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MickeyLuv'r

MickeyLuv'r

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JMcMahonEsq said:
While I don't mind the advice, I am honestly confused by people who come a Disney message board, and make suggestions about going to someplace other than Disney.

I mean if I want to see the Red Sox play, and i am on a Red Sox message board, what does it matter to me what the prices are for yankee game, or a blue jays game. That's not what i like nor want to spend money on.

I don't care about prices at Universal vs Disney, just like I don't care about prices of the ballet or Cedar Point as it compares to Disney. I am a Disney fan, and enjoy going to Disney, and seeing Mickey, and the castle, and haunted mansion, ect. While I am a HP fan and wouldn't mind seeing some of the areas there, no one else in my family could care about it, or have ever read the books/see the movies.

Value is completely subjective. You could give me tickets to Circ de Solie for free, and i would still pay my 10K for a week at Disney, because I am not a fan of Circ de Solie. If its not something i want to see, I don't care about how "great a deal." it is. It's not like i am buying stock here or investing and looking for appreciation of an objective ROI. The only question that matters to a Disney fan is the price i am paying to go to Disney, worth it to me to go Disney, not that I could spend less or more someplace else.
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We go to both, but see the value in shifting more towards Universal. We don't visit Sea World though, so I understand what you're saying that it just doesn't appeal to you.

When it comes to WDW vs. Universal though, they are more of a direct compare, IMO. I the past, WDW was always better, but where WDW has slipped in quality, Universal has improved. Universal wins on price, ease of touring, and customer service.

IMO, it is some of the little customer service details that used to make WDW exceptional, but mostly those have slipped away. On our most recent visits, we splurged for a few TS meals, and the food quality was just lousy.

One that still upsets me was a character meal just a few months ago. We didn't personally care about seeing the characters all that much, but the table next to us had two young girls in costume there to celebrate a birthday. Sadly, the character they came to see couldn't be bothered to do her job, and missed the birthday girl! She was crying, and asking why the princess didn't want to see her. At a meal that costs $70+ pp.

That kind of sloppy service was beyond unacceptable, IMO.
 
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DisneyCane

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Just an observation on actual standby waits vs. posted from AK yesterday.

FoP posted 95 minutes when we got in line. It was 70 minutes from when we entered the queue until we were in the first pre-show room. I was looking at MDE after we passed the LL merge and the wait time was updated to 80 minutes.

Dinosaur posted at 35 minutes. To the pre-show room was about 20 minutes. After the pre-show it was backed up into the hallway a bit before you go down the stairs.

Kali was posted 25 minutes and we waited about 20 minutes.

It didn't seem like massive inflation of waits to sell LL. Maybe they inflate it more if the actual wait is only 10 minutes to make people feel like they are getting value but the longer waits seemed pretty accurate plus a buffer to allow for operational issues. They also don't want to instantly lower the time as soon as possible in case a bunch of people join the line.

Maybe somebody else would know for sure but it seems to me that the posted wait includes the pre-shows.
 
JD80

JD80

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I spent the last few days in the parks and didn't really do standby. The few times I did they were spot on.
 
Jrb1979

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DisDude33

DisDude33

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DisneyCane said:
Just an observation on actual standby waits vs. posted from AK yesterday.

FoP posted 95 minutes when we got in line. It was 70 minutes from when we entered the queue until we were in the first pre-show room. I was looking at MDE after we passed the LL merge and the wait time was updated to 80 minutes.

Dinosaur posted at 35 minutes. To the pre-show room was about 20 minutes. After the pre-show it was backed up into the hallway a bit before you go down the stairs.

Kali was posted 25 minutes and we waited about 20 minutes.

It didn't seem like massive inflation of waits to sell LL. Maybe they inflate it more if the actual wait is only 10 minutes to make people feel like they are getting value but the longer waits seemed pretty accurate plus a buffer to allow for operational issues. They also don't want to instantly lower the time as soon as possible in case a bunch of people join the line.

Maybe somebody else would know for sure but it seems to me that the posted wait includes the pre-shows.
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as someone that has worked the attractions I can confirm that the wait times are meant to be from when you enter the line to when get in the ride vehicle.
 
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Purduevian

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I assume Friday and Saturday of thanksgiving weekend will be the top price for all parks. I'm kind of surprised they put a top limit on the price in the announcement. If this thing sells like crazy for thanksgiving weekend, I bet there will be some finance people upset they can't go higher at Christmas without marketing getting mad.
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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DisneyCane said:
Just an observation on actual standby waits vs. posted from AK yesterday.

FoP posted 95 minutes when we got in line. It was 70 minutes from when we entered the queue until we were in the first pre-show room. I was looking at MDE after we passed the LL merge and the wait time was updated to 80 minutes.

Dinosaur posted at 35 minutes. To the pre-show room was about 20 minutes. After the pre-show it was backed up into the hallway a bit before you go down the stairs.

Kali was posted 25 minutes and we waited about 20 minutes.

It didn't seem like massive inflation of waits to sell LL. Maybe they inflate it more if the actual wait is only 10 minutes to make people feel like they are getting value but the longer waits seemed pretty accurate plus a buffer to allow for operational issues. They also don't want to instantly lower the time as soon as possible in case a bunch of people join the line.

Maybe somebody else would know for sure but it seems to me that the posted wait includes the pre-shows.
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Is there anything posted by WDW that says what the wait time number is supposed to identify? Meaning for the larger rides with pre-show room type set ups, is the wait time supposed to be from when you scan in until you get to the first pre-show, or when you are actually starting the ride? So for example for haunted mansion is time supposed to be from when you scan in until you get to the stretching room? Or when your but hits the Doom buggy? For pandora is the wait time supposed to end when you get to your pre-flight screening and decontamination, or when your fight begins? Not asking what we think it SHOULD mean, I am wondering if there is anything official which states what its meant to mean.
 
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DisneyCane

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JMcMahonEsq said:
Is there anything posted by WDW that says what the wait time number is supposed to identify? Meaning for the larger rides with pre-show room type set ups, is the wait time supposed to be from when you scan in until you get to the first pre-show, or when you are actually starting the ride? So for example for haunted mansion is time supposed to be from when you scan in until you get to the stretching room? Or when your but hits the Doom buggy? For pandora is the wait time supposed to end when you get to your pre-flight screening and decontamination, or when your fight begins? Not asking what we think it SHOULD mean, I am wondering if there is anything official which states what its meant to mean.
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@DisDude33 above said that it is to when you board the ride vehicle. If that's the case, I'd say the estimates are pretty accurate with a buffer for hiccups.
 
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DisneyCane

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MickeyLuv'r said:
From your earlier post, 3 data points all collected on same day, in the same park, and all rides w/pre-shows is a very small data set.
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That is very true. I just would think if they were drastically inflating wait times on purpose to sell LL that it would show up even in a small sample size.
 
MickeyLuv'r

MickeyLuv'r

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DisneyCane said:
That is very true. I just would think if they were drastically inflating wait times on purpose to sell LL that it would show up even in a small sample size.
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Not necessarily. In this case, I trust Len's data.

There appears to be some variability in how inaccurate the posted wait times are. They tend to be fairly accurate mid-day, but off/inflated early AM/late PM, IME.


I've personally seen wait times that were way off, though off in both directions.
 
MrPromey

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MickeyLuv'r said:
Not necessarily. In this case, I trust Len's data.

There appears to be some variability in how inaccurate the posted wait times are. They tend to be fairly accurate mid-day, but off/inflated early AM/late PM, IME.


I've personally seen wait times that were way off, though off in both directions.
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And this doesn't seem at all inconsistent with how they appeared to be doing things before paid LL came on the scene.

they've clearly got a financial incentive to do it and I'm hardly a fan of current management but it doesn't seem like they've been doing anything out of the ordinary to juice sales up to this point.
 
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I laughed when I read “For guests looking to save, midweek days during non-peak times remain the most budget-friendly option.”

I think for guests looking to save, especially at AK and Epcot, the answer is to just book LLMP early for the 3 most difficult rides and plan to maybe have to wait in one real line at some point. 😋
 
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DCBaker

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On Thanksgiving, the Lightning Lane Premier pass hits the max price for each park:


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Splash4eva

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
Of course they are. If they aren’t, they don’t stay wealthy. Anyone can **** away a fortune.
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Not defending Disney at all here BUT lets just use a 5 park day trip for a family of 4. Even at say peak times. An extra 6k is not going to move the needle on anyone willing to pay this price and those who want an “experience” say does it once at MK for $1600 again some people would splurge and others its just not about the money
 

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