SamusAranX
Well-Known Member
They closed at 9, and had either EMH or AH, I’m not sure which. Neither (events) of which we were eligible for so the app wouldn’t have known that
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
- Thread starter wdwmagic
- Start date
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
Thanks, with point 2, if it is the time to the ride vehicle, some of the new attractions with long pre-shows might be skewing the data for G+ vs FP+. Still amazing that you have data to go back to when a new question pops up!
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Okay then extremely odd agreed
bmr1591
Well-Known Member
While an issue, it’s not even close to the main perpetrator. At one point, Disney needs to take the one day PR hit, let news channels find something more interesting to talk about, then move on making the parks better for all guests. There’s too much abuse.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Everyone says DAS abuse is real yet can provide no proof to why it is real… to what degree do people feel DAS is being abused. Im curious what people feel is considered abuse & with that being said that % is really the reason parks are the way they are?!? Disney is the biggest destination of its kind and is very friendly to people with needs. So at any given point you will have a major need for DAS users. Is it getting abused? Of course im sure it is just like almost everything else in life but my guess is maybe 10% of users dont need it and are stretching it. I really dont know but again these are all Disney policies and if Disney really wanted to. They can easily see the DAS use and see who is actually abusing the system and imo if they felt that number has gotten out of control then they would do something.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
Agreed. IMO it's so much abuse but with Genie+ costing money more people that were eligible for DAS are using it than when FP+ was around.
IMO there is no easy solution that won't cause a big PR problem. The problem is too many people are using a system that it can't support
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Exactly and i would love to know how many people who have DAS still buy Genie+ and ILL. I know i do and everyone else i know does as well granted my sample size is small but they are still getting my money. Sadly i admit that
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
It's probably a lot that do. I'd imagine with FP+ many didn't have DAS as well. They are in a pickle right now. The only solution is to get the number of guests using the system down.
No matter what they do the PR will be a nightmare.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Or solve the problem by simply adding more capacity more park hours proper staffing more entertainment a night parade just to name a few…. And again this PR “nightmare” should be NON existent because anyone who legit needs DAS for whatever reason should EMBRACE Disney looking to potentially crack down. Im sick of the entire privacy bs that we live by. Im sorry if you need DAS you should have to prove it in some way shape or form and should NOT be offended by doing so in a one on one Zoom call or in person at city hall & if you want privacy im sure Disney would provide it…
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
I wasn't talking about PR nightmare necessarily for DAS. Raising the price of Genie+ to price people out so less use it would help too. They do that than those people will stop going. We all know new attractions aren't coming any time soon.
mikejs78
Well-Known Member
Disney has a reputation of being very disability-friendly - not just with DAS, but a whole host of areas. They don't want to impact that reputation while figuring out a way to weed out the abusers of the system.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Do you really believe there is a number that will “price” people out? I personally do not and when it does all that happens is those people are now in the regular line
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
Let’s be honest, DAS isn’t “free genie+,” DAS is significantly superior to Genie+. You can grab any ride you want, including the ILL$, and it’s not based on whether they have distributed the passes for the day. I don’t understand why Disney felt the need to add 3 ride preselects **on top of** the regular return times, that’s just insanity to me, and has to be driving some of the LL saturation we are seeing.
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
I mean, they could avoid the PR nightmare entirely by just bringing back a free fastpass system, but of course they would never do that.
mikejs78
Well-Known Member
Well, they can't now. Wall street would throw a tantrum.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
I believe there is but what they’ve created now and for some of those who get priced out of paying for G+ will just decide it isn’t worth going to wdw at all then. We are already starting to see some of that.
Frustration in the amount of work and extra money it takes to really experience all they want while they are there.
LittleBuford
Well-Known Member
It’s been interesting to witness the swell of nostalgia for FP+, which, only a couple of years ago, few posters here had anything kind to say about.
PREMiERdrum
Well-Known Member
From the frontlines, it appears to me that the prolonged downturn in their package bookings is more in the reduced benefits and increased hassle than the price gouging alone. They used to be able to balance above-market pricing with enough benefits and extras to allow their guests to justify the expense. These diehards were great ambassadors and were able to help maintain the aspirational nature of a Poly or GF vacation, which made others feel better putting their own WDW vacation on that 28.9% credit card.
Under Iger, they squeezed until they ran out of juice.
Who would have thunk that ticking off your most loyal guests would have consequences? Word of mouth goes a long way.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Well i agree and thats another animal altogether … what is still to me baffling is i was there Thanksgiving week & it was crowded not crazy but crowded & i had tremendous success with Genie. I hate to
Admit it but i did. I had same success prior year in summer & just assumed it was because it was less crowded. I have used Genie 4 times now. 5 days & 3 10 day trips & outside the 1st year where i felt it was somewhat worthless. Ive been pleasantly surprised even with the fact you have to pay for it.