Cariad
Active Member
I'll be interested in that as I have a VPN that allows me to watch American TV including Disneynow.com. However, I doubt it'll be possible.
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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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nickys
Premium Member
MDE doesn’t use IP addresses to determine location, they use GPS.
A vpn won’t allow you to book Genie+ currently so almost certainly won’t allow you to pre book MultiPass either.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
You had to buy genie+ too and pay for individual lightning lanes. The major change is you can pre-book 3 genie+ reservations now (7 of 3 days in advance depending on hotel reservations and country you are in) which benefits some people and hurts others. We won’t know what the prices will be until later but I would bet the price doesn’t go down on this. I would expect demand to be similar or higher depending on time of year and availability.
GigglesMcSnort
Well-Known Member
Is this an either / or type question, or can I choose multiple options?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
So is the order of speed from slowest to fastest FastPass< MaxPass< Lightning Lane. That was the order of cost but does cost equal speed?
flynnibus
Premium Member
we also only have one person repeating it... from a system no one has actually used.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
For the planners and those who go into the parks ride their 3 rides and leave it's great. For my family it's awful, it's gone to far back to the planning process.
IMO the best option was to let the planners have their first LL booked ahead of time and kept the Genie+ rules from there. Better compromise for the planners and those that like it day of
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
I don’t have a trip in the books so I have the privilege of playing the wait and see game in hopes that this might turn out better than the most negative possible scenarios. I’m hoping LL capacity is better than we’re assuming it to be and day of availability holds better than with FP+ and Genie, after all this new system seemingly hinged on DAS changes.
I also am choosing to be optimistic that the international silliness will be worked out.
I also am choosing to be optimistic that the international silliness will be worked out.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
They claim the change to advance reservations is based on guest feedback. Who knows if that’s really true and even if it is I’m sure 100% did not ask for it. Even if it was 60/40 that means 40% didn’t want it. Not everyone will be happy.
With FP+ Disney had people booking reservation 30-60 days out. They knew well in advance expected crowd levels. When the parks re-opened after Covid shut down they dropped FP+ but went to park reservations which gave them the same data but the reservations are gone now in a lot of cases. I do wonder if part of the switch back to ride reservations in advance is for logistics and allocation of CMs. I suppose if they did the 1 reservation instead of 3 it would achieve the same result but either way that has to have some value.
Dranth
Well-Known Member
They also claimed that removing the prebooking when switching to G+ was because of guest feedback.
Either they are just responding to whoever is yelling the most at any time or the push back to no planning with G+ was worse than the push back with planning for FP+.
My guess is G+ being a paid service made many mad and unwilling to overlook its flaws vs. a free system like FP+. I certainly don't blame anyone for feeling that way but going forward, it will be interesting to see if people really like a FP+ like system now that they are paying for it. I suspect that whole being free thing is what made most users able to look past its glaring issues.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
I think that's part of it. I really believe a big part of it is trying to fill hotels rooms they are struggling to fill.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
Modern Disney’s strategy to fill rooms would be offering guests the privilege to pay more and thinking that’ll do the trick
KatiebugFan
Active Member
This complaint about being on your phone the whole day with G+ is so overblown. Last time I had G+ I spent 9 hours in the part and the amount of time that I was using G+ was only about 30 minutes, definitely not the whole day.
JAB
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I'm with you on that. Our last trip we did rope drop to close most days, and between G+ and mobile order I was on my phone less than 15 minutes total for each day. A couple of minutes at 7 AM, and then for a minute or two once every two hours (if that). For a 9 AM - 9 PM park day, that's 98% of my time that I wasn't on my phone, so I certainly wasn't on my phone "all day."
I think some people just refuse to "look at screens" even if it's actually faster and more convenient. During our last trip I overheard a woman trying to get her husband to use mobile order for lunch and he adamantly refused. When she tried to explain why it was faster, he just cut her off and said, "I don't want to mess around with all that. I just want to go there and order my food."
I certainly prefer taking a couple of minutes on my phone to order my food and pick it up with no wait vs. standing in the long order lines that we saw every time we picked up a mobile order, and I definitely prefer taking a minute or less to grab a LL from my phone wherever I am vs taking 15-20 minutes to walk to the other side of the park to grab a paper Fastpass.
On the flip side, though, it only works so well for those of us who use it because there are so many people who stubbornly refuse to, so... uh... yeah! No screens!!
Cariad
Active Member
I never believe any company that claims they do anything based on customer feedback.
One example; Splash Mountain.
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Brian
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So, the question is, which of the following is true (if any):
1) It was always going to be US & Canada only, but poor communication/writing from Disney made it seem as though it would be US only.
2) They have managed to create a fix in the last 77 hours since the first announcement, and this is the start of the international roll out.
3) They have managed to create a fix in the last 77 hours since the first announcement, but feel that "US & Canada is good enough..."
GoofGoof
Premium Member
It does give an advantage for sure but will it move the needle on people deciding to stay on property? For the deluxe resorts the evening EMHs is a much better perk than booking rides a few days earlier. Maybe it helps get some people off of Int’l Drive to fill the all stars but I can’t see someone who could be paying $100 a night for a room being willing to shell out $700 for the Poly just to book their rides 4 days earlier.