To extend this analogy, though, I think the proposition they're promising is that the quality of your once-free food will now improve as a result of them focusing on making it for fewer people. Whether or not they can deliver on that promise remains to be seen.
Hey hey, easy now, I love Cedar Point. It knows what it’s space is and plays extremely well in it.
And I'm very much in between. I'll probably buy Genie+ and I'll probably buy it every day. I will absolutely never pay for any of the Individual Attractions.
Meanwhile the baseball team has decided that in order to be more cost effective, they have eliminated the left fielder and the shortstop. This will ensure guests have fewer distractions in enjoying the ballgame, a product optimization.
You’re the culprit!!
Not arguing, legitimately asking, do we know this for sure? Are they limiting them, or can everyone buy one should they choose? I doubt uptake would be as much as FP but it seems there are enough anecdotes of people having no clue about or how to use FP that it’s usage was also not 100%
I don't think they're selling limited quantity, no. But uptake for something that costs even $1 can't possibly be more than update for the same thing that's free. The demand curve slopes downward.
I followed your advice and "ignored" my first poster ever. Most of the garbage I still like to read in case there are useful nuggets, but I was afraid to have to weed through 20 pages of fighting about an autocorrected word while completely ignoring the context of the larger post.When I was behind, I did this:
I put on /ignore every person who had nothing useful to add. They were just giving their hot take. Or they were arguing about a tangent (can DAS really be enforced?!?).
That left only the people asking and answering questions.
After all the /ignores, some pages had only 10 posts. Got caught up quickly.
Later, I went to my /ignore list and /unignored them all.
Felt good to read a hot topic without the ones who normally take up all the oxygen.
It's also had significantly better service in the past few years than I've gotten from Disney. But I digress.
It certainly wouldn’t be more. Could it be 80% of former FP users? 60%? 40%?
The problem is that they're gonna do that anyway in the next 2-4 years. Price increases aren't going to slow down because they introduced Genie+.
I think that's just going to come down to waiting and seeing it in action. Ultimately we will just have to keep an eye out the first few months to see how the pass is affect standby lines, how easily accessible good times are, and how quickly they go.
It really depends on whether I would need/want to use a FP-like option. Right now, you do not have to pay for Genie +. You can get your park admission, and still get on attractions, if you want to, and I have heard some people say that's what they would do, they've never used FP before so it wouldn't affect them, etc.. To those people, if they raised park admission to approximately the same level as the Genie + would cost, then it is not an option-they have to pay it, and, in essence, are paying for something that they would never use. I am not 100% sure at this point what I would personally do, TBH. If they raised ticket prices, but still used the new Genie + system, and it worked better than the old FP+ system-then I might be OK with it. It is still going to cost me more regardless. Hearing feedback once this is new system is implemented will be very helpful-if $15 a day gives me more "FPs" a day than the old system did, then I would determine if the added value is worth the additional cost.
That's what I think, too. They can try to project outcomes as much as they like with modeling, but humans are gonna human.
Just put the app on her cell phone if she has one. Or if you and your spouse upgrade your phones at any point between now and when you go, create a spare family line off of the now spare cell phone. That does require payment for the line though. But if your daughter already has a phone, she should be able to create an account and you should be able to link it to your master account.
I can't see them making more money from giving Genie+ free to on site guests. They would then have a built in floor using these every day which would make off site guests purchase for parity. Then when everybody has Genie+, the lines are still long and everybody is mad.
Ive seen similar sentiments, but I would ask: did you think old (paper) FP was stressful? Because functionally LL will operate the same way except digital. People keep trying to suggest that it will be some massive rush to book LL times but between people not buying the product, some buying but not using frequently (or at all) during the day, people using it for different experiences, etc there will be availability similar to past paper FP. Some rides will run out but not at 9:00 AM - the rides with that kind of massive demand will be in the higher priced tier that many fewer guests will purchase.
