Fido Chuckwagon
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SSE being past 8 pm at 11:30 am seems really terrible. This is. A low crowd day. Availability didn’t go this fast under fastpass day of, I don’t get it.SSE is bast 8pm
SSE being past 8 pm at 11:30 am seems really terrible. This is. A low crowd day. Availability didn’t go this fast under fastpass day of, I don’t get it.SSE is bast 8pm
Removing the character meet and greets is a real head scratcher. That’s a lot of capacity they just took out of the system, especially in MK.It strongly resembles FP+, with the notable exceptions of the LLSP attractions. Beyond the addition of more options to book - like the meet and greets, I personally would be surprised to see major changes to it. JMO.
SSE being past 8 pm at 11:30 am seems really terrible. This is. A low crowd day. Availability didn’t go this fast under fastpass day of, I don’t get it.
Every blogger, YouTuber, lifestyler, and power user on the planet was there today.Regarding the 3 - you're assuming perfect usage for everyone. It easier to get more LLs per person now which is why you're seeing them get booked. There may be a higher adoption rate because it's the first day. Who knows.
Standby lines would move faster but there would be more people in them. You wouldn't increase the number of attractions the average guest gets to experience in a given day because you've done nothing to change capacity.I’m not the first to say this - get rid of all express lines. Imagine that - one line into the attraction which continually moves. Yeah, they will be a significant loss of revenue but guests may be happier and happier guests may spend more. Eh… but what do I know.
Maybe that could make an impact at a party at one park, but across all 4 parks at WDW on what is otherwise a low crowd day at a time when WDW is seeing extremely low summer crowds?Every blogger, YouTuber, lifestyler, and power user on the planet was there today.
I agree with this. When my kids were little, we would regularly prebook both sides of Fairytale Hall in the FP+ days. That was literally their #1 priorityRemoving the character meet and greets is a real head scratcher. That’s a lot of capacity they just took out of the system, especially in MK.
Maybe that could make an impact at a party at one park, but across all 4 parks at WDW on what is otherwise a low crowd day at a time when WDW is seeing extremely low summer crowds?
What’s the DAS factor in that timeline? Aren’t the recent changes to that program expected to change capacity?
I think people massively overestimate how many social media people are at the parks, there are nowhere near enough of them to impact LL availability.I too am skeptical the Disney influencers are to blame for the same day availability today. Surely their presence plus the crowds during a fairly slow time of year shouldn’t be worse than the crowds in general at a busier time.
I wasn’t watching AK, but anything worthwhile (and some things not so worthwhile) seemed to sell out very quickly across the other 3 parks. To me that seems more of a system inventory issue, not a concentration of influencers. We shall see.
If that's the case, how can they change that. Adding more availability isn't going to solve anything. What will happen is many will get upset that they paid for short waits and ended up with longer waits like in the FP+ days.I too am skeptical the Disney influencers are to blame for the same day availability today. Surely their presence plus the crowds during a fairly slow time of year shouldn’t be worse than the crowds in general at a busier time.
I wasn’t watching AK, but anything worthwhile (and some things not so worthwhile) seemed to sell out very quickly across the other 3 parks. To me that seems more of a system inventory issue, not a concentration of influencers. We shall see.
I think people massively overestimate how many social media people are at the parks, there are nowhere near enough of them to impact LL availability.
If that's the case, how can they change that. Adding more availability isn't going to solve anything. What will happen is many will get upset that they paid for short waits and ended up with longer waits like in the FP+ days.
They could remove the overlap so people can’t hold three LL for the same time slot.If that's the case, how can they change that. Adding more availability isn't going to solve anything. What will happen is many will get upset that they paid for short waits and ended up with longer waits like in the FP+ days.
Today, for one day only, this was not a low crowd day.Maybe that could make an impact at a party at one park, but across all 4 parks at WDW on what is otherwise a low crowd day at a time when WDW is seeing extremely low summer crowds?
I'm using a broad definition of "lifestyler."I think people massively overestimate how many social media people are at the parks, there are nowhere near enough of them to impact LL availability.
It’s the same per ride but it is less overall, as they removed a number of attractions.Exactly this. The ride capacity today is exactly the same as it was yesterday with Genie+. If that system had plenty of capacity then so will this. The only way there’s an issue is if more people buy it, but if everyone thinks it sucks and is unhappy with it then we shouldn’t see that happen.
The meet and greets? Were rides removed?It’s the same per ride but it is less overall, as they removed a number of attractions.
But the thing is, if there is limited availability- especially relatively early on the day - it is because plenty of people already have bought LLMP and booked rides. So Disney is probably totally cool with that even if some people balk at buying it day of.Correct - which is better than people buying, then not seeing it, and complaining to guests services
If this really hampers sales (total $) then they will either have to add capacity or increase the price
This is exactly how I feel and I think gsat numbers are going to plummetThis system is worse for locals, worse for off-site guests, and worse for many on site guests go into parks later in the day (stacking).
The only people who could benefit are on site guests that go to parks in the morning. And even then today wasn't great for booking 4th and subsequent FPs.
All that so people wouldn't have to wake up at 7 to book something and maybe could save a few steps walking. We'll still be on phones a lot refreshing and looking for better times for 4th and subsequent booking, so the whole "be on one's phone less" is mostly nonsense.
Yep. Disney just boiled up a big pot of Slow Frog Stew. Get a bowl at Tiana's for $34.99.Soooo... we're back to FP+ that you now have to pay for, plus you have the option now to also pay for a spot in line. And this is seen as acceptable by many.
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