Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[networkpro]

You may be right. I just don't think most cinema-goers (however they lean ideologically) allow politics to affect their choices to such an extent.

I only see Tom Cruise movies when his character is killed. Needless to say, I love watching The Edge of Tomorrow

 

[Andrew C]

I was in a cruise ship cocktail lounge yesterday evening

I stopped reading here, wondering why in the heck we were not invited.

 

[LittleBuford]

One thing I'm curious about is the role of the love interest.

 

[TP2000]

There is nothing pandering or political at all about the Snow White trailer. All of the political controversies surrounding the new Snow White movie are due to circumstances surrounding the cast and creatives. All of the discourse the past few years about the movie have revolved around:

1. Peter Dinklage saying the dwarfs in the original movie are offensive and Disney changing the dwarves. This sparked a backlash from many feeling this is an example of political correctness run wild and backlash among real life dwarf actors who are upset that they now don't have a chance to act in these roles since Disney opted to create CGI abominations instead.

2. Anti-Israel/anti-zionists and progressives not wanting to support the film from Gal Gadot, who is from Israel and was in the IDF, as they feel it would be an endorsement of the attacks on Gaza.

3. Pro-Israel people not wanting to support Rachel Zegler for her support of Palestine

4. Fans upset that Zegler initially seemed somewhat criticial/dismissive of the original 1937 classic (I think her comments were blown way out of proportion)

5. Conservatives mad that Zegler wished all Trump supporters never know peace

6. Disney fans and film fans growing increasingly sick of the trend of live action remakes, feeling they are creatively bankrupt and a lazy cash grab.

Agreed. Great summary!

I don't see how the movie could possibly overcome so much pre-release negativity from so many different sides. Even if it were a masterpiece (unlikely), millions of people are dead set on hating it no matter what due to external factors.

Me either. Again, I was told of this latest Zegler Zinger in a cocktail lounge last night, by a random group of friends who aren't typical hardcore Disney fans. A few of them might have taken their grandkids or relatives to this movie, but not now.

Disney has a new problem on its hands with this movie, all over again. The one thread of continuity in the past several years of problems for this one movie seems to be.... Rachel Zegler. I can't imagine Disney will seek out a future project with her once Snow White is finally, mercifully, put into the history books and sent to the $5 DVD bin at WalMart.

 

[Disstevefan1]

It's written in much the same manner as the original offending posts. Can you point to any lexical, grammatical, or stylistic differences?

We Rachel did do the COMMAND-C, COMMAND-V or if for some unknown reason she is on Windows CTRL-C, CTRL-V , so that counts, right?

Hmmm, maybe her agent did the copy paste for her?

 

[Disstevefan1]

It's written in much the same manner as the original offending posts. Can you point to any lexical, grammatical, or stylistic differences?

What we need is the scientific experts to examine this.

 

[Andrew C]

We Rachel did do the COMMAND-C, COMMAND-V or if for some unknown reason she is on Windows CTRL-C, CTRL-V , so that counts, right?

Hmmm, maybe her agent did the copy paste for her?

She should have control-alt-deleted her social media accounts long ago.

 

[Trauma]

Goodness! She's no more a Disney representative than any other actor who has worked for the company. Those actors include some pretty awful individuals. Would you like Disney to issue statements condemning them all?

Ok explain this to me like I’m 5.

Either the stars represent the company or they don’t.

If they don’t why was Gina fired?

I’m they do why is Rachel still employed?

 

[TP2000]

I stopped reading here, wondering why in the heck we were not invited.

So sorry, but if you can book a Viking cruise, I can be found in the Torshavn Lounge (deck 2) every night around 9:30pm.

Seriously, I almost fell off my barstool last night when I was handed a phone to read Miss Zegler's original and hate-filled Tweet. You couldn't make this up if you tried!

 

[TP2000]

She's no more a Disney representative than any other actor who has worked for the company. Those actors include some pretty awful individuals. Would you like Disney to issue statements condemning them all?

Some of us would just like Hollywood to stop being so full of pretty awful individuals. Especially if they're going to lecture everyone else on how to be Official Good People like them.

Or, at the very least, Hollywood bosses should force all those pretty awful individuals to hide it better from their customers.

 

[Chi84]

Ok explain this to me like I’m 5.

Either the stars represent the company or they don’t.

If they don’t why was Gina fired?

I’m they do why is Rachel still employed?

Why can’t you do what you said and stop posting this stuff?

 

[Trauma]

Why can’t you do what you said and stop posting this stuff?

This is not a political question.


You just don’t like the answer.

 

[Chi84]

This is not a political question.


You just don’t like the answer.

The answer is that Disney doesn’t have to be consistent in dealing with its employees. It can pick and choose which people to fire based on whether or not it likes what they said.

There is a California law that grants additional protection to employees in that State, so Gina’s case is in court to find out whether that law applies/was violated in her case.

 

[Trauma]

Even if they don’t represent the company, their association with it can become a liability.

Many actors employed by Disney have issued incendiary statements and seemingly got away with it, including Carano, but clearly there’s a limit in Disney’s eyes. I’ve already explained—multiple times—why Carano’s Holocaust comparison may have crossed a line, noting that her previous controversial tweets didn’t get her fired, but no-one seems willing to engage with these pesky details.

I’m willing to engage. Did you read Rachel’s comments?

You really think that’s ok ?

Is it ok that people here just want to go back to discussing a film that’s lead actress just denigrated half the country?

 

[Chi84]

Nope. I already said she was wrong to write such things.

Everyone agrees, including Zegler, who apologized for the comments.

There’s nothing more to be gained from beating this dead horse.

Disney is under no obligation whatsoever to treat Zegler the same as any other employee. It can find that one person’s comments were a fireable offense while another’s were not.

 

[Trauma]

Nope. I already said she was wrong to write such things.

Ok so now that we have one thing we can agree on, does Disney not have a history of condemning statements of their actors that they consider problematic?

For example: “Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable.”


How long until we get a statement from Disney on Rachel’s comments ?

 

[Chi84]

Ok so now that we have one thing we can agree on, does Disney not have a history of condemning statements of their actors that they consider problematic?

For example: “Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable.”


How long until we get a statement from Disney on Rachel’s comments ?

I imagine it will happen if she starts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities.

Commenting on such identities is generally treated differently from commenting on a person’s political views.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Wow,...just read Zegler's apology. Good job Rachel!

Alright, thank goodness that mess is over with. I'm glad the runway is now clear for takeoff.

It's good for Burbank to get those petty, little, pesky PR things out of the way.

The movie should be good to go now.

I'm sure through self-reflection, she had a legitimate change of heart and issued her apology sincerely and completely on her own volition. Certainly, neither Disney's PR department nor her publicist influenced her in any shape or form. Just like she whole-heartedly changed her opinion on the original Snow White film in that completely unscripted, candid and spontaneous discussion she had with Halle Bailey. Disney certainly wasn't in damage control mode with that absolutely authentic, not-at-all pre-vetted conversation.

 

[Chi84]

I'm sure through self-reflection, she had a legitimate change of heart and issued her apology sincerely and completely on her own volition. Certainly, neither Disney's PR department nor her publicist influenced her in any shape or form. Just like she whole-heartedly changed her opinion on the original Snow White film in that completely unscripted, candid and spontaneous discussion she had with Halle Bailey. Disney certainly wasn't in damage control mode with that absolutely authentic, not-at-all pre-vetted conversation.

I agree.

 

[TP2000]

Do you think that the Hollywood of old was populated by angels?

No, it wasn't. Which is why I said this in the next sentence. Hollywood should force its talent who are pretty awful individuals to go back to this PR concept...

Or, at the very least, Hollywood bosses should force all those pretty awful individuals to hide it better from their customers.

But even if all of Hollywood's awful people all go back in the closet and hide it again like they did decades ago, they still don't get to lecture Americans about how bad they are for not thinking like Hollywood stars. Be quiet, don't lecture the customers, hide your awful tendencies and/or criminal behavior, and just do your little act or sing a song for our ticket money. Done deal!

Some people here would benefit from simply ignoring Zegler.

We try, but she keeps Tweeting her thoughts and opinions.

I can only imagine the sigh or relief in Burbank once this Snow White movie gets released and memory holed fast. I can also only imagine the bar tab poor Miss Zegler's agent has had to rack up in the past few years. The poor dear.