Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters

[Stevek]

I never understood why PP's boardwalk doesn't have a classic bumper car attraction. They would make perfect sense there.

Expand the area where the Maliboomer was, would be a great spot for it. Unfortunately, people would be all over it as it would be one more "carnival" ride which is what people were pretty unhappy about from the beginning with DCA.

 

[Phroobar]

It would be better than another dumbo spinner there.

 

[TP2000]

So good old Andy over at Micechat was underwhelmed...and in other news, the Earth is round.

After waiting a day, I'm going to go ahead and broach this subject.

When a grown adult man visits a theme park alone on a weekly basis, he's probably not going to be the best person to use as a sounding board for what spinner rides are "fun".

Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters is not designed to entertain middle aged bachelors. I would put no more value in Mr. Castro's review of Rollickin' Roadsters than I would his review of Princess Fantasy Faire or Gadget's Go Coaster; he's just not the demographic those things are aiming to please.

Mr. Castro does a fine job with his weekly photographs, and I have always enjoyed them. But his commentary and critiques of new park offerings are almost always way off base, or grounded in the fact that he is a middle aged man experiencing these park locations alone.

I get to say this because I am more than a middle aged man who often goes to the park alone to stroll and observe and take in a ride or two. But when I do that I don't go on the Teacups alone and then write up a review about how everyone else but me seemed to be shrieking and laughing and having fun. I save my rides on the Teacups for when I have young grand-nieces and grand-nephews in town and have someone fun to ride with.

I will wait to ride Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters until my young relatives arrive for spring break, and I imagine they'll have fun on this one. It certainly looks dramatically better and more lively than the Flying Tires ever did.

Mr. Castro should let his nice photographs speak for themselves, and leave the theme park reviews to people who know how to have fun.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Based on recent additions to DCA, I have very high expectations. Cars Land, Buena Vista Street, Grizzly Peak area (Soarin')...so what have they done recently that's so bad?

Almost everything before and after that. Honestly, Cars Land and Buena Vista Street are like flukes in the grand scheme of the park. They only turned out as well as they did because they were the centerpieces of the 800 kajilion dollar makeover of the park.

 

[GetAPaperBag]

After waiting a day, I'm going to go ahead and broach this subject.

When a grown adult man visits a theme park alone on a weekly basis, he's probably not going to be the best person to use as a sounding board for what spinner rides are "fun".

Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters is not designed to entertain middle aged bachelors. I would put no more value in Mr. Castro's review of Rollickin' Roadsters than I would his review of Princess Fantasy Faire or Gadget's Go Coaster; he's just not the demographic those things are aiming to please.

Mr. Castro does a fine job with his weekly photographs, and I have always enjoyed them. But his commentary and critiques of new park offerings are almost always way off base, or grounded in the fact that he is a middle aged man experiencing these park locations alone.

I get to say this because I am more than a middle aged man who often goes to the park alone to stroll and observe and take in a ride or two. But when I do that I don't go on the Teacups alone and then write up a review about how everyone else but me seemed to be shrieking and laughing and having fun. I save my rides on the Teacups for when I have young grand-nieces and grand-nephews in town and have someone fun to ride with.

I will wait to ride Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters until my young relatives arrive for spring break, and I imagine they'll have fun on this one. It certainly looks dramatically better and more lively than the Flying Tires ever did.

Mr. Castro should let his nice photographs speak for themselves, and leave the theme park reviews to people who know how to have fun.

Thank you!! This can go for a lot of the Frozen haters too.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Mr. Castro should let his nice photographs speak for themselves, and leave the theme park reviews to people who know how to have fun.

Bravo TP! You've succinctly outlined one of the biggest problems with the online Disneyland fan community. It's dominated by opinionated males who think they know all there is to know about what the Disneyland Resort experience is supposed to be, yet most of them can't recall when they last visited the parks in the way they were designed to be enjoyed - in a family group.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Bravo TP! You've succinctly outlined one of the biggest problems with the online Disneyland fan community. It's dominated by opinionated males who think they know all there is to know about what the Disneyland Resort experience is supposed to be, yet most of them can't recall when they last visited the parks in the way they were designed to be enjoyed - in a family group.

After waiting a day, I'm going to go ahead and broach this subject.

When a grown adult man visits a theme park alone on a weekly basis, he's probably not going to be the best person to use as a sounding board for what spinner rides are "fun".

Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters is not designed to entertain middle aged bachelors. I would put no more value in Mr. Castro's review of Rollickin' Roadsters than I would his review of Princess Fantasy Faire or Gadget's Go Coaster; he's just not the demographic those things are aiming to please.

Mr. Castro does a fine job with his weekly photographs, and I have always enjoyed them. But his commentary and critiques of new park offerings are almost always way off base, or grounded in the fact that he is a middle aged man experiencing these park locations alone.

I get to say this because I am more than a middle aged man who often goes to the park alone to stroll and observe and take in a ride or two. But when I do that I don't go on the Teacups alone and then write up a review about how everyone else but me seemed to be shrieking and laughing and having fun. I save my rides on the Teacups for when I have young grand-nieces and grand-nephews in town and have someone fun to ride with.

I will wait to ride Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters until my young relatives arrive for spring break, and I imagine they'll have fun on this one. It certainly looks dramatically better and more lively than the Flying Tires ever did.

Mr. Castro should let his nice photographs speak for themselves, and leave the theme park reviews to people who know how to have fun.

These quotes assume a lot about Mr. Castro (and fans at large, but I digress). He's not middle aged (or a bachelor) and he often visits the parks with friends and family (including children). His critique of Luigi's is based on how enjoyable other Disney flat rides are, including Mater's, and that Luigi's falls short regardless of demographic. I'm inclined to agree with him, as the ride is criminally underwhelming, even for children.

Of course, rides should also never be aimed at just children and Fantasyland flat rides (as well as Mater's) are not; they all succeed. Luigi's is a technological marvel with no pay-off for the rider, alongside no transporting or interesting qualities. Luigi's is far more fun to watch than it is to ride, and that's a problem. While I'd say it's an improvement over the tires, that's not saying much.

Mr. Castro also enjoys and rates many experiences positively at all of the parks he covers, it just seems to be that people only pick up on his negative reviews - and as a blogger, he's of course permitted to post his reviews and have opinions. He's recently been down on Luigi's, Launch Bay and Super Hero HQ, all of which are subpar. Disney does not bat 1000.

 

[TP2000]

These quotes assume a lot about Mr. Castro (and fans at large, but I digress). He's not middle aged (or a bachelor) and he often visits the parks with friends and family (including children). His critique of Luigi's is based on how enjoyable other Disney flat rides are, including Mater's, and that Luigi's falls short regardless of demographic.

Fair enough, but if he's visiting the parks with children he's never once mentioned that. His recent review of Luigi's was noticeably from his own opinion as an adult man.

An excerpt from that generally sour review...
"Despite Disney’s hyperbole about the new ride being “jaw-dropping,” Luigi’s Rollickin’ Roadsters are nothing worth going out of your way to experience and is likely only worth a 10-15 minute wait, max. Of course, the ride isn’t meant to be a big E-Ticket ride, but even new C-Tickets can (and should) be good. Is Luigi’s Rollickin’ Roadsters better than the Flying Tires? Yes, but that wasn’t exactly a high bar. With such great ride technology at work, it’s a shame that our introduction to it here in the United States is with this attraction — what a waste." -Andy Castro, Micechat

I would agree that no 90 second C Ticket is worth more than a 15 minute wait; the Teacups, Dumbo, King Arthur's Carousel, Rocket Jets, Golden Zephyr, etc., etc.

C Tickets never have been worth more than a 15 minute wait, which is why they were only branded a C Ticket.

The other fascinating thing is that Andy Castro's own photos of Luigi's that he posted with his review showed families with children smiling and laughing and enjoying themselves. It doesn't look like a North Korean gulag to me.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Fair enough, but if he's visiting the parks with children he's never once mentioned that. His recent review of Luigi's was noticeably from his own opinion as an adult man.

An excerpt from that generally sour review...
"Despite Disney’s hyperbole about the new ride being “jaw-dropping,” Luigi’s Rollickin’ Roadsters are nothing worth going out of your way to experience and is likely only worth a 10-15 minute wait, max. Of course, the ride isn’t meant to be a big E-Ticket ride, but even new C-Tickets can (and should) be good. Is Luigi’s Rollickin’ Roadsters better than the Flying Tires? Yes, but that wasn’t exactly a high bar. With such great ride technology at work, it’s a shame that our introduction to it here in the United States is with this attraction — what a waste." -Andy Castro, Micechat

I would agree that no 90 second C Ticket is worth more than a 15 minute wait; the Teacups, Dumbo, King Arthur's Carousel, Rocket Jets, Golden Zephyr, etc., etc.

C Tickets never have been worth more than a 15 minute wait, which is why they were only branded a C Ticket.

The other fascinating thing is that Andy Castro's own photos of Luigi's that he posted with his review showed families with children smiling and laughing and enjoying themselves. It doesn't look like a North Korean gulag to me.

There's no reason for him to mention whether or not he visits the park with anyone else. I personally accompanied some kids this weekend on the ride and they didn't like it. Even if they had liked it, that wouldn't change my opinion. Kids like all kinds of horrible crap. Kids loved that Club Buzz show they used to do in Tomorrowland, and that show was objectively awful. The whole things-aimed-just-at-kids thing was the reason why Walt created Disneyland in the first place.

I think you're over-dramatizing his review, as he never compares it to a gulag. At 5pm on a Tuesday (right now) it's got a 30 minute wait posted. Over the weekend it reached 120 minutes. That's obviously due to newness, and over time it will drop down to a wait befitting its stature, a la Mater's, but his warning about the wait time is a good. I wouldn't do anything but walk-on this clunker again, personally.

Andy's issue is with Disney saying the ride is "a jaw-dropping breakthrough" - it's not. It's a poor application of amazing technology. He, like many others (myself and others with children included), don't believe it even succeeds even as a C-ticket. Obviously some people will love it, but some people love everything. Even the truly dreadful carnival-level Heimlich's Chew Chew Train has fans.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Can you at least admit that his critiques are slightly over the top sometimes? The application of the tech is misapplied here, but he could have easily had said that the ride is this generation's Dumbo and I would have had the same reaction.

 

[Curious Constance]

There's no reason for him to mention whether or not he visits the park with anyone else. I personally accompanied some kids this weekend on the ride and they didn't like it. Even if they had liked it, that wouldn't change my opinion. Kids like all kinds of horrible crap. Kids loved that Club Buzz show they used to do in Tomorrowland, and that show was objectively awful. The whole things-aimed-just-at-kids thing was the reason why Walt created Disneyland in the first place.

I think you're over-dramatizing his review, as he never compares it to a gulag. At 5pm on a Tuesday (right now) it's got a 30 minute wait posted. Over the weekend it reached 120 minutes. That's obviously due to newness, and over time it will drop down to a wait befitting its stature, a la Mater's, but his warning about the wait time is a good. I wouldn't do anything but walk-on this clunker again, personally.

Andy's issue is with Disney saying the ride is "a jaw-dropping breakthrough" - it's not. It's a poor application of amazing technology. He, like many others (myself and others with children included), don't believe it even succeeds even as a C-ticket. Obviously some people will love it, but some people love everything. Even the truly dreadful carnival-level Heimlich's Chew Chew Train has fans.

Businesses always over hype things. It's not like they are going to say this is a mediocre medium for this amazing technology.

 

[monkey92514]

After finally riding this morning, my current conclusion is....

It's cute. Might not go out of my way to hit it every visit, but I'll take it.

 

[TP2000]

After finally riding this morning, my current conclusion is....

It's cute. Might not go out of my way to hit it every visit, but I'll take it.

That's about what I'm thinking. I haven't ridden it yet, but have watched it go through its dancing thing. It's very cute, and aesthetically a big improvement over the plodding grey tires it replaced. Rollickin' Roadsters looks like a fun 90 second spinner ride, and a rather unique one with that magic trackless tech.

Not sure what some folks were expecting with this ride other than that.

 

[Phroobar]

I'm sure we will ride it the same number of times we do with Mater. It all depends on the boy and what he wants to do.

 

[captainmoch]

I think it's good on its own, but would be so much better if it wasn't the 999th spinner/flat ride in the park. That's why I think they should get rid of Bug's Land now, and replace it with literally anything but more flat rides. DCA is great, but could really use some balance in attractions.

 

[Curious Constance]

I think it's good on its own, but would be so much better if it wasn't the 999th spinner/flat ride in the park. That's why I think they should get rid of Bug's Land now, and replace it with literally anything but more flat rides. DCA is great, but could really use some balance in attractions.

Yes, yes, and yes.

Please get rid of Bugs Land. Put more family attractions, dark rides, anything but Bugs Land.

 

[Phroobar]

Yes, yes, and yes.

Please get rid of Bugs Land. Put more family attractions, dark rides, anything but Bugs Land.

Agreed, as long as it is not a totterer playground. I'm looking at you Goofy's bounce house.

 

[mickEblu]

Yes, yes, and yes.

Please get rid of Bugs Land. Put more family attractions, dark rides, anything but Bugs Land.

I agree... As much as I like the the theming of the land. One family style dark ride there would do wonders for the park. And by family style I mean a real big 10 minute + ride time ,people eating attraction. The biggest loss for me would be the it's tough to be a bug theatre.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

The biggest loss for me would be the it's tough to be a bug theatre.

If it's any consolation the theater has been there since opening day and was originally a feature of Bountiful Valley Farm. Bugs Land came a year later after Disney received feedback that the park was "too adult" and lacked enough things for young kids to do. If and when Bugs Land goes off to Yesterland I could see the theater possibly being spared.

 

[captainmoch]

I can't see the theater lasting if Bug's Land goes, unfortunately. It's Tough to be a Bug is a clever show and all, but Disney considers it so essential that they place movie previews in there half the time. I can't see them going out of their way to preserve that attraction.