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'Lightyear' Coming Summer 2022
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ElvisMickey
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Funny how all of the Lightyear apologists after the first weekend have dropped off the face of the earth from this thread…
TrainsOfDisney
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You noticed that too?
TP2000
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Lightyear didn't get legs. If anything, it's getting them amputated for Weekend #2. The weekend is only half over, but the box office is already partially in and the trends are clear. Lightyear is dropping down to fifth place this weekend. And the Minions arrive in a few days.
From the latest article at The Hollywood Reporter this afternoon...
"One bummer is Disney and Pixar’s Lightyear, which is falling steeply in its second outing after opening to a subdued $51 million a week ago. The animated family film looks to be down 64 percent or more with a weekend gross of $18 million to $20 million, an unprecedented decline for a Pixar movie (that doesn’t include Onward, which opened just as theaters began closing because of the pandemic)."
We will update the thread by Sunday evening, obviously, but it's safe to say Lightyear is dead and will have cost the Walt Disney Company around $400 Million using your figure of a breakeven point of $600 Million. It's going to take a lot of extra churro sales to cover over that $400 Million loss.
‘Elvis’ Croons Past ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ to Win Rare Box Office Dance-Off With $31M
On Sunday, studio estimates had the two movies tying for No. 1, but final weekend numbers show Baz Luhrmann's Elvis Presley biopic pulling ahead.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
ElvisMickey
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Elvis, babyLightyear didn't get legs. If anything, it's getting them amputated for Weekend #2. The weekend is only half over, but the box office is already partially in and the trends are clear. Lightyear is dropping down to fifth place this weekend. And the Minions arrive in a few days.
From the latest article at The Hollywood Reporter this afternoon...
"One bummer is Disney and Pixar’s Lightyear, which is falling steeply in its second outing after opening to a subdued $51 million a week ago. The animated family film looks to be down 64 percent or more with a weekend gross of $18 million to $20 million, an unprecedented decline for a Pixar movie (that doesn’t include Onward, which opened just as theaters began closing because of the pandemic)."
We will update the thread by Sunday evening, obviously, but it's safe to say Lightyear is dead and will have cost the Walt Disney Company around $400 Million using your figure of a breakeven point of $600 Million. It's going to take a lot of extra churro sales to cover over that $400 Million loss.
‘Elvis’ Croons Past ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ to Win Rare Box Office Dance-Off With $31M
On Sunday, studio estimates had the two movies tying for No. 1, but final weekend numbers show Baz Luhrmann's Elvis Presley biopic pulling ahead.
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TP2000
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It is funny, isn't it?
Disney & Pixar have simply got to start making family movies that American families actually pay to go see! Their current business model of spending $150 to $200 Million per film for movies that few American parents want to take their children to is simply not sustainable. Or wise.
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TP2000
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Elvis, baby
They don't call him The King for no reason.
I've got a little group text going with some friends, we plan to go see this later this week. I'm spoiled now at my age for movie viewing experiences; I can only go to those swanky theaters with giant reclining chairs and tables and waiter service where you order off a menu, push a button, and they bring you a glass of champagne and chocolate drizzled popcorn. Here in San Diego the luxury movie chain is called Cinepolis, and they have really nailed it.
But we will go and see this Elvis movie that way at the Cinepolis up the road in Del Mar.
It's the only way to fly!
ElvisMickey
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First, noticed your post from a few days ago…absolutely love Girl Happy! Second, I saw it on Thursday at Disney Springs and it was fantastic. Not entirely historically accurate at times, but most movies take artistic liberties. Interested to know what you think once you see it!They don't call him The King for no reason.
I've got a little group text going with some friends, we plan to go see this later this week. I'm spoiled now for movie viewing experiences; I can only go to those swanky theaters with giant reclining chairs and tables and waitress service where you order off a menu, push a button, and they bring you a glass of champagne and a slice of cheesecake or chocolate drizzled popcorn.
But we will go and see this Elvis movie that way at the Cinepolis up the road in Del Mar.
It's the only way to fly!
TrainsOfDisney
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I’m going to guess that I will personally like Lightyear better than turning red. But I’m also smart enough to think that a cute red panda would sell better than an unrecognizable version of a toy that was already ignored in TS4.
TP2000
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I can't wait! I'm assuming it will take some artistic liberties with historical accuracy, but what doesn't nowadays?
I really am a fan of Elvis during his 1960's phase, from the early-to-mid 60's movies to his '68 Comeback Special. Also his "Via Satellite" stuff from Hawaii. I hope the movie deals with that a bit, instead of just focusing on his 1956 pelvis shaking and curled lip.
And I know his life story doesn't have a very happy ending, and I expect the movie to even over-dramatize that, so I'll just leave this little song here from Elvis at the 1962 Seattle World's Fair to cheer us up!
Goodness knows the Disney/Pixar executives in Emeryville and Burbank need some cheering up this weekend since Lightyear didn't have a happy ending!
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TwilightZone
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Turning Red is the definition of a movie that, while not pleasing some old fuddies, pleases a lot of the modern generation (very important I think since social media fuels a lot of popularity).
Buzz doesn't seem to please anyone.
Buzz doesn't seem to please anyone.
ElvisMickey
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I can't wait! I'm assuming it will take some artistic liberties with historical accuracy, but what doesn't nowadays?
I really am a fan of Elvis during his 1960's phase, from the early-to-mid 60's movies to his '68 Comeback Special. Also his "Via Satellite" stuff from Hawaii. I hope the movie deals with that a bit, instead of just focusing on his 1956 pelvis shaking and curled lip.
And I know his life story doesn't have a very happy ending, and I expect the movie to even over-dramatize that, so I'll just leave this little song here from Elvis at the 1962 Seattle World's Fair for us all to cheer us up! Goodness knows the Disney/Pixar executives in Emeryville and Burbank need some cheering up with a happy ending this weekend!
It honestly quickly glosses over everything from the point that his mother died to the Comeback Special, which is a tad disappointing. I know his 60s movies weren’t the highlight of Elvis’s career, but I enjoy them as well. There are some hidden gems out there…Kissin’ Cousins?! However the attention to detail as a whole throughout the entire movie are amazing. Especially if you’re someone who knows about Elvis and have been to Memphis, etc.
Yes! Burbank is in trouble…
Pecos Scott
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We chose not to see this movie. We chose not to see this movie for the same reason many, and I do mean many, other people chose not to see this movie. The reason does not belong in this discussion, but it is a personal choice. The great thing about the US is we can choose what movies to spend our money on and which ones not to, without anyone dictating whether our choice is right or wrong. Just as we do not condemn anyone who did in fact choose to see this movie. It's a personal choice. It's a free country. We choose our entertainment. We choose how to spend our income on family entertainment.
To the countries and their leaders who are banning this movie from the public, this is a wrong decision. Let the public decide with their wallets, not be told or restricted. The public has its own mind and can decide for itself.
To the countries and their leaders who are banning this movie from the public, this is a wrong decision. Let the public decide with their wallets, not be told or restricted. The public has its own mind and can decide for itself.
Dear Prudence
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I haven't seen it yet, but I'm obsessed with Sox.
TwilightZone
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SOX is, from what I have seen, the breakout character of Lightyear. Probably will get his own spinoff down the line I bet, even with the movie's failure.
TP2000
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How does that play out exactly on Disney+ and in the toy aisle at Target?
You didn't see him in the movie that flopped, but you'll love him anyway! It's Sox, the Buzz Lightyear sidekick you aren't familiar with and didn't know you needed in your life until you saw this ad!
That's gonna be like trying to sell VINCENT from The Black Hole toys in 1979 when all the kids only want R2D2 stuff.
Now on Disney+, it's the VINCENT Saga that you don't care about but your $8 already paid for!
Now on Disney+, it's the Sox Saga that you don't care about but your $8 already paid for!
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Kirby86
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I'd imagine he'd get a few shorts here or there. Maybe in the same vain as Forky ask a question or Dug Days on Disney Plus.
DCLcruiser
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We don't have kids, so we were part of the problem haha. Then again, our theatre (Sunday @ 3:30pm, Dolby Cinema $$$$) had a ton of kids, but it was not packed at all.Holiday weekends and vacation periods are traditionally big for the movie business. It's why all the big blockbusters are released for Easter vacation, Memorial Day Weekend for summer, and during Christmas. That basic business tenet of the movie business is also why stinkers and low-budget weaklings are quietly released in the middle of September or the end of February.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to use "it opened on a holiday weekend" as another reason why Lightyear bombed. But I do agree that Lightyear's problems were likely a combination of several things.
This latest article from The Hollywood Reporter has an interesting bit of facts and data on its demographic pull at the box office. Apparently Lightyear did not pull in family demographics well at all. If a movie studio is in the business of making "family films" like Pixar certainly is, they better darn well ensure their movies appeal to large numbers of American families!
January, 2022: Sonic The Hedgehog 2 = 60% Ticket sales to parents & children
June, 2022: Lightyear = 38% Ticket sales to parents & children
‘Lightyear’ Box Office: Behind the Pixar Movie’s Family Problem
The 'Toy Story' spinoff is suffering at theaters thanks to brand confusion, fierce competition and far-right politicians.
DCLcruiser
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I think the issue though, isn't that 14 countries with low ticket sales banned the movie, the issue is that a US media outlet decided to actively push the same narrative to US consumers. Especially those in the Disney bubble, who may have decided to not watch it.
DCLcruiser
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If the movie wasn't Lightyear, and instead was a backstory for Space Mountain, perhaps it would have done better as just a sci-fi movie.
I still think it was good. The references to Buzz the toy's characteristics was great. Ignoring sales, go see it, and report back.
I still think it was good. The references to Buzz the toy's characteristics was great. Ignoring sales, go see it, and report back.