joanna71985
Well-Known Member
I think it would make sense to down the parade for a few days while the bridge gets fixed.
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Liberty Square bridge problems could reroute the parades
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LandBoatride
New Member
It's one thing for a thoroughfare to close down long-term because you are re-designing a whole land. Somehow, fixing a 20-foot stretch of bridge does not seem so drastic to me. I am no engineer or construction guy, but I simply can't imagine this project would necessitate such a long stretch of time that they would need to redo the parade route.
As for the very narrow bridge from Adventureland to Liberty Square, I cant imagine traffic flow on a peak day, though it is definitely better than nothing.
The other consideration is that the current parade route passes exactly zero attraction queues (in terms of major rides or shows - Splash mountain queue starts far away, and let's discount Country Bears or the early-closing Hall of presidents.) A parade route through Fantasyland would pass so many major attractions and parade viewers would potentially block queue lines to Peter Pan, Small World, Philharmagic or dumbo, and Pooh if not Snow White. Yup, the teacups queue starts over there too but could easily be moved to the other side of the structure. My point is at the current route, you have minimal interference between parade and queue lines. Additionally, how would you "get around" the parade if it went through Fantasyland? It is bad enough now in Frontierland with the extra dockside walkway available.
Again, I could see all of this hassle if they needed to redesign all the buildings on main street or something. But simply because of a small bridge problem? No way. If Disney can build a structure as complicated and unique as Spaceship Earth, then surely they can quickly fix a short bridge in a shallow creek if need be (or take the slow methodical approach of fixing while keeping it open all the while).
100 Acre HS
New Member
There may be 33 different "zones" but the current parades use 5. The gum sensors haven't been in operation in years. Castle float, the one every one makes fun of for being so old, barely fit out toon town, and the DDCT Villain float...yeah, they didnt even get it out of the HUB. The bridge is projected to take 4 weeks to replace.
Rob562
Well-Known Member
While you're correct about the current parade route not passing any major queues, I don't think you understood what the alternative route was that was described. The parade would NOT be going through Fantasyland itself. That would just be stupidly insane, let alone impossible for more reasons than I can list.
By "Fantasyland", they mean the little corner near the teacups. This proposed route would leave the Hub, go across the bridge heading for the teacups, skirt the teacups area and head back into Toontown Fair. So it would make as close to a straight line heading away from the Hub as it could.
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Well if they had ADOT (Arizona) fix the bridge it would get done in a timely manner, would have only a few major cracks upon opening, and (my personal favorite) would not quite line up with the road on either side.
As for OS/2 being a museum piece, that isn't exactly true. It is being supported by another company now (IBM stopped a while ago) and while I would never use it or suggest anyone use it for a general purpose office computer in dedicated applications it has some very strong points. It is much less of a CPU hog than Windows (what isn't), has a much more granular control over its multi-threading/tasking priorities (something you would need in a sound board) than Linux, is much cheaper to license than Solaris, and since it doesn't "change much" it has evolved into an extremely stable platform. Many if not most bank ATMs STILL use it, automated ticket machines for mass transit use it (especially in Europe), and it has been chosen by a lot of other niche applications.
For anyone who is interested, contrary to the clown who shows the guts of a parade float on a couple of the Travel Channel specials, DTMF stands for Dual Tone Multi Frequency.
As for OS/2 being a museum piece, that isn't exactly true. It is being supported by another company now (IBM stopped a while ago) and while I would never use it or suggest anyone use it for a general purpose office computer in dedicated applications it has some very strong points. It is much less of a CPU hog than Windows (what isn't), has a much more granular control over its multi-threading/tasking priorities (something you would need in a sound board) than Linux, is much cheaper to license than Solaris, and since it doesn't "change much" it has evolved into an extremely stable platform. Many if not most bank ATMs STILL use it, automated ticket machines for mass transit use it (especially in Europe), and it has been chosen by a lot of other niche applications.
For anyone who is interested, contrary to the clown who shows the guts of a parade float on a couple of the Travel Channel specials, DTMF stands for Dual Tone Multi Frequency.
disnyfan89
Well-Known Member
Ok so here is an idea! So instead of running DCT during this bridge rehab they run a different parade that is much smaller and about to become avalible for travel come march. They wait for Block Party to open at DHS and then transport DSMC over to MK and call it something like Disney Stars on Parade (or something silly like that) and run that parade through toontown/FantLand. Its small, it fits, it will keep guest from complaining and it wouldn't take much effort to do. The could play DCT music with that parade and just drop all the individual tracks from each float.
Mecha Figment
New Member
yes the parade will be rerouted when they repair the bridge which is starting to fall apart.
drew81
Well-Known Member
Maybe they will run something like the rainy day calvacade where they don't use the large floats?? I can't see how some of the floats are going to fit back by the teacups....maybe they will, but I think it will be a tight fit....Mainly the Castle float.
And I wonder what this is going to mean for the Pirate and Princess Party? One of selling points Disney uses is Disney's Enchanted Adventures parade is only for the party.
And I wonder what this is going to mean for the Pirate and Princess Party? One of selling points Disney uses is Disney's Enchanted Adventures parade is only for the party.
joanna71985
Well-Known Member
That's an idea.
drew81
Well-Known Member
I think it would work and would be better than nothing, but do you see Disney Mngt doing that? I could see them doing something like Rainy Day Cavalcade.
bugsbunny
Well-Known Member
Will there EVER be any bit of info that comes from Jim Hill that is posted on WDWMagic that does NOT have the snide comments about how truthful it might be?
I see more false and unsubstantiated claims come out of HERE then I do from his website. Yet the "in the know" inflated posting count forum dwellers here seem to bash him at every chance they get.
I can only guess that at one time some of the ol'time forum goers here had a run in with him or his people or something and since then, it has been perpetuated that he's evil and doesn't know a thing.
Just my .02 on the whole thing. I just knew before I even read the post that somehow and somewhere, it would be stated in some fashion that Jim Hill's information is sketchy at best.
I see more false and unsubstantiated claims come out of HERE then I do from his website. Yet the "in the know" inflated posting count forum dwellers here seem to bash him at every chance they get.
I can only guess that at one time some of the ol'time forum goers here had a run in with him or his people or something and since then, it has been perpetuated that he's evil and doesn't know a thing.
Just my .02 on the whole thing. I just knew before I even read the post that somehow and somewhere, it would be stated in some fashion that Jim Hill's information is sketchy at best.
disnyfan89
Well-Known Member
Good point! If it makes sence then Disney Mgnt will never do it! :lol:
kcw
Member
I don't see them doing that simply because I'm sure a lot of performers who were trained in DSMC are now trained in BPB, which would be running over at the studios. It would be hard to find enough performers that were trained in order to run DSMC
just a fyi
there is nothing wrong with the supports on the bridge. the boards the floats run over actully bow in the middle when they go over them, and when there wet they dont get any traction either so the tug has to hook up. so its not that big of a project, the little miss river bridge between lib and and frontier did the same thing, not a great sight to see either kinda scary and been getting worse the last 2 years.
there is nothing wrong with the supports on the bridge. the boards the floats run over actully bow in the middle when they go over them, and when there wet they dont get any traction either so the tug has to hook up. so its not that big of a project, the little miss river bridge between lib and and frontier did the same thing, not a great sight to see either kinda scary and been getting worse the last 2 years.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
That's an easy enough fix.
disnyfan89
Well-Known Member
But Im not proposing that they run DSMC. I think certin floats could easily be used instead of the regular float. So instead of the big giant castle float they could use the Final car that Mickey and gang road in for DSMC. Or you use the princess cars instead of the princess float. Little changes like that. :animwink:
bingie
Well-Known Member
Took the words right out of mouth.
But, there is pleanty of room behind the toontown gate for temporary float storage, even just to hold them until close when they could be driven back to pc after park close.
The permit has been filed for the rebuild and replacement for the liberty square bridge.
Rebuild and replace liberty square bridge.
Rebuild and replace liberty square bridge.
spectrodanny
Active Member
Or rather Peter Pans Out lol