Learned something new

GeoDonJac34

GeoDonJac34

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Just got back from a trip, Oct. 15 to 22. Plan on my first trip report soon, but for now a little story. There were nine in our party, and one morning, my brother in law and I decided to get up a little early, and head to DHS with everyone's KTTW card. We thought we would be the heroes and get everyone a fastpass for TSM since we would be at DHS later in the day. Well as many of you probably know, our families cards did not work in the fastpass machine. The CM informed us that you must be scanned in the park to get a fastpass. We never knew this. As we were leaving the park I said to my brother in law, that we should enter the park over and over with all the tickets, which we did. This was a little unnerving as some of the cards were kicking out, but we made it through. We proceeded to head to TSM for the fastpasses only to find SOLD OUT. I wish there was a picture of the look on our faces. As we walked away my brother in law said " I guess you can't get anything past the mouse". Later in the day the fastpasses we were able to get went to the DWs, while we went into Walt one mans dream. I know I may get jumped on for doing something deceiving, but that's okay, he and I will laugh about this for years to come.
 
WDW John

WDW John

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axle86 said:
* Learnt
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You wasted your first post on a correction? And a questionable correction at that? "Learned" is past tense for "learn". So is "learnt", although more rarely in the US. So I guess I'm confused.

Anyway, welcome to the boards!

geondon34 said:
We proceeded to head to TSM for the fastpasses only to find SOLD OUT.
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That's too bad, and after all that effort. It's not like you were trying to game the system for personal gain. I feel for you man.

Just out of curiosity, what time of the morning was it that all FastPasses were gone?
 
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MickeyPeace

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I didn't know that either about scanning to get fast passes. That's pretty awesome.

Question-how did you keep re-entering the park with different cards when a finger scan is required for each card?

More respect to Disney for preventing scamming!
 
R W B

R W B

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Wdwprince said:
I didn't know that either about scanning to get fast passes. That's pretty awesome.

Question-how did you keep re-entering the park with different cards when a finger scan is required for each card?

More respect to Disney for preventing scamming!
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The finger scan goes by the area of the finger and the amount of pressure used I'm pretty sure. It's not the easiest thing to use someone else's card but not the hardest either.
 
Master Yoda

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Wdwprince said:
I didn't know that either about scanning to get fast passes. That's pretty awesome.

Question-how did you keep re-entering the park with different cards when a finger scan is required for each card?

More respect to Disney for preventing scamming!
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From my understanding tickets purchased together will have the biometric data linked (ie dad can use mom's ticket, Sally can use uncle Joe's, etc) I have purposely mixed up our AP's or tickets to see what happens and they have worked with the biometric scans on.
 
Phonedave

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R W B said:
The finger scan goes by the area of the finger and the amount of pressure used I'm pretty sure. It's not the easiest thing to use someone else's card but not the hardest either.
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It has nothing to do with pressure. I wish the people in front of me would quit pushing harder on the scanner in a vain attempt to make it scan. All that does is distort your finger. Just place your finger on the scanner. It's not hard.

I learned (learnt) this myself a while back. I was at WDW one night when I was in Orlando for business. I had grabbed the little wallet folder thing with both my AP and my kids AP's in it. I ran one of my kids APs through the FP machine and it did not work. Only mine did. The APs had to be scanned into the park in order to work.


-dave
 
JillC LI

JillC LI

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Master Yoda said:
From my understanding tickets purchased together will have the biometric data linked (ie dad can use mom's ticket, Sally can use uncle Joe's, etc) I have purposely mixed up our AP's or tickets to see what happens and they have worked with the biometric scans on.
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Yes, but if a person is so excited to be at the first park they visited that they cannot recall which finger they used when entering the park the next day, that person might have trouble getting in - not that I know anyone who would do such a foolish thing! :lookaroun :D
 
GeoDonJac34

GeoDonJac34

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Just to answer a few questions, this all happened between 11:00 and 12:00. We were able to go in and out without a problem because it was getting very busy, and we would go through different turnstiles. Some of the cards kicked out for us. I had a little trouble with DWs. I pretended I was on the phone in case I got caught, I would say I was distracted and put the wrong card in. Her card kicked out and CM grabbed it without looking at it. Luckily it worked the second time. We wanted the fastpasses because we were having dinner at Cape May, and were walking back after dinner. We thought it would be nice if we all could get on then. There were extra magic hours that night. The CM at fastpass told us because it was such a hot ticket that they could not help us at all. I had done this earlier in our trip, when DS and I headed to MK with my brother in laws' and nephews cards. We headed out a little earlier then they did and they wanted a fastpass for something in Fantasy Land. There tickets would not work, but CM pressed the button in back, and gave us the passes. I guess for rides like that they are a little less strict. He never explained to us why they didn't work. It all made sense a few days later.
Will never try again though.
I told this story to a customer of mine, on my mail route, who have family in Disney area. They told me their son in law will put his card in and press the button in back to get extra passes. I would never do this, but was curious if it could be that easy.
 
Master Yoda

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geodon34 said:
Just to answer a few questions, this all happened between 11:00 and 12:00. We were able to go in and out without a problem because it was getting very busy, and we would go through different turnstiles. Some of the cards kicked out for us. I had a little trouble with DWs. I pretended I was on the phone in case I got caught, I would say I was distracted and put the wrong card in. Her card kicked out and CM grabbed it without looking at it. Luckily it worked the second time. We wanted the fastpasses because we were having dinner at Cape May, and were walking back after dinner. We thought it would be nice if we all could get on then. There were extra magic hours that night. The CM at fastpass told us because it was such a hot ticket that they could not help us at all. I had done this earlier in our trip, when DS and I headed to MK with my brother in laws' and nephews cards. We headed out a little earlier then they did and they wanted a fastpass for something in Fantasy Land. There tickets would not work, but CM pressed the button in back, and gave us the passes. I guess for rides like that they are a little less strict. He never explained to us why they didn't work. It all made sense a few days later.
Will never try again though.
I told this story to a customer of mine, on my mail route, who have family in Disney area. They told me their son in law will put his card in and press the button in back to get extra passes. I would never do this, but was curious if it could be that easy.
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Yes and no. The button is supposed to be locked by the CM working the FP machines. On the rare chance that you find one unlocked and get caught using it you might find yourself being escorted to the nearest exit. It is best just to leave it alone.
 
nitch

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Yeah, that holy button is for anyone who has a problem with their ticket for one reason or another and is CM only. When the CM operates the button they usually stand behind the machine with their key in it and then switch it back to normal operating mode anyway so it would be unlikely one would leave it in free-for-all mode! But you never know.
 
Kelsybelle

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geodon34 said:
I told this story to a customer of mine, on my mail route, who have family in Disney area. They told me their son in law will put his card in and press the button in back to get extra passes. I would never do this, but was curious if it could be that easy.
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:eek:Shut the front door!!!:eek: I couldn't imagine doing this and if I did (which I never would) I know I would get caught. I couldn't imagine facing the shame of being escorted out of the park! Enough with all these secret buttons and multi pass fastpasses uses. It's filling my head with naughty Disney trivia...:lookaroun
 
NYwdwfan

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Dad 2 M & M said:
My thoughts as well...and how did the rest of your party use their passes later in the day? Without the handstamp?
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I just had a total childhood flashback - remember those stamps that were visible with blacklights? I used to love trying to find it on my hand in regular light...many a monorail trip was spent staring at the back of my hand. Great memories!
 
mrsdanalind

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Kelsybelle said:
:eek:Shut the front door!!!:eek: I couldn't imagine doing this and if I did (which I never would) I know I would get caught. I couldn't imagine facing the shame of being escorted out of the park! Enough with all these secret buttons and multi pass fastpasses uses. It's filling my head with naughty Disney trivia...:lookaroun
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same here... I'd be the one busted with my hand on the button.. just not brave enough to risk it.. :p
 

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