Me thinks I read it correctly.
Hindsite is always 20/20. But I'm not jealous of DVC buyers in 2001. Amazon stock, yes, DVC no.
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Hindsite is always 20/20. But I'm not jealous of DVC buyers in 2001. Amazon stock, yes, DVC no.
Chip Chipperson
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We had points left from last year that we banked to use this year. Most years, we book at least 1 of our stays in a DVC studio rather than doing all Villas. Thanks to the pandemic forcing us to cancel a planned Fall 2020 trip, we had some points to play with. Even if you double up on the dues for 2 years to make the comparison, we're talking around $2,300 in dues vs. approximately $5,900 + tax.
Whether or not you think the rooms are worth what they charge is a subjective matter - but if you like staying there and think the rack rate (or even the discounted cash rate) is too high, then DVC is a good option because you will pay less over time to stay in the rooms you enjoy but think are overpriced.
Edit to Add: And that $5,900 isn't even getting you a comparable room at AKL since the price I quoted was for a studio and I booked a 1-bedroom Villa. A full kitchen, wash/dryer, spa tub, large dining table, and a full living room separate from the bedroom for less money than a studio? Yeah, I'll take the 1-bedroom Villa any chance I get.
Patcheslee
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We just happened to have a trip for a week after FoP opened, it wasn't the reason we went. The only thing it changed was our plans for AK day. Most recent trip had hopes for Space 220 restaurant but not a requirement. And missed Galaxy Edge opening by 2 months as our most recent visit. At this point it seems more financially reasonable for us to put off visiting again until a few of the current rides under construction have opened. Tron is my peak interest, but if not for other rides I haven't been on, it alone wouldn't be worth a trip. One of the biggest annoyances for me is we still haven't gotten to ride the full circuit on the MK train since we first visited.
pdude81
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I believe the person he's quoting said he had 5 nights in Savannah 1BR and 5 nights in OKW 1BR with points left over and owns 175. Unless he forgot to mention that it took 2 use years worth of points to accomplish this.
Parker in NYC
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Aww, shucks. I’d hate to be normal!
MickeyLuv'r
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Uh, no. I'm just laughing!
DisneyDreamer08
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Do we know yet if you can get multiple LL for the same ride? Like can I ride Haunted Mansion twice in a row with LL if I wanted to?
Also do we know how long the return window is?
Also do we know how long the return window is?
Chip Chipperson
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Yes, I realized afterwards that I forgot to say that I had some points banked from the prior Use Year. The 2 trips took 291 points and we had more left over to bank for next year. The math still favors using DVC points for a room over cash, though. We paid around $2,300 in dues spread over 2 years and would have spent over $6,000 after taxes to get the same OKW room and an inferior AKL room.
Chip Chipperson
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I don't think they have specified either way. I would think the window would be the same 1-hour window as FP+, though.
MickeyLuv'r
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That would be a nice option (for those who buy it).
Somehow I don't think that will happen, at least not back to back riding the same attraction. (IMO, odds are higher they might let you get HM once in the AM and once in the PM hours.)
With WDW's prior paid FP option (the quietly offered CL 3 paid FP), there were no tiers, but also no double booking. I mean, AK, Epcot, and HS don't really even have 6 good FP, or didn't at the time. So the only way they were going to sell any was if people could book both FoP and the Safari, but it was still a limit of no doubles, and only one FP per hour.
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runnsally
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I’d wager you’ll be able to book whatever genie+ ride is available at a given time including repeat rides the same day.
MickeyLuv'r
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Maybe two rides on Dumbo? and Philarmagic! You'll get bonus passes for Philarmagic, for certain.
I see Genie popping up again and again to ask if you want to see Philarmagic.
I'm far less optimistic you'll be able to ride Tron twice in a row in the first 6months it is open.
Patcheslee
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If it's also supposed to suggest nearby attractions, I see Hall of Presidents and Liberty Boat being recommended when around HM to distract someone from more LL bookings.
nickys
Premium Member
I’m certain Tron will use boarding groups and the $$$ option just like Rise, and for at least a year. So no standby or Genie+ option.
KrzyKtty
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I'm sure you're right, but I still think it would be a poor decision on the parks part. It seems like boarding groups should be for those rides that do not move people quickly through them. Or the ones with technical complications. Tron is a roller coaster. A fun roller coaster, but still a roller coaster. They traditionally move people through pretty quickly. I'm not sure I get the point in using boarding passes on this one.
nickys
Premium Member
I think they’ll use BGs for the shiny new rides going forward.I'm sure you're right, but I still think it would be a poor decision on the parks part. It seems like boarding groups should be for those rides that do not move people quickly through them. Or the ones with technical complications. Tron is a roller coaster. A fun roller coaster, but still a roller coaster. They traditionally move people through pretty quickly. I'm not sure I get the point in using boarding passes on this one.
Using BGs on Tron makes more sense than using them on the Remy ride.
KrzyKtty
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I honestly don't know that much about the Remy ride but I figured the tracklist technology might mean the ride will break down often enough due to technical difficulties that the boarding passes made sense. Kind of like RotR.
nickys
Premium Member
I know there was a breakdown during previews, but the ride is a clone of the one at DLP that’s been running for 7 years. Haven’t heard that it’s unreliable.
123mart123
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For previous discussion about Disney Genie, see the original thread - Disney Genie digital assistant app coming to Walt Disney World and FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
This is the new thread as of August 18 with confirmed details.
Disney Genie launch announcement
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Your most frequently asked questions about the new Disney Genie service coming to Walt Disney World.
GENIE+ just feels too much like the fox guarding the hen house.
sure it’s a money grab….but it’s a peculiar and challenging one for them.
@lentesta‘s Touring plans / Lines APP is an independent paid service that allows you to navigate the Disney parks system as they exist. The product works and is trusted and effective. I think it helps that it is independent and a flat fee service.
GENIE+ seems to be filled with upsells…but worse, Disney can manipulate the system to drive you to their paid system…and on top of that manipulate pricing at the same time.
how much capacity will be free versus reserved for paid LL? Will that be static or dynamically adjusted?
This has a huge potential to be a focal point of people’s experience/frustration At the parks.
I can’t see this lasting long term.