Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[pdude81]

IIRC: Rise, WEB, Racers, and either Space or Indy (I’ve been getting mixed reports)

Also, I believe WDW’s final number is actually either 6 or 7

Have you any estimate as to when this might roll out in Anaheim? They announced both at the same time and said "Fall", but no lightning lane signs seem to be showing up on the west coast.

 

[G00fyDad]

It's September 16th. (you're welcome if you didn't know)

They can't possibly be starting this until 10/11 or later - because otherwise they'd be dropping it on people 2 weeks ahead of time? People need to budget if they are purchasing for a bigger family. Heck, even a smaller one.

This is getting kind of crappy.

You're assuming Disney even cares. They do not.

 

[mikejs78]

IIRC: Rise, WEB, Racers, and either Space or Indy (I’ve been getting mixed reports)

Also, I believe WDW’s final number is actually either 6 or 7

Any idea of what the 6 or 7 are? The obvious ones are Rise, Rat, 7DMT, SM, FoP... Beyond that, SDD? MMRR? TT? FEA?

 

[Patcheslee]

No need for some optional paid service to have a long lead time when none of it is scheduled, and not changing what people have already committed to do/lock-in. They could roll this out starting just days ahead. I'm sure they will give it more time just so people KNOW (and hence be ready to buy) but they don't need to have a long lead in.

Maybe it's intentionally being done like that so they have lower demand at launch than if people have time to prepare.

 

[pdude81]

Any idea of what the 6 or 7 are? The obvious ones are Rise, Rat, 7DMT, SM, FoP... Beyond that, SDD? MMRR? TT? FEA?

SDD would have to be one, and I'd guess Test track would have to be

I'd set it up as 7DMT, SM until Tron, TT, Rat, Rise, SDD, FOP if kept to 7. And honestly I wouldn't bother with SM or Rat as SM could just be part of the Genie+ and Rat can live with BG and then Genie+ after. When Tron and Guardians open, they slide into IAS without displacing anything.

 

[mikejs78]

SDD would have to be one, and I'd guess Test track would have to be

I'd set it up as 7DMT, SM until Tron, TT, Rat, Rise, SDD, FOP if kept to 7. And honestly I wouldn't bother with SM or Rat as SM could just be part of the Genie+ and Rat can live with BG and then Genie+ after. When Tron and Guardians open, they slide into IAS without displacing anything.

I think they've already said Rat was part of it. I could see them leaving out SM and TT in order to just slot in Tron and Guardians as you said... Or just have Rat and FoP in Epcot and AK respectively because those parks are light on attractions, and they also want to push G+.

 

[pdude81]

Well now. I wonder how this factors in: https:///2021/09/rise-of-the-resistance-standby-queue-disney-world-ba1/

Standby queue starting in a week

 

[runnsally]

Well now. I wonder how this factors in: https:///2021/09/rise-of-the-resistance-standby-queue-disney-world-ba1/

Standby queue starting in a week

Too easy to get a boarding group. Need the optics of a long line to drive LL spend.

 

[Patcheslee]

Well now. I wonder how this factors in: https:///2021/09/rise-of-the-resistance-standby-queue-disney-world-ba1/

Standby queue starting in a week

Maybe they can't fully integrate the Genie without a temporary pause to the VQ beforehand? Any technology wizards out there know?

 

[Ayla]

Well now. I wonder how this factors in: https:///2021/09/rise-of-the-resistance-standby-queue-disney-world-ba1/

Standby queue starting in a week

I think there are two factors at play here ~ tech issues with the virtual boarding group and Genie+, and building up a false demand for LL.

 

[mikejs78]

I think there are two factors at play here ~ tech issues with the virtual boarding group and Genie+, and building up a false demand for LL.

I don't think there is much difference with VQ vs standby when it comes to LL.

 

[Ayla]

I don't think there is much difference with VQ vs standby when it comes to LL.

Standby requires very little tech, while VQ uses a lot. I think they're having issues with both VQ and Genie+ being online at the same time.

 

[mikejs78]

Standby requires very little tech, while VQ uses a lot. I think they're having issues with both VQ and Genie+ being online at the same time.

I don't think that's it.. They are adding it for Rat on October 1. It's probably more likely that right now boarding groups aren't needed as they've been available throughout the day.

 

[pdude81]

I don't think that's it.. They are adding it for Rat on October 1. It's probably more likely that right now boarding groups aren't needed as they've been available throughout the day.

Boarding Groups don't have specific return times though and IAS is scheduled. They either need to change the BG process to scheduled entry times or integrate two things that are not alike. Plus sharing the overall ride capacity among these two systems.

 

[mikejs78]

Boarding Groups don't have specific return times though and IAS is scheduled. They either need to change the BG process to scheduled entry times or integrate two things that are not alike. Plus sharing the overall ride capacity among these two systems.

Right but my point is they are doing it for Rat already, so why not Rise?

 

[Patcheslee]

Right but my point is they are doing it for Rat already, so why not Rise?

Lack of processor speeds? Maybe they know the current system can't handle multiple boarding groups.

 

[pdude81]

Right but my point is they are doing it for Rat already, so why not Rise?

They're doing boarding groups right now? I thought it was just preview times and then standby until 10/1

 

[flynnibus]

I think Disney is just setting up Standby because for the first time since opening... the Ride isn't saturating the boarding group model.

I bet standby goes away as soon as the crowds return.

 

[DisneyDodo]

Boarding Groups don't have specific return times though and IAS is scheduled. They either need to change the BG process to scheduled entry times or integrate two things that are not alike. Plus sharing the overall ride capacity among these two systems.

The lack of return times for BGs would make it easier to integrate since they could just work around the IAS bookings.

 

[DisneyDodo]

Perhaps they know the BG system isn’t so popular and they don’t want to force guests to use it for 2 rides?

Or it could just be that with the anticipated attendance increase for the 50th, they need the RotR queue to hold a few thousand guests to alleviate the crowds.