Disstevefan1
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Because the LL system is so broken maybe?If the price is low because of low crowds, then why do I need a Premier Pass if crowds are low?
Besides that, Iger and D'Amaro LOVES THE MONEY!
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Lightning Lane Premier Pass
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Besides that, Iger and D'Amaro LOVES THE MONEY!
tissandtully
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Because it's purely for FOMO families, which if this is something you are doing once every 10 years and want to do everything and fit things in without waiting in line, it's an appealing option.If the price is low because of low crowds, then why do I need a Premier Pass if crowds are low?
WorldExplorer
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If the price is low because of low crowds, then why do I need a Premier Pass if crowds are low?
The same reason you need a lightning lane reservation for a ride that regularly has a five minute wait.
Disney's Premier Pass - Starting as low as $119*
*Only at DAK where the PP is more or less useless.
*Price featured for the PP is on very rare select days, every other day it will co$t you much much more.
*Per Person PP Price.
*No refunds for the PP if you find that you've been misled about actual wait times that are so low as to not justify purchasing the PP.
*Only at DAK where the PP is more or less useless.
*Price featured for the PP is on very rare select days, every other day it will co$t you much much more.
*Per Person PP Price.
*No refunds for the PP if you find that you've been misled about actual wait times that are so low as to not justify purchasing the PP.
To feel special. To wait in a 5 minutes line instead of a 15 minute line.If the price is low because of low crowds, then why do I need a Premier Pass if crowds are low?
Seriously even a low crowd day might have some attractions with a 45 minute line.
JMcMahonEsq
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This.
Lets say your at MK on an insanely low crowd day, where every ride had only a 10min wait. If you want to ride 10-12 things that still between an hour and forty and two hours of waiting in line. And that's based on wait times that on average just don't exist, absent extreme circumstances we hopefully will never see again. (I will still remember being at MK right before labor day during covid delta. Most kids were back in school, many people were still not traveling, lines were so short i think my family rode BTRR 3 times in a row, they didn't even make them get out of the seats.)
So if you have the cash, why would you not want to save at minimum around 2 hours of your time.
FOMO.If the price is low because of low crowds, then why do I need a Premier Pass if crowds are low?
It's the same reason why people make ADRs 60 days out, when the majority of TS restaurants can be picked up 2 days out when they drop additional capacity.
DisneyCane
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What will you do with those saved two hours and is is worth the cost?
Exactly. Most of us would say not worth it.
It's not just the few hours. It's also flexibility.
Disstevefan1
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Do we know if Disney is dropping capacity or if guests are starting to cancel unwanted reservations?
I would actually find an offer like this appealing if, for example, I was going to Tokyo Disney, and I knew I would never be returning. So maybe the true is the same in reverse.
But that being said, it’s a shame the price doesn’t include the park hopper, because realistically you could finish either DHS or DAK within a few hours on this model.
I would also never, ever advise this purchase unless a visitor was going at the busiest of times (President’s Day/marathon, Easter/Spring Break, Christmas), and as others have said, never at DAK and rarely for EPCOT.
Still think After Hours is a much better value.
But that being said, it’s a shame the price doesn’t include the park hopper, because realistically you could finish either DHS or DAK within a few hours on this model.
I would also never, ever advise this purchase unless a visitor was going at the busiest of times (President’s Day/marathon, Easter/Spring Break, Christmas), and as others have said, never at DAK and rarely for EPCOT.
Still think After Hours is a much better value.
Purduevian
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I wonder how many of these they sell before being "sold out". I still feel like peter pan's flight is probably the limiting factor here as basically everyone that buys premire pass will ride it and it only has 800pph capacity. Make a ton of assumptions and maybe none of them are right.
Lets assume all LLPP is spread out evenly between 10am-6pm. Durring that time Pan (assuming no breakdowns) gives out 6,400 rides. I don't think disney would want more than 30% of that being LLPP, which would limit the sales to ~2000 people a day?
At $449 per person, Disney would make ~$900,000 from these 2,000 people.
I'm assuming Disney will keep dropping the LLMP availability on these low capacity attractions (Pan, Pooh, JC, ect) during peak LLPP times so they can sell more.
It does make you wonder if they would in turn limit the sales of LLMP. Surely they have some sort of formula built into the programming… a ratio of MP and PP for total sales.
Disstevefan1
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I could not find the right thread to ask this question.
We purchased LLMP and LLSP in advance but one in the party is now sick and cant go.
Does Disney have proper procedures in place to refund LLMP and LLSP?
We purchased LLMP and LLSP in advance but one in the party is now sick and cant go.
Does Disney have proper procedures in place to refund LLMP and LLSP?
I thought the same until Disney moved to a 2 hour cancellation window.
While people's plans shift and that likely has some impact into availability, it is my understanding that the inventory is added to the system the closer you get to day of.
Doing a quick search of ADRs comparing Friday 11/22 to Friday 12/6 (non-holiday weekends) for a party of 2, a place like Citricos only has 1 slot available on 12/6, however the 11/22 date has basically all slots available from 5PM- 9PM. The same can be said about Topolinos, Flying Fish, Jiko, California Grill, Chef Mickeys, and many other TS locations.
To further illustrate this, on 12/6 the app lists 41 locations for a party of 2 that have no availability. On 11/22 it lists 25 locations with no availability.
If you visit guest services in person or call Disney directly and act like a decent human being towards the CM, anything that is "non-refundable" magically can become refundable.
Particularly if you're willing to accept a credit instead of a refund back to the original form of payment