish someday.
 

1LE McQueen

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How anyone can justify Pixar Pier is beyond me. Disney character implementation is one thing, baby jack-jacks on a stick some repainting and a soundtrack change is something entirely different. Almost like a Six Flags version of a "themed" attraction / land.

I mean seriously, a chicken nugget stall straight out of Rollercoaster Tycoon?
 

TROR

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Get over it. The pier theme isn’t going away. They’re putting in Disney IP on the pier to make it more Disney. This had been done numerous times in other parks.
Yet there's nothing Disney about it.

Starting over means an entirely new theme and just about all the roller coasters and flat rides will disappear. Huh? How does this make sense? Pixar Pier is the equivalent of Toy Story Land that was added in Shanghai and Disney Hollywood Studios.
And those suck too. Your point?
 
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