LittleBuford
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Very astute. Thank you for putting things in perspective.
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Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’
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Disney Irish
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Many here, including yourself, seem to continue to misunderstand how actors are employed by studios in the modern era. All SAG-AFTRA actors are contracted for a specific role (usually on a pay-or-play contract), not on-going employment. Its very rare for a multi-picture deal or even a "studio actor" (which no longer happens) where they working for one studio their entire career. That golden age of Hollywood stopped many decades ago. So once the actor is finished with production of whatever they are working on, outside of some appearances for promotion, they are no longer employed by the studio. This is both to the benefit of the studio and the actor, as the actor is not tied to a long term deal and free to do other things with other studios, and a studio is free to either cast them in new roles, ie a new contract, or cut ties with them and not hire them for future projects. I know this is baffling to many, but this is how Hollywood has worked for many decades as mentioned.
So actors are NOT the same as the Jungle Cruise Skipper, who works under an on-going employment contract.
If Disney was to do anything with Zegler for this incident as a consequence, it would just be to ask her to no longer promote the film and maybe put her on a list of non-castable actors for future roles. But there is no "firing" her as she is not actually employed by Disney right now. And there is no indication that Disney is even doing any of that anyways. For now all we know is that Zegler apologized publicly, maybe at the insistence of Disney, and that is it. We'll see if she is still used to promote the film come January, February, and March.
There are many examples of actors who have done dumb stuff over the decades. Many of them go on to continue to have long careers as there is usually a short term memory to this stuff. So I suspect that this too will pass and she will continue to have a career no matter how people feel about it, whether it will be with Disney in the future only time will tell.
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No, Mom didn't zap it....I did. ;-)
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She will be back before you know it.
LittleBuford
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I hope her absence isn’t due to anything serious.
To quote Chicago "Everybody needs a little time away"
Chi84
Premium Member
She may be sick of us.
LittleBuford
Well-Known Member
I wouldn’t blame her. I’m sick of us, myself most of all!
Here is an idea: Since "Mom" is not here right now and there is nobody to police or cancel our speech. Maybe we should ALL internally reflect on everything we said,....and police OURSELVES???
Maybe we could all go back and self-delete things that we "know" Mom would zap if she saw it?
I dunno,...does anybody feel guilty of anything they said? It would be nice to see people do the right thing and censor themselves and maybe make Mom proud when she comes back?
I canceled my own sarcastic post. Maybe others can do the same?
Or maybe this is just another stupid idea of mine? ;-)
Maybe we could all go back and self-delete things that we "know" Mom would zap if she saw it?
I dunno,...does anybody feel guilty of anything they said? It would be nice to see people do the right thing and censor themselves and maybe make Mom proud when she comes back?
I canceled my own sarcastic post. Maybe others can do the same?
Or maybe this is just another stupid idea of mine? ;-)
Chi84
Premium Member
We’re all good. Delete your own posts as you see fit.
TP2000
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I suspect you are probably right. But that still makes me sad.
Disney should have the same standards for all of its employees, whether its a $20 an hour Jungle Cruise Skipper or a sparkling new young actress on a $2 Million contract for Snow White.
If anything, the Disney employee that is paid $2 Million for six months of work should be held to a higher standard than the $20 an hour ride operator at Disneyland, not the other way around. And yet, that's apparently not the way Disney works.
As Miss Zegler would say.... That's Hollywood, baby!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Once again you are using the term "employee" here very broadly, and incorrectly. She WAS an employee while filming the movie, or more specifically she was basically a contractor. She is NO LONGER an employee now that filming has wrapped. Outside of promotion for the film she has no obligation to Disney, and Disney has no obligation to her and can use her or not use her as they see fit to promote the film.I suspect you are probably right. But that still makes me sad.
Disney should have the same standards for all of its employees, whether its a $20 an hour Jungle Cruise Skipper or a sparkling new young actress on a $2 Million contract for Snow White.
If anything, the Disney employee that is paid $2 Million for six months of work should be held to a higher standard than the $20 an hour ride operator at Disneyland, not the other way around. And yet, that's apparently not the way Disney works.
As Miss Zegler would say.... That's Hollywood, baby!
This would be no different if you hired someone to work on your house, they completed the work and you paid them, but then you found out they said something later after that work was completed that you didn't like. Outside of maybe making it known you don't agree with them there is very little that you can do. You can't fire them because they don't work for you anymore.
In regards to a standard of conduct, while filming for Disney they are held to a standard, in most cases the same standard as that Jungle Cruise Skipper that you are so fond of using as an example. You notice we didn't really hear anything from any of the actors of the movie while principal filming was taking place. It was only after principal filming wrapped that we heard anything from them. Those are those standards you are looking for, while employed there wasn't so much as a peep. What you're expecting is that those standards extend beyond their employment, and that just isn't the case. They are not beholden to Disney for lifetime.
As has been the case going on all the way back to the Golden Age of Hollywood, actors are given a certain amount of leeway regarding their lives outside of the projects they are working on. I mean we've had actors and actress that got into all sorts of scandals for now over a 100 years. This is hardly the worst we've seen. The only reason any of us here are even talking about it is because its in relation to Disney and one of their movies. If this was any other actor no one here would even care or bat an eye of it. Which shows you that in the end none of this really matters in the larger scheme of things. Actors, and any other public figure for that matter, are just like any of us, same flaws and all.
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Tony the Tigger
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This is full-on politics now. Way over the line.
You also seem to have trouble understanding the difference between subjective and objective.
Agreed, it's absolutely terrible and my anxiety is through the roof. It's all highly triggering to say the least.
I don't know how much more of these endless, un-censored opinions I can take.
I feel like I have no protection anymore. Uggg.....
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I'm sure she is fine, her last posts were about taking a trip with her husband. So I suspect she'll be back and then take an action needed on this or any other thread.
Disgruntled Walt
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JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Megyn telling it like it is!
I saw this same post, and thought yup.