CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
So broken that the company now actively discourages people from buying G+
Why wouldn't they just jack the price way up to throttle demand a bit?
So broken that the company now actively discourages people from buying G+
So broken that the company now actively discourages people from buying G+
This was posted at 10pm, and I assume the screenshot was taken about that time. Even if the poster was Eastern timezone, that's 7pm in Anaheim. By that point most reservations are probably gone. You're saying that guests should freely be able to buy G+ with no warning from Disney it might not be a good idea?So basically they're saying, "Our product sucks. Make sure you know that because we are not standing behind what we're selling you."
Why not just suspend sales if it’s not worthwhile. Why would a reputable company keep selling it?This was posted at 10pm, and I assume the screenshot was taken about that time. Even if the poster was Eastern timezone, that's 7pm in Anaheim. By that point most reservations are probably gone. You're saying that guests should freely be able to buy G+ with no warning from Disney it might not be a good idea?
-Rob
And it comes on the heels of a warning that people should expect only 2 or 3 line skips for their purchase. There’s no denying that the optics are horrible.Why not just suspend sales if it’s not worthwhile. Why would a reputable company keep selling it?
This was posted at 10pm, and I assume the screenshot was taken about that time. Even if the poster was Eastern timezone, that's 7pm in Anaheim. By that point most reservations are probably gone. You're saying that guests should freely be able to buy G+ with no warning from Disney it might not be a good idea?
-Rob
According to some it appeared pre lunch.
Why not just suspend sales if it’s not worthwhile. Why would a reputable company keep selling it?
It’s better not to offer a product that gives only 5% of the people buying it what they want. Your post speaks volumes as to the poor quality of this product.And what of that 5% that would be ok with what's left, knowing the limitations? I just watched a Tim Tracker video where he knowingly bought G+ at Epcot and would only be doing 2 or 3 low-tier attractions.
In this situation, is it better to warn off the 95% but still allow the 5% to do what they want, or keep the 5% from doing what they want to automatically block the 95%?
-Rob
They haven’t felt the need to put that warning up late afternoon say at DHS when reports suggest all there is left are a few low tier attractions.And what of that 5% that would be ok with what's left, knowing the limitations? I just watched a Tim Tracker video where he knowingly bought G+ at Epcot and would only be doing 2 or 3 low-tier attractions.
In this situation, is it better to warn off the 95% but still allow the 5% to do what they want, or keep the 5% from doing what they want to automatically block the 95%?
-Rob
If you think this is the system, I think you are mistaken. This is just a stepping stone to another system. Disney is thinking two or three steps ahead. GLet's hope they make tweaks to the system. It's obviously a broken system..
Just completed our annual WDW trip (3/27-3/29). Park hopper tickets, 4 parks in 3 days. Although I hate paying for it and it has its quirks (sliding return times) I actually kind of prefer it to FP+. You absolutely have to be ready and on your phone at 7 each morning and rope dropping is a must. Purchased 1 ILL each day. Managed to complete every ride at HS. Every ride at Epcot. Everything but Dinosaur and TriceraTop Spin (EE closed) at AK and everything but JC at MK.
LL’s per day
4 - HS
0 - AK (stacked LL’s for PM at Epcot)
4 - Epcot
6 - MK
I think I liked it because it brought back some spontaneity to the day. I did find myself criss-crossing the parks more than I care to do normally but you CAN do it all with the new system
Doesn't sound like you liked it at all. You just rationalized it.Just completed our annual WDW trip (3/27-3/29). Park hopper tickets, 4 parks in 3 days. Although I hate paying for it and it has its quirks (sliding return times) I actually kind of prefer it to FP+. You absolutely have to be ready and on your phone at 7 each morning and rope dropping is a must. Purchased 1 ILL each day. Managed to complete every ride at HS. Every ride at Epcot. Everything but Dinosaur and TriceraTop Spin (EE closed) at AK and everything but JC at MK.
LL’s per day
4 - HS
0 - AK (stacked LL’s for PM at Epcot)
4 - Epcot
6 - MK
I think I liked it because it brought back some spontaneity to the day. I did find myself criss-crossing the parks more than I care to do normally but you CAN do it all with the new system.
I am happy to be mistaken because this “steppingstone” Disney is charging folks for is not working…If you think this is the system, I think you are mistaken. This is just a stepping stone to another system. Disney is thinking two or three steps ahead. G
Doesn't sound like you liked it at all. You just rationalized it.
What about a company that actively and publicly hates its customers?A company with any sense of customer service or guest satisfaction would just suspend sales.
Well, not *all* of it’s customers. Only the fat ones who eat too much and should really get smaller portions.What about a company that actively and publicly hates its customers?
Well, sometimes even Disney gets it right.Well, not *all* of it’s customers. Only the fat ones who eat too much and should really get smaller portions.
We did a quick princess half marathon trip a few months ago. First use of genie+. We tried it out so that I would know what to recommend for a big family reunion in a few months. Anyway, in the mornings all the waits were much shorter than posted. I'd say the lower end of your 1/2 to 2/3 estimate was the norm. In the afternoon, the waits were spot on. We thought they might be exaggerating waits in the morning to increase genie plus purchases, but I really don't want to think they'd be that manipulative.Not really, based on personal experience. Lines moved constantly and what Disney said was an 90 minute line was usually 1/2 to 2/3 of that. It’s amazing how your mindset changes when you aren’t standing in one spot for 5 minutes at a time.
We thought they might be exaggerating waits in the morning to increase genie plus purchases, but I really don't want to think they'd be that manipulative.
no, I have not been back to Disney since our last visit in Dec 2019. And, your description of the changes (and that of others) has me very concerned about future trips.At least you got the rides you wanted, if not at the exact time and day you preferred. Have you experienced Genie+ in conjunction with the park reservation system? You have little or no control over times except for the paid ILLs (if you can get them) - if you want a specific time compatible with the rest of your plans or with park hopping, you need to start working on it before 7 am each day of your trip and keep refreshing. Even then, you may get a time outside of the window you thought you were reserving. And if you don't get your favorite ride or it goes down on the day of your park reservation, given what we're seeing on the park reservation calendar, you may not get to change your reservation to try another day. Oh yeah, and unlike FP+ you get to pay for it.
Heck I could mostly only use it once per day.We bought Genie+ last minute when we visited Epcot and MK in late March. I had read about it previously, but did not know all the details. Biggest disappointment…you could only use it once per attraction.
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