Visiting an international park, to me, is the time when you don't want to buy any kind of skip-the-line pass, unless your goal is only to experience the ride itself and skip any and all details in the queue.
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Visiting an international park, to me, is the time when you don't want to buy any kind of skip-the-line pass, unless your goal is only to experience the ride itself and skip any and all details in the queue.
JMcMahonEsq
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Honestly these type of statements are just silly.
I get that your time just might be so meaningless that wasting it standing around doing nothing is the best use of your time. So for your, sure there is "not value there "in reducing the time waiting around doing nothing. But for many people, including myself, my time is limited, its valuable, and I would much rather spending it doing something, anything, other than standing around doing nothing, when its avoidable.
As to costs, again being a completely subjective and relative decision. Given you don't value your time, maybe for your budget 200-449 is too much to pay. Listen, I don't spend other people's money, so whatever works for you personally, that's great, but it has nothing to do with common sense. While I am not an actor or a professional athlete, and don't have "FU never have to worry about what my grandkids are going to do for work kind of money," I and many others, have a budget such that in a real sense there isn't really a practical difference between spending 15K, or 10K for an annual trip to WDW. So to me, spending the money to skip having to literally wait around and do nothing in a line is a no brainer.
JMcMahonEsq
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I can understand this in theory, but I think you could also argue that you want to be able to skip the lines at the international park because 1) for most US people, its far mor likely your visit to an international park is a 1 and done, vs multiple trips to WDW and 2) don't you want more time there to explore the other things the parks offer, the food, the shops, the shows, all the special items you can't get domestically?
John park hopper
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Guess if you are paying those kind of prices a 30 dollar slice of cake is no problem. Disney is catering to the rich sure ain't the middle class any more.
Purduevian
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I mean no one is forcing anyone to buy premiere pass or a $30 slice of cake. I personally won't buy either of them, but Disney has plenty of options I can afford.
JD80
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I don't think you know what rich is. Most people don't.
Or Disney is catering to guests who don't care about credit card debt.
JMcMahonEsq
Well-Known Member
Its hilarious how people find that anytime something isn't in their price range, just myopically thinks it must be prices for rich people if I can't afford it.
I mean lets say a 30 slice of cake is in your opinion too expensive. They aren't going to give it away for free. So lets say you think 10 bucks per slice is ok. Someone spending an extra 20 bucks makes someone rich?
And the $30 piece is big enough to share; $15 per portion
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
What will show in time is they don’t have that choice.
Parks were built to run an certain way…drawing on a wide and deep customer pool
So as the pool drains…the margin for error does as well.
And what happens when the expectation for the prices rise? They can’t afford to meet it.
But Bob will be dead…and as long as you realize that…spend away so we can all get the feelz
Raineman
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I think the issue is that, at what point will Disney continue to take pieces that were always part of the basic park experience you get with admission, and start charging for them to the point that the majority of guests can't afford them? It already started when FP/FP+ was replaced with a new paid option. This LLPP is not a necessity for everyone at this point, but what if the prices of the standard LL start moving towards the price of LLPP? What else that used to be part of the price of admission will Disney make a paid option?
$20 sharing fee...
nickys
Premium Member
Purduevian
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Wonder if they have data to back up that selling more won't back up the LL or if they are just saying screw it and releasing more.
JMcMahonEsq
Well-Known Member
How much do you really think the premier pass would/could back up the LL.
It seems like most people feel that the pricing of them is so high, that only Elon Musk, Daddy Warbucks, and Scrooge McDuck can afford them. But if we assume the price point is high enough to limit sales per day to what, 100 users (and if its not then all the talk about them being too expensive is even more stupid.) But assuming 100 users, what is the effect on any 1 LL line of spreading out 100 users, across all the rides, through the entire time the park is open? Hell even if all 100 users just magically hit 1 ride at one time, it would mean 1) that only 1 ride out of the entire park is being effected by the premier pass at any given time, and 2) with the throughput on most rides, how much is an extra 100 people effective it? This of course assumes that everyone hits the same LL at the same time, which is pretty unlikely.
Rosso11
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I would assume they are shifting their allocations away from regular LL and giving it to premier.
DisneyCane
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That's what I would do. Even if somebody buys LLMP and all the individual passes it won't come close to the ridiculous $400 for LLMP. Every 1 for 1 swap is an enormous pure profit.