Magical express problem

[Disneydreamer16]

I know we arent supposed to be doing this but we have a family of 5 staying in a room at pop century. Does anyone know if this is going to pose a problem with the magical express tickets? Any info would be helpful...thanks

 

[shoppingnut]

I don't actually see the big chunk at risk. Worst case is they ask you too leave, and in that case you get a refund on those unused hotel days... so you end up in a cheaper offsite hotel. Not the end of world now is it?

Have you been in some of those offsite hotels, yes, it could be the end of the world or at least the end of a good disney trip. Also, depending on the time of year, lots of those cheaper hotels are fully booked and they are also not so cheap when you don't have a special coupon or reserve ahead of time for the deal. And, some of the hotels that offer $30 deals then charge you another $10-15 per person, as that rate is for one person. It could very well end up costing you much more money.

 

[ChipmunkStar]

If there were an emergency than required an evacuation and you had more people in your room, there could be a problem. Not a "Oh no there's a fire... WHAT?! FIVE people in your room?! We're charging you extra!" But more along the lines of taking roll call for the families that are there. If there are undocumented people in the rooms, then they will go unnoticed if they were to somehow get locked in the room, or fall and injure themselves on the way out.

Maybe you could look into the family suites at the All Stars? That way it's not an extra room, just a bit more of an extra charge... and you can fit 6 people legally without worrying through your vacation about getting caught.

 

[felix367]

With DME, is it possible to have DME take your luggage, but not you? We'd like to rent a car at the airport, as we've heard it's much cheaper, but we'd like Disney to handle the luggage, as that seems very convenient.

If you put your DME tags on your luggage, but don't check in with the DME when you arrive, will they still take your bags to your room?

Thanks.

 

[Nemo14]

With DME, is it possible to have DME take your luggage, but not you? We'd like to rent a car at the airport, as we've heard it's much cheaper, but we'd like Disney to handle the luggage, as that seems very convenient.

If you put your DME tags on your luggage, but don't check in with the DME when you arrive, will they still take your bags to your room?

Thanks.

This question has been asked several times lately. For DME to transfer your luggage, at least one person from your party must ride the bus.

 

[Iakona]

What people are getting a disservice? And what harard are we talking about? Sure you cram an extra person in your room the odds of a fight over which TV channel to watch or who is next in the bathroom... but lets be honest here, it ain't like you cramming people into a phone booth.

I can accept the goody goody that says its wrong because its against the rules, I don't agree with them but if they want to live by other peoples rules let them have fun living that way... but trying to claim it is somehow a hazard? If the amount of space required for x number of people were any true hazard half of the apartments and hotels in New York city would be shut down.

Let's be honest, you agree to abide by their rules when you sign into the hotel.
Yes, it would very likely ruin the vacation if you are tossed out of your Disney room. This is the second thread I have noticed that as far as you are concerned the rules that you do not like do not apply to you. (ie. Pool Hopping ok to Deluxe Resort, AKL, because you want to use the amenities, but not pay the cost).

Is it likely they will get caught, no. If they do get caught will Disney kick them off the property, probably not. But they might. All that people have done is point out it is against the rules and they take a chance in doing it.

 

[wannabeBelle]

I can accept the goody goody that says its wrong because its against the rules, I don't agree with them but if they want to live by other peoples rules let them have fun living that way... but trying to claim it is somehow a hazard? If the amount of space required for x number of people were any true hazard half of the apartments and hotels in New York city would be shut down.

As far as the apartments and hotels in NYC, Yes they do get shut down for over occupancy when they are caught. In most cases it is not caught until there is a tragedy and people are hurt or killed. Belle

 

[Dwarful]

My thought on this issue is this. Ok a family of 5 with a child 2 and under can stay in a value room. But now, if every family of 5 even if they had 3 little ones..say 4,5,6..they use more towels & more water than a family of 4 (more showers, face washing, teeth brushing, toilet flushing etc). If everyone did this, those hidden costs would start adding up..meaning Disneys costs would start adding up..which gets passed on to customers...which means the values become less of a value to the honest customers putting four people in a room. Ok, so most of you are probably thinking "well, yes, but those costs are minimal Disney can eat the cost" But I think thats how it hurts other people.
I am not the morality police, I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

 

[DisneyMusician2]

I agree. I am not really big on reporting every little thing, but honesty (although cliche) really is the best in these situations. Especially in the value rooms, don't cram too many people in there. It won't be good for you, your family, or your collective sanity regardless of how old they are. Past that, its just plain wrong. Don't propogate the cycle. And we wonder why prices always are going up.

 

[DisneyMusician2]

Oh, and by the way, Pool Hopping is just another sorry thing to do. Use the facilities at YOUR hotel, NOT someone elses. If you want a better pool and use a deluxe lounge, then you need to pay for one!

 

[phichi17]

What people are getting a disservice? And what harard are we talking about? Sure you cram an extra person in your room the odds of a fight over which TV channel to watch or who is next in the bathroom... but lets be honest here, it ain't like you cramming people into a phone booth.

I can accept the goody goody that says its wrong because its against the rules, I don't agree with them but if they want to live by other peoples rules let them have fun living that way... but trying to claim it is somehow a hazard? If the amount of space required for x number of people were any true hazard half of the apartments and hotels in New York city would be shut down.

The goody goody? It is against the law to overcrowd a hotel room past its stated occupancy. You can be evicted without restitution.

As far as it being a hazard, well, it is. Consider if there were seven people in a room designed for only four. In the event of a fire in the middle of the night, evacuating extra bodies from a space that is not designed to accomodate them is dangerous. What if everyone in the hotel had your outlook and just bypassed the rules? Instead of the allowed number of people trying to evacuate through a given number of fire escapes, you could now have twice the number or more. The results would most likely be disasterous.

The rules are there for a specific reason, not to make the guests life more difficult and not for just anyone to disregard at their lesiure.

 

[phichi17]

Oh, and by the way, Pool Hopping is just another sorry thing to do. Use the facilities at YOUR hotel, NOT someone elses. If you want a better pool and use a deluxe lounge, then you need to pay for one!

Here here!!

 

[phichi17]

I agree. I am not really big on reporting every little thing, but honesty (although cliche) really is the best in these situations. Especially in the value rooms, don't cram too many people in there. It won't be good for you, your family, or your collective sanity regardless of how old they are. Past that, its just plain wrong. Don't propogate the cycle. And we wonder why prices always are going up.

Not to mention extra noisy.....those walls can be veeeerrryyy thin.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

If there were an emergency than required an evacuation and you had more people in your room, there could be a problem. Not a "Oh no there's a fire... WHAT?! FIVE people in your room?! We're charging you extra!" But more along the lines of taking roll call for the families that are there. If there are undocumented people in the rooms, then they will go unnoticed if they were to somehow get locked in the room, or fall and injure themselves on the way out.

Maybe you could look into the family suites at the All Stars? That way it's not an extra room, just a bit more of an extra charge... and you can fit 6 people legally without worrying through your vacation about getting caught.

I'm sorry but your example makes no sense. It would only make sense for them to base their looking for people or not on the assumption that everyone checked into a room as in the room. Unless we are talking about a prison, everyone checked into a hotel will not always be in the hotel. They may be at a park visiting a friend somewhere else having dinner who knows where or simply fixing a early morning urge to eat at a 24hour waffle house.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

As far as the apartments and hotels in NYC, Yes they do get shut down for over occupancy when they are caught. In most cases it is not caught until there is a tragedy and people are hurt or killed. Belle

My point wasn't about over crowded slums. I was speaking of very small hotel rooms in New York City that are perfectly legal yet give less space per person than you would get with an extra person in a value hotel.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

My thought on this issue is this. Ok a family of 5 with a child 2 and under can stay in a value room. But now, if every family of 5 even if they had 3 little ones..say 4,5,6..they use more towels & more water than a family of 4 (more showers, face washing, teeth brushing, toilet flushing etc). If everyone did this, those hidden costs would start adding up..meaning Disneys costs would start adding up..which gets passed on to customers...which means the values become less of a value to the honest customers putting four people in a room. Ok, so most of you are probably thinking "well, yes, but those costs are minimal Disney can eat the cost" But I think thats how it hurts other people.
I am not the morality police, I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

I might agree if Disney gave me a discount when I checked in with only 3 people instead of 4 but the last time I checked they charged the same for 1 person in a room as for 4. So a group that stuff 5 in a room every once in a while is really just equalling out the costs of the rooms where only 3 people are staying.

 

[Nemo14]

I might agree if Disney gave me a discount when I checked in with only 3 people instead of 4 but the last time I checked they charged the same for 1 person in a room as for 4. So a group that stuff 5 in a room every once in a while is really just equalling out the costs of the rooms where only 3 people are staying.

I think the bottom line here is that it is just plain wrong. You may justify it in your own mind, but at the end of the day, you're still wrong.

 

[phichi17]

So a group that stuff 5 in a room every once in a while is really just equalling out the costs of the rooms where only 3 people are staying.

What if everyone that went to Disney had the same outlook? I would suspect that the conditions at the resorts would be horrendous. Overcrowded pools, food courts jammed beyond their capacity, housekeeping unable to keep up with demand for linens and towels, buses unable to keep up with demand etc.
There are specific reasons behind every law, rule and regulation. Those laws, rules and regulations are not open for negotiation.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

The goody goody? It is against the law to overcrowd a hotel room past its stated occupancy. You can be evicted without restitution.

As far as it being a hazard, well, it is. Consider if there were seven people in a room designed for only four. In the event of a fire in the middle of the night, evacuating extra bodies from a space that is not designed to accomodate them is dangerous. What if everyone in the hotel had your outlook and just bypassed the rules? Instead of the allowed number of people trying to evacuate through a given number of fire escapes, you could now have twice the number or more. The results would most likely be disasterous.

The rules are there for a specific reason, not to make the guests life more difficult and not for just anyone to disregard at their lesiure.

Get real, what fire escapes are there in a value that would be taxed by 5 people in a room. You might have a valid point if we were talking about highrises but these aren't highrises. They stairs are all exterior and could safely be used to evacuate 6 people in every room.

Everyone seems to be missing the point of the original post. Someone asked about getting 5 people on the DME. Well no they can't do that. Then everyone wants to start playing ethics police. Well, unless you Jesus I don't see how anyone has a right to start preaching being perfect and following every rule. Can you people not accept that some people follow all the rules some people don't. Unless those people that aren't following the rules are causing you direct harm, back off. If people sneak into a buffet and eat food such that you can't get what you paid for, then by all means get upset and angry. But if someone is just putting another person in their room who are you to care. Maybe the folks taking the trip can't afford the extra charge. Maybe the extra cost would keep them from going. So please lets be little goody goodies and rain on their parade.

Lighten up people. They aren't clubbing baby seals here.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

I think the bottom line here is that it is just plain wrong. You may justify it in your own mind, but at the end of the day, you're still wrong.

In your mind it is wrong. I accept that. But my comment about 5 people in some room and 3 in other equalling out is quite correct. Most people don't cram 5 people in a room and alot of people don't have 4 people in a room they have less, often only 2. So deal with reality and not your fantasy world please.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

What if everyone that went to Disney had the same outlook? I would suspect that the conditions at the resorts would be horrendous. Overcrowded pools, food courts jammed beyond their capacity, housekeeping unable to keep up with demand for linens and towels, buses unable to keep up with demand etc.
There are specific reasons behind every law, rule and regulation. Those laws, rules and regulations are not open for negotiation.

Its a shame America wasn't filled with people like you in the 1700's. We would still be bowing down to Britain.