Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[HauntedPirate]

Less silly than the Safari, which is what was rumored initially.


Yup.

Though if I'm honest, I'll probably pay for TRON and Guardians once each.

True. It simply highlights the folly of trying to make people pay for rides in AK, because they’re aren’t enough “headline attractions” there.

I wouldn’t even pay for Tron or Guardians. I’ll wait in line once and call it good. The very concept of this IAS scheme fills me with contempt.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The very concept of this IAS scheme fills me with contempt.

Yeah of all the recent changes, it's probably my second-most disliked, behind only the removal of Magical Express. I'm pretty neutral on Genie+, and strongly pro-EMHH.

 

[Muffinpants]

Getting early entry daily (if you’re onsite) plus standby-only will equal shorter lines than once Genie escapes the lamp.

We're not huge rope drop ppl. But we have the extra evening hours at Epcot and mk. So I hope hitting AK later at night and just rope dropping our HS days will be enough.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

We're not huge rope drop ppl.

 

[Aib1996]

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does "3rd week of Oct" mean week starting Oct 10 or week starting Oct 18th?? We stay week of Oct 10th and REALLY don't want to stand in hours and hours of lines - hoping for Oct 10th start !!

 

[doctornick]

Very curious about Everest being in the lineup potentially. Seems silly to me.

The only ride at DAK that really makes sense is FOP. The other big rides all have pretty good capacity and generally tolerable wait times.

 

[pdude81]

Very curious about Everest being in the lineup potentially. Seems silly to me.

Maybe they want to get ahead of people complaining that they are paying for Genie+ and one of the rides they wanted to use it for is down (upcoming refurbishment). That would allow them to put it in the Genie+ lineup shortly after it returns as an "addition"

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The only ride at DAK that really makes sense is FOP. The other big rides all have pretty good capacity and generally tolerable wait times.

Rope drop will be interesting. Kilimanjaro Safaris can absolutely devour guests, but it's also on Genie+, so Genie+ buyers likely won't head there first thing.

 

[Purduevian]

Tough to be a Bug?

Nataride (Not a ride)

 

[HauntedPirate]

Yeah of all the recent changes, it's probably my second-most disliked, behind only the removal of Magical Express. I'm pretty neutral on Genie+, and strongly pro-EMHH.

I’m strongly against monetized FastPasses, so Genie+ gets a from me. Otherwise I can’t argue with you on ME’s removal, that was a bone-headed decision. EMH are good, without a doubt.

Can’t wait to see what they do with regular ticket prices next, after their 25+% increase of AP’s, plus removing the DVC discount on the Gold pass.

 

[wdwmagic]

does "3rd week of Oct" mean week starting Oct 10 or week starting Oct 18th?? We stay week of Oct 10th and REALLY don't want to stand in hours and hours of lines - hoping for Oct 10th start !!

Week of 18th

 

[Waters Back Side]

Come October it looks like the parks will be open until 10. I can't imagine staying in the parks until 10 by the time you get back to the resort 10:30 shower and unwind get to sleep by 11: 30 and then have to get up before 7 to plan your genie day --- no thank you

This is assuming you have to wake up at 7am to get the ride you want. There is nothing confirmed you will have to. You can make the first one at 7am but I fully intend to sleep until 9 or 930 and make my first selection for after 10am. You are going by the assumption all time slots will fill up quick for the rides.

 

[Waters Back Side]

I’m strongly against monetized FastPasses, so Genie+ gets a from me. Otherwise I can’t argue with you on ME’s removal, that was a bone-headed decision. EMH are good, without a doubt.

Can’t wait to see what they do with regular ticket prices next, after their 25+% increase of AP’s, plus removing the DVC discount on the Gold pass.

I dislike Genie + 2nd worst. Getting rid of Magic Express is terrible. Orlando Airport is joining the celebration for the 50th..but WDW is making you get and pay your own way there. Thatd sad and a slap in the face. By for the worst thing they took from us. Had Genie been Premier Access I would have ranked thst the worst. Despite no free perk for resort guests.

 

[pdude81]

Week of 18th

While you're in a giving mood, do you estimate DL is more like 2 weeks behind or 3+?

 

[ToTBellHop]

We're not huge rope drop ppl. But we have the extra evening hours at Epcot and mk. So I hope hitting AK later at night and just rope dropping our HS days will be enough.

Godspeed.

 

[jamos140]

Welp, my trip starts the Oct 23. Looks like Genie will change everything about the lines 1 week before I show up.

 

[rmclain73]

Week of 18th

What are the chances of Disney getting the Sh*t figured out and getting this out sooner?

 

[MrPromey]

It's also not always about adding more rides, but updating rides that are no longer relevant/popular. Epcot has major people eaters but they are no longer popular like before: Journey Into Imagination, Nemo, Living with the Land, Gran Fiesta Tour all have great capacity, but they aren't popular so that capacity goes to waste. Everyone wants to ride Test Track and Frozen but those have ridicously low ride capacity.

The last several times I was there, Gran Fiesta Tour was not able to contain its line within the pre-existing queue and I can't recall the last time there was no wait for Living With the Land.

Mind you, I can't recall Gran Fiesta ever having a 45 minute + wait but they also don't have the space in that pavilion to contain such a line without reducing retail space (which is a sin above all others these days) and Living With the Land is usually 45 minutes or less but I've not seen either with unused capacity in many years.

Nemo and (especially) Journey, absolutely - I'd say the whole Imagination pavilion is a waste. The image works was awesome, the current post show was crappy when it opened and it's now, just pathetic.

Not trying to argue that any older attraction couldn't benefit from regular and routine updates but honestly, the biggest problem with two out of those four you've mentioned is that they were actually significantly overhauled and they ended up with something that was less than what they'd started with.

I've no doubt that the original Imagination ride with no changes would be horribly out-of-date today and the hydrolators were past their prime when they pulled that plug but the problem with these current replacements is that they weren't that good to begin with and have thusly, aged way more quickly than their predecessors.

So there is a balance to be struck between building something quality that will be (please forgive me for using this term) timeless and knowing when it's time to update to keep something that isn't timeless, relevant.

Personally, I've seen nothing from current management over that last decade+ that suggests they have a handle on or a desire to be better at either as long as they keep revenue during their tenure up.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Come October it looks like the parks will be open until 10. I can't imagine staying in the parks until 10 by the time you get back to the resort 10:30 shower and unwind get to sleep by 11: 30 and then have to get up before 7 to plan your genie day --- no thank you-- I like the old system better.

So don't.

I'll be in bed by 9:30 and have no trouble at all getting up at 7 to plan my Genie day.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The last several times I was there, Gran Fiesta Tour was not able to contain its line within the pre-existing queue and I can't recall the last time there was no wait for Living With the Land.

Mind you, I can't recall Gran Fiesta ever having a 45 minute + wait but they also don't have the space in that pavilion to contain such a line without reducing retail space (which is a sin above all others these days) and Living With the Land is usually 45 minutes or less but I've not seen either with unused capacity in many years.

Nemo and (especially) Journey, absolutely - I'd say the whole Imagination pavilion is a waste. The image works was awesome, the current post show was crappy when it opened and it now, just pathetic.

Not trying to argue that any older attraction couldn't benefit from regular and routine updates but honestly, the biggest problem with two out of those four you've mentioned is that they were actually significantly overhauled and they ended up with something that was less than what they'd started with.

I've no doubt that the original Imagination ride with no changes would be horribly out-of-date today and the hydrolators were past their prime when they pulled that plug but the problem with these current replacements is that they weren't that good to begin with and have thusly, aged way more quickly than their predecessors.

So there is a balance to be struck between building something quality that will be (please forgive me for using this term) timeless and knowing when it's time to update to keep something that isn't timeless, relevant.

Personally, I've seen nothing from current management over that last decade+ that suggests they have a handle on or a desire to be better at either as long as they keep revenue during their tenure up.

There's also the very real problem that guests are stupid and don't know what's good. Chapek didn't pull Harmonious out of his , it was the direct product of guest feedback from people who didn't like that Reflections of Earth was "boring" and "not Disney enough."