And they have little choice since they bought back so many contracts to prop up resale values.I can see the perks being pretty beefy and for direct only. They have an uphill battle ahead of them re: selling direct points.
You get Genie+ and you get Genie+. You all get Genie+ with your stay.I don't care about DVC, tell me resort perks!![]()
That a good point. No specific room is ever guaranteed. Still, it’s essentially removing the most popular rooms from the grasp of ’perkless’. Either those rooms are part of DVC or they are not; nobody can have more or less chance at them.I don't think this is an issue, legally. They don't and won't guarantee any particular room other than the booking category you land in. And even then they can give you something "better" if they run out.
What I'm hoping for is that they'll finally give one of my short split-stays an upgrade to a bungalow at PVB. I think that's what we'll all hope for, and not get.
everyone keeps saying/joking about this yet FP was a success for many and even to those who called it a failure were still able to get 3 fastpasses per day plus any add ons which no matter what you were able to get even if it was for less desirable rides... more than people can say about genieYou get Genie+ and you get Genie+. You all get Genie+ with your stay.
As good as that may sound it will render Genie+ useless. If that many have it you will be lucky to get 1 LL a day.
I have yet to see a day where someone that started at park opening could not get 3 LL rides.everyone keeps saying/joking about this yet FP was a success for many and even to those who called it a failure were still able to get 3 fastpasses per day plus any add ons which no matter what you were able to get even if it was for less desirable rides... more than people can say about genie
so you are saying you are able to get the same 3 quality type rides as you did with FP at the times you actually want? anyone who only used 1 or 2 a day was by choice...I have yet to see a day where someone that started at park opening could not get 3 LL rides.
Of course people could not use the system and start at like 6pm, then yes you can't get 3 rides.
I'm also guessing there were some cases of people only using 1 or 2 FP a day. The big difference is you have to be on your phone at least 3 times vs 1 time for FP+
Nopeso you are saying you are able to get the same 3 quality type rides as you did with FP at the times you actually want? anyone who only used 1 or 2 a day was by choice...
I'm saying you can say exactly the same thing about Genie "everyone keeps saying/joking about this yet FP was a success for many and even to those who called it a failure were still able to get 3 fastpasses per day plus any add ons which no matter what you were able to get even if it was for less desirable rides... more than people can say about genie"I have yet to see a day where someone that started at park opening could not get 3 LL rides.
Okay. So we are in agreement the 3 FP vs 3 Genie are not the same even tho the quantity is the same? Bc your comment seemed to indicate thats what you were saying. Apologies if i am incorrect.Nope
I'm saying you can say exactly the same thing about Genie "everyone keeps saying/joking about this yet FP was a success for many and even to those who called it a failure were still able to get 3 fastpasses per day plus any add ons which no matter what you were able to get even if it was for less desirable rides... more than people can say about genie"
I didn't say that either. You simply said:Okay. So we are in agreement the 3 FP vs 3 Genie are not the same even tho the quantity is the same? Bc your comment seemed to indicate thats what you were saying. Apologies if i am incorrect.
I disagreed with that saying you could can still get 3 fastpasses (lightning lanes) per day plus any add ons with genieeveryone keeps saying/joking about this yet FP was a success for many and even to those who called it a failure were still able to get 3 fastpasses per day plus any add ons which no matter what you were able to get even if it was for less desirable rides... more than people can say about genie
And to me thats the biggest issue w Genie times… along with plenty of others lol. Its almost impossible to get 3 solid attractions within a. 2 hour window and impossible to get 3 MK attractions of your choice all in the AM. You wanna pay extra and hope for a 7d early ride time and then a top tier attraction as your 1st so be it but now your cost just doubled…I didn't say that either. You simply said:
I disagreed with that saying you could can still get 3 fastpasses (lightning lanes) per day plus any add ons with genie
If you want to start a different discussion on the quality of the first 3FP+ vs first 3G+ we can do that. I think for the most part, peoples 2nd and 3rd G+ selection will be worse than their 2nd and 3rd FP+ selection because of the lack of ILL included.
The only time i used G+ at WDW my first 3 attractions were Splash (turned into a ME), Space and Pooh. compared to my 2019 trip where my first 3 where Splash, thunder, and 7D. The times don't really matter to me much because with either FP+ or G+ I was always trying to make the first one ~30 mins after park opening and the next one ASAP after that.
I don’t think there’s any mention of room requests in the contracts.That would be reducing value to other contracts, and I don’t think that ability is supported in the verbiage. Consistently contract language is in the spirit of first come first serve. Plus there’s no wording that says resale would get leftovers, for anything. DVC can only make changes that are seen to benefit the group as a whole. I’m no expert don’t think it is possible to offer room request advantage as a perk, paid or otherwise.
More people holding more reservations requires a lot more capacity to be available, capacity that does not exist. FastPass+ was unsustainable because the parks inherently lacked capacity and that would eventually hit this crunch type of crunch point.
You & others keep saying this yet countless people have shared their experiences and success using this system you claim is/was flawed. Bottom line they have lacked capacity for years if not longer and basically have done nothing to alleviate that burden and attendance has risen which added to said problem. No matter what system they come up with none will work until they add capacity which we know is not even close to happening and imo wont happen until after Uni opens up their new park. They are gonna ride Tron and the other smaller additions and hope to get sloppy seconds from people going to Uni then maybe reassess when to truly expand. In their eyes if they provide capacity they may be afraid the demand to pay for a skip the line system is not gonna be needed…More people holding more reservations requires a lot more capacity to be available, capacity that does not exist. FastPass+ was unsustainable because the parks inherently lacked capacity and that would eventually hit this crunch type of crunch point.
Exactly. How can they now add in that certain owners get priority?I don’t think there’s any mention of room requests in the contracts.
I think her point was that because it isn't in the contract, they can do whatever they want in regards to room requests.Exactly. How can they now add in that certain owners get priority?
Actually I doubt it will, but not for that reason.Exactly. How can they now add in that certain owners get priority?
I don’t think so. Let me mull over my contract but the spirit throughout is first come first serve and nothing that could potentially give priority to one owner over another outside of home resort and Riviera restrictions.I think her point was that because it isn't in the contract, they can do whatever they want in regards to room requests.
People get priority all the time.I don’t think so. Let me mull over my contract but the spirit throughout is first come first serve and nothing that could potentially give priority to one owner over another outside of home resort and Riviera restrictions.
Actually I doubt it will, but not for that reason.
Room assignments are now done centrally, both DVC and non-DVC resorts. If they decide to give priority to certain guests, their reservations would need to have some kind of priority flag on MDE.
Even if they split the room assignments into DVC and non-DVC sections, those reservations would still need to be flagged somehow.
And then what happens when a priority guests makes a last minute reservation? It would be too late at that point to redo all the assignments. Cue one irate DVC member who’s paid for priority assignments and doesn’t get what they wanted.
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