Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

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BrianLo

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AdventureHasAName said:
You think that video was boundry pushing?
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I'm calling out the inconsistency about what is child appropriate. Nothing Disney has released in the last few years pales as sexualized content that wasn't already pushed further in the parks. I watched the Making of Me when I had just turned six, my three and a half year old sibling likely took nothing away from it. I turned into a competent, functional adult.

Heteronormative relationships are allowed to be put on a pedestal, for some reason. I know the reason is entrained bias that most Western nations still broadly hold. The exposure to two cartoon characters kissing was pushing no boundaries, regardless of their genders. Particularly when parents basically teach their toddlers about gender and relationships all across North America without thinking anything of it. The presence of a predominantly black cast is hardly boundary pushing in Marvel Movie #20, but yet apparently it was.

Representation is important to reduce bias amongst future generations and increase empathy, understanding and support for people and minorities kids may be underexposed to in their early childhood years. Disney was and is an important bastion for that. They are also way more aware and keep things age appropriate than people are willing to recognize; and if they don't it comes down to unspoken bias, likely driven by their own under-exposure to minorities in their own early childhood years.
 
donaldtoo

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Chi84 said:
Just to clarify, does anyone think this information is wrong for children?
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I, personally, do not.
When we lived in No Cal back in the early 70’s, sex education started for me in the 4th grade. It was called “Family Life Education”, and was definitely more involved than that short film.
My parents didn’t have a problem with it and signed off on it. Pretty sure they thought that if there were questions at some point afterwards, they’d just try and fill in the blanks…!!!!! :hilarious:
Our 3 (now grown) children had similar in school here in Texas, 2+ decades ago.
 
AdventureHasAName

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BrianLo said:
I'm calling out the inconsistency about what is child appropriate. Nothing Disney has released in the last few years pales as sexualized content that wasn't already pushed further in the parks. I watched the Making of Me when I had just turned six, my three and a half year old sibling likely took nothing away from it. I turned into a competent, functional adult.

Heteronormative relationships are allowed to be put on a pedestal, for some reason. I know the reason is entrained bias that most Western nations still broadly hold. The exposure to two cartoon characters kissing was pushing no boundaries, regardless of their genders. Particularly when parents basically teach their toddlers about gender and relationships all across North America without thinking anything of it. The presence of a predominantly black cast is hardly boundary pushing in Marvel Movie #20, but yet apparently it was.

Representation is important to reduce bias amongst future generations and increase empathy, understanding and support for people and minorities kids may be underexposed to in their early childhood years. Disney was and is an important bastion for that. They are also way more aware and keep things age appropriate than people are willing to recognize; and if they don't it comes down to unspoken bias, likely driven by their own under-exposure to minorities in their own early childhood years.
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I have thoughts, but I can't speak them without getting 50 comments deleted from the thread (including my own).
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

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Phroobar said:
Depends on what is kissed.
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Chi84

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Andrew C said:
You mean the kiss without consent?
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Isn’t that silly? It’s a fairytale, although the coffin is a bit macabre.

I imagine there will be more than a few changes, including omitting the extended bathtub scene with the dwarfs lol.
 
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Chi84 said:
Oh wow. I looked up Gutfield and he doesn’t have a very high opinion of Disney fans.
He said the only people who like Disney are babies and they’re stupid. And then followed it up with saying there’s something wrong with adults who like Disney.

I don’t agree with him lol.
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I don’t put much thought in Gutfeld’s opinions….IMO….he is one of the most unfunny ”comedians” I have ever heard
 
Chi84

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DKampy said:
I don’t put much thought in Gutfeld’s opinions….IMO….he is one of the most unfunny ”comedians” I have ever heard
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I’m not a fan of political comedians with one exception and that’s only because of the research staff and entire production.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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Chi84 said:
I’m not a fan of political comedians with one exception and that’s only because of the research staff and entire production.
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I wonder if political comedy is another casualty of turning into a grumpy old man? 20 years ago I loved the Daily Show with John Stewart, now I find it unwatchable, ironically I used to loathe Bill Maher and now find him enjoyable. I think I just relate to his grumpier side now, and I like that he dishes on both sides.

Lately I’ve been watching a lot of Jillian Michael’s on YouTube, I love that she has dissenting opinions on and looks for common ground, while still passionately arguing her point of view.

I think most mainstream media has lost that 2 sided dialog in favor of catering to one side.
 
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