Latest MK Rumors on Screamscape

[dox]

With respect to Timekeeper, I 've never been a big fan. I was glad when Timekeeper was added in the 90s as the various 360 movies that played in that theater were always a must skip in my family. But I've never seen the "re-rideability" (is that a word???) of Timekeeper. I wouldn't mind seeing something new and better there. Without a doubt though Timekeeper was an improvement to that spot and to add something less than that would stink.

As for COP, hmmmm, I have mixed feelings. COP was always one of my favorite attractions up until they altered it at about the same time as the 25th anniversary I believe. I greatly preferred the original WDW script and the WDW theme song "Now is the Time " (whatever the exact title is). I don't find it nearly as entertaining as it used to be. I still remember the first time i saw the revamp, one of my friends turned to me halfway through the show complaining about favorites scenes that were missing. That said, I really wish they would just fix it up a bit given that no other park has this attraction and walt was personally involved. But given the current distatste for AA rides, we can all kiss it goodbye.

As for the Jungle Cruise revamps - I really hope they add more than what was added at Disneyland. I would love to see some more interaction between the boat and the animals, e.g. boat being bumped by hippos, water actually hitting the boat, etc..

 

[Captain Hank]

Dreamflight?

If only. I loved that ride!

 

[ScrapIron]

Get rid of movie tie ins and you get rid of:

Swiss Family Treehouse
Flying Carpet Dumbo
Jungle Cruise (True Life Adventure Films, African Queen was inspiration for some of the original designs)
Splash Mtn.
Tom Sawyers Island (and, of course, the whole of Frontierland was inspired by Davy Crocket, et al)
Stitch
Buzz
Cinderella Castle
Everything in Toontown and Fantasyland except for Small World.

And of course, 3 after the fact:
Country Bears
Pirates
Haunted Mansion

Not much left.

You'd almost think that the whole Disney theme park thing was started by a film maker to provide a 3 dimensional representation of his film projects.

Come on, people. Read some books. Get some of the old TV shows featuring Walt. Subscribe to the E Ticket magazine. Stop embarrasing yourselves.

Cheers.

 

[disneyphilip]

As for COP, hmmmm, I have mixed feelings. COP was always one of my favorite attractions up until they altered it at about the same time as the 25th anniversary I believe. I greatly preferred the original WDW script and the WDW theme song "Now is the Time " (whatever the exact title is). I don't find it nearly as entertaining as it used to be. I still remember the first time i saw the revamp, one of my friends turned to me halfway through the show complaining about favorites scenes that were missing. That said, I really wish they would just fix it up a bit given that no other park has this attraction and walt was personally involved. But given the current distatste for AA rides, we can all kiss it goodbye.

They ARE fixing the CoP already!

And, no, there is NO distaste for AA rides and CANNOT kiss it goodbye, since the CoP is NOT going away anytime in the near future, so stop over-worrying and quit paying attention to such sources because all they do is spread mass hysteria such as this!

 

[joel_maxwell]

If only. I loved that ride!

me too. the speed tunnel was the coolest, especially to sit back and feel like you were going mach-3 then look to the side and see the vehicle going walking speed. talk about messing with your senses.

 

[sabian]

Tomorrowland needs to stay away from all this Disney movie themeing. Tomorrowland should retain the same philosophy set forth by Walt in 1955 with the opening of Disneyland. It concerns me that tomorrowland ios becoming an extension of fantasyland. Tomorrowland needs a cutting edge attraction with futuristic themeing. No more of this kid movie stuf. Put MOnsters Inc. in MGM somewhere, it would fit better there. What on earth do monsters have to do with tomorrowland?......

 

[sabian]

I have no problem with movie tie ins, i am concerned with the loss of innovation. Alien encounter, like it or not, was original. If you are going to use movie tie ins, that's fine, but do not do it at the expense of originality. More Original attractions are needed. Big Thunder, Space Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean, Carousel of Progress, Mission to Mars, If you had wings, Jungle Cruise, Country Bears, The Haunted Mansion. These were all original disney attractions, not based on movies, although some movies became based on rides. Bottom line is, i am not complaining, i love everything about WDW. The thing for me is that my favorite attractions tend to be the originals. I just hope that imagineering is allowed to maintain its originality in Tomorrowland. I am hopeful, that each of the Magic Kingdom's themed lands remain faithful to their original ideals.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

I think the key here is that Walt's use of movie-tie-ins was meant to promote the film itself. However, the attractions were able to stand on their own. The only true movie-tie-in attractions were those in Fantasyland. Everything else was inspired by moreso than an explicit depiction of.

The problem is that all of the MK trends are towards children. I have read the books and one thing Walt hit VERY hard was that aiming toward children is a terrible business model. The Disneyland concept was created so that people grew up with the park and could experience it together. That does not mean that parents were able to ride it and vicariously enjoy it. It meant that they were able to enjoy attractions just as children were. I believe that is the key that is missing in many of Disney's current attractions. Thrill Rides will never be geared toward young children, so let them be. Design them to thrill adults and make warnings obvious (see Alien Encounter). If you make family rides, make them fun for everyone. Having these divisions between and within parks between "children" and "adult" parks just doesn't work. If you do that, WDW will truly become "for children" literally (and not for children at heart), and that will spell disaster for the resort as a whole.

 

[LongballMG]

disneyphillip,

name your source? or at least how this source knows this for a fact?

Thanks

Mike

 

[MickeyTigg]

No Movie Tie Ins?

i think id rather have new, innotive attractions rather than ones based on films.

I agree with the above post. Most of the attractions that were created for Disneyland were rides that promoted either movies or shows of Disney's on TV. It's just that most of those movies/shows were so long ago, no one remembers the tie-in.

Tie-in's create instant character recognition...story identification and a built in audience. They don't have to explain everything from the beginning for the guest.

 

[Crazy Harry]

In my opinion the whole rumor is a load of bologna.

Do you know how easy it is send in a completely fictional rumor to screamscape and have it posted.

I did it a few years ago myself, but I'm not saying which one.

 

[Slowjack]

I'm probably just being defensive here because I've always enjoyed the Screamscape site. But I wanted to point out that Screamscape's post includes this clear disclaimer.

Note that these are all completely wild rumors at this point with not a single second source to back them up as anything more.

So it's not as if Lance is running a disinformation campaign.

 

[Ghostbuster626]

I just hope to God they revamp Pirates of the Caribean.

 

[ms7479a]

I say move CoP to Epcot...PLEASE.

*shrugs*

Why not mut CoP where Wonders of Life was. They could completely re-theme the building with the theme of inventions and advances made is home-life in America over the past century.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Why not mut CoP where Wonders of Life was. They could completely re-theme the building with the theme of inventions and advances made is home-life in America over the past century.

I agree with that. Actually, I think it would do better for Innoventions, though. Put CoP as the gem overlooking the west walkway around SSE, move the successful Innoventions attractions into currently under-utilized space in Innov. East (build another story if need be), and translate Innov. west into Habitat 2.0 since CoP is mostly about innovations for the home. Add sponsors such as Sears, Microsoft, etc. to update/create displays with home innovations.

In general, I think the movement of CoP to any part of Epcot could be a huge step for old Disney fans and new Disney fans. It provides an anchor for a new experience at a park much more dedicated to what it stands for (since the history of innovation is just as important to EPCOT as is the actual innovation itself), and it frees up real estate in the MK. Granted, this would be a huge project, but it would be less than designing an entirely new attraction since it is more logistically difficult than creatively difficult.

 

[marni1971]

Put CoP as the gem overlooking the west walkway around SSE, move the successful Innoventions attractions into currently under-utilized space in Innov. East (build another story if need be)..

That has more Merit than you`d think; When built, the entire Communicore complex was designed to be expanded outwards - to the monorail loop if need be. Here is a photoshopped size comparison (I`ve placed the CoP on the most open piece of land, next to Innoventions East. Also on the WoL dome as an example, but I`d much prefer to see a WoL rehab and update)

 

[mitchk]

I would have no problem with them moving it to Epcot.Tomorrowland needs a new attraction. A good new attraction.

 

[JimboJones123]

epcot already stole mission space.

Movie tie in's rock.

I'm not saying thunder mountian should be themed to 'little patch of heaven' but it does make things more fun for the kiddos.. which is why the parks exist to begin with.

 

[imagineer boy]

Thank god Screamscape isn't a reliable scource. If they add Monsters Inc or the Incredables to Tomorrowland, I will personally slaughter all of the imagineers and MK execs. But, screamscape has been known for aweful rumors ( remember the scource called "The Monkey" who spread the rumor of SSE getting a huge roller coaster inside? ) so therefor, I will spare their lives.

 

[imagineer boy]

epcot already stole mission space.

Movie tie in's rock.

I'm not saying thunder mountian should be themed to 'little patch of heaven' but it does make things more fun for the kiddos.. which is why the parks exist to begin with.

Um, no its not why they exist. WDW is intended for families. Not kids.