Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[jpinkc]

The other thing with Genie + besides the 15 per person, is when EVERYONE is using it arent we just paying to Stand in the old FREE Stand By Line?????

 

[Marriedatdisney]

I really don’t understand the strategy behind this. If genie plus is almost all rides except two per park. And it’s $15. Then basically they jacked ticked prices by 15%. No new capacity, no better distribution of riders. The only thing that makes sense is that they do what the did with the Minnie van service. Double, then triple, then quadruple the price After a few months. But the consumer experience just blows.

 

[VJ]

Can anyone believe Disney spent time and money on 'Audio Experiences' as a paid perk in 2021??

they're just glorified short podcasts too

 

[Muffinpants]

I don't think they meant raising the posted wait times, but the actual wait times (i.e. by operating rides at less than max capacity)

Yes this.

 

[pixarprincess]

I have to assume the number of LL riders per hour will be lifted from how many they gave FP to. It’s the only way to ensure that people aren’t ed about paying for a line that isn’t actually shorter.

 

[Eeyorenot74]

Has anyone asked the question/know if the paid fastpass will start at park opening. If you are at the park at rope drop or shortly after opening would you now be behind a paid fastpass?

 

[VJ]

For those of you who are angered by this, please write to guest relations and let them know.

i'll get right on that, right after i finish making this petition

spoiler alert: if disney wants to do this (and believe me, they do), they'll justify it to themselves no matter what

 

[pixarprincess]

Has anyone asked the question/know if the paid fastpass will start at park opening. If you are at the park at rope drop or shortly after opening would you now be behind a paid fastpass?

Sounds like it since on site guests can buy LL a la carts from their room starting at 7 am.

 

[larryz]

Congrats, Bobs -- you just broke 60-some years of conditioning and nostalgia.

My Disney bubble has burst. You won't miss me, I'm sure.

I won't miss you either.

 

[erasure fan1]

Doesn't really surprise me. We are still in a pandemic where a lot of people haven't gotten to travel or have had financial hardships and here is Disney, one of the most profitable companies in the world charging people for something that was just free right before this pandemic started. They had to know they would be crucified, if they didn't want to be they would have given some kind of discount to resort guests

And the absolute best part is this is coming from a company who just slammed Scarlet Johansson for being greedy during a pandemic... The absolute double standard is hilarious and expected. Of course it really doesn't matter. Disney is going to continue on this trajectory even if the complaining is unlike anything we've seen before. I believe they truly think they can charge for EVERYTHING that was included before, and the gates will still turn.

 

[BaconPancakes]

And the absolute best part is this is coming from a company who just slammed Scarlet Johansson for being greedy during a pandemic... The absolute double standard is hilarious and expected. Of course it really doesn't matter. Disney is going to continue on this trajectory even if the complaining is unlike anything we've seen before. I believe they truly think they can charge for EVERYTHING that was included before, and the gates will still turn.

Chapek really is running the company into the ground. It would almost be comical if it wasn’t so sad.

 

[lentesta]

Within 5 days…is my guess.

right, @lentesta?

My big question is “With all the stuff that was incomplete in today’s news, why did we have to hear it today?” Like, is something worse coming and this is the distraction?

 

[larryz]

The Guest experience at WDW, what little was left at this point, is going straight there with this silly 'planning' service that in reality is a expensive shell game.

It has just become the "Guess Experience" at WDW... guess which rides are included, guess which rides you'll have to pay for, and guess how much you'll wind up paying for them.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

My big question is “With all the stuff that was incomplete in today’s news, why did we have to hear it today?” Like, is something worse coming and this is the distraction?

Passes?

…I assumed it’s just a relabeled version of Disneyland’s at a higher price…but I been wrong before.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Some observations from the 14 minute video:

Lightning Lane Include with Genie+

• Astro Orbiter
• The Barnstormer
• Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
• Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
• Dumbo the Flying Elephant
• Enchanted Tales with Belle
• The Haunted Mansion
• It’s a small world
• Jungle Cruise
• Mad Tea Party
• The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
• Peter Pan’s Flight
• Pirates of the Caribbean

Lightning Lane Not Included with Genie+

• Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
• Space Mountain

Removed

• Magic Carpets of Aladdin

Not sure on anything alphabetically after Space, so Splash Mountain wasn't pictured nor was Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid. I also believe Astro Orbiter would be a new addition to the "not-Fastpass" group.

 

[Eeyorenot74]

Sounds like it since on site guests can buy LL a la carts from their room starting at 7 am

Sounds like it since on site guests can buy LL a la carts from their room starting at 7 am.

don't believe fastpass was available for an hour or more after park opening, but that does not mean that the time slots for LL won't start then.

 

[larryz]

Please stop spreading falsehoods. There are TWO tier 1 attractions in the Magic Kingdom. Mine Train and Space Mountain. That's it. Two.

The list has been confirmed by @wdwmagic and @lentesta. Mine Train, Space Mountain, Test Track, Rat, Rise, Slinky, Kilimanjaro, and Flight of Passage. That's it. That's the list.

Which works great if (a) they implement this system tomorrow, and (b) you're visiting tomorrow.

But who on here honestly believes Tier 1 won't include Tron?

 

[jpinkc]

Passes?

…I assumed it’s just a relabeled version of Disneyland’s at a higher price…but I been wrong before.

I agree I think the Paid E tickets is where they are going to Hammer things. I am still soooo ed I am trying not to vent my spleen all over the boards.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Some observations from the 14 minute video:

Lightning Lane Include with Genie+

• Astro Orbiter
• The Barnstormer
• Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
• Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
• Dumbo the Flying Elephant
• Enchanted Tales with Belle
• The Haunted Mansion
• It’s a small world
• Jungle Cruise
• Mad Tea Party
• The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
• Peter Pan’s Flight

Lightning Lane Not Included with Genie+

• Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
• Space Mountain

Removed

• Magic Carpets of Aladdin

Not sure on anything alphabetically after Space, so Splash Mountain wasn't pictured nor was Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid. I also believe Astro Orbiter would be a new addition to the "not-Fastpass" group.

I assume Pirates is in the first group?

 

[NelsonRD]

I just called Disney and has a discussion on this.
I was told that charging for line skipping service is an industry standard. So.. There it is.