Largest test to date of MyMagic+ will use all features including guest use of the MagicBand

muteki

muteki

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Dasnowz said:
I haven't read all of this thread but wanted to share what I found out that is supposedly current as of Saturday.

The number of fast passes will be limited to 3 per park per day. One park only per day. A limited number of passes will be available per ride and once those are gone they are gone. There is a very good chance day trip people will never be able to receive fast passes for more popular rides. There are going to be less fast passes given out but they will be spread out over a larger time of day. Also they expect that adding in fast passes to parades and such should reduce the number used on rides. Day trip persons will be able to access kiosks inside the park and get fast passes for the day from what is left. They expect fewer per hour fast passes and the upcoming GAC revisions to force more people into the standby lines but with less in fast pass side the lines should move faster. They expect this to be live in early next year.

This is what is being taught to CM who are involved with this. I was most shocked to find out that FP are being decreased while park attendance is going up.

There was also tips and tricks given to the CM to help to alleviate traffic jams at rides that they are supposed to pass on to guests who ask. Things such as when entering the park go left and circle around .
Most people rush to the right. We actually have been sitting in the mornings and watching this. About an hour after park opening most popular rides calm down for about an hour so that is the best time.

Like I said not sure how much has been posted but thought I would share as I have seen many questions about how many and how to get.

The one big thing I didn't like was that its a tap and go system. It does not just scan the band. It actually has to touch.

Paper fast passes will be gone. There is confusion about how those who don't have bands will get tickets I heard a couple of different plans but no one knows for sure.
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Really though there is not anything here that should come as a surprise．This is nothing different than what we have learned from the TOS or other sources over the past few months.

There is a lot of hoping and wishing that alternatives will be in place for day guests or for day-of-fp but at this stage I'm not buying any of that until I see it in writing. Expect the worst, hope for the best.
 
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Sneezy62

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Dasnowz said:
I haven't read all of this thread but wanted to share what I found out that is supposedly current as of Saturday.

The number of fast passes will be limited to 3 per park per day. One park only per day. A limited number of passes will be available per ride and once those are gone they are gone. There is a very good chance day trip people will never be able to receive fast passes for more popular rides. There are going to be less fast passes given out but they will be spread out over a larger time of day. Also they expect that adding in fast passes to parades and such should reduce the number used on rides. Day trip persons will be able to access kiosks inside the park and get fast passes for the day from what is left. They expect fewer per hour fast passes and the upcoming GAC revisions to force more people into the standby lines but with less in fast pass side the lines should move faster. They expect this to be live in early next year.

This is what is being taught to CM who are involved with this. I was most shocked to find out that FP are being decreased while park attendance is going up..
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This is the first notion I've seen that FP will be decreased in number. Any idea what the FP/standby ratio is now and how much it will change? It would seem that the ratio has increased ahead of FP+ rollout (just anecdotal reporting and speculation), if that's true will the decrease mean that there will be fewer FP+s for say Soarin' than in 2010 or 2011? Also you say spread out over a larger time of day so would this mean that FP lines will build from opening on? What about during EMH?

I think it's going to be very interesting to see how guests actually use this. A hard limit of three per day along with decreased numbers could significantly alter the speed the standby line moves, probably for the better at Peter Pan and for the worse at Haunted Mansion and PotC depending on actual use patterns.
 
articos

articos

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Dasnowz said:
I work at WDW and was in a meeting about this Sat. This is what we discussed as I played with the new band.

I cannot give more specifics. so please do not ask. I asked what I can say and pretty much posted it.
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It sounds like information is being misinterpreted within the training, or is being incorrectly passed down, as stating that day guests will be out of luck is not accurate. There will be instances where day guests will be unable to obtain FP's for popular attractions - especially during peak and holidays, but with the system limiting guests to 3 per day, 1 park per day (currently), everyone has a net reduction. People who purchase in advance will be able to plan ahead better and will have better access to the popular rides, but the system is built with an allocation of experiences left for day guests' use, also. There will be a total net reduction in FP experiences given out per ride per day, however. The intent is to try to spread the crowds and waits more evenly, in an effort to manage the ever-growing crowds, and to encourage people to purchase tickets in advance in order to plan their vacation in advance. It will offer guests a few more choices, though, which is good. The bands do not need to be tapped, but they do need to be close. In order to reduce misreads, the instruction is that they should be tapped.
 
Dasnowz

Dasnowz

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I said most of what you said about limited fast pass and times when day guests will not be able to access them. I also said the point is to spread people out better.

We were told and shown specifically they are tap and go. I will discuss this further when I go back in. They are teaching tap and go most likely to prevent misreads.
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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articos said:
It sounds like information is being misinterpreted within the training, or is being incorrectly passed down, as stating that day guests will be out of luck is not accurate. There will be instances where day guests will be unable to obtain FP's for popular attractions - especially during peak and holidays, but with the system limiting guests to 3 per day, 1 park per day (currently), everyone has a net reduction. People who purchase in advance will be able to plan ahead better and will have better access to the popular rides, but the system is built with an allocation of experiences left for day guests' use, also. There will be a total net reduction in FP experiences given out per ride per day, however. The intent is to try to spread the crowds and waits more evenly, in an effort to manage the ever-growing crowds, and to encourage people to purchase tickets in advance in order to plan their vacation in advance. It will offer guests a few more choices, though, which is good. The bands do not need to be tapped, but they do need to be close. In order to reduce misreads, the instruction is that they should be tapped.
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If my experience with Tap-to-pay is any indication it will probably go like this for FP:

CM: "OK, just tap your wristband on the Mickey"

Me: "OK" *tap*

CM: "Oh, hold on, let me turn it on, there now try again"

Me: *tap*

CM: "Oh no!" *reader crashes to the ground*

Me: "You know what, I'm just gonna go have a drink"
 
articos

articos

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Dasnowz said:
I said most of what you said about limited fast pass and times when day guests will not be able to access them. I also said the point is to spread people out better.

We were told and shown specifically they are tap and go. I will discuss this further when I go back in. They are teaching tap and go most likely to prevent misreads.
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Yeah - main point I wanted to underline was all day guests won't be out of luck. There is an allocation for day of. Wanted to make sure it's not being trained that there won't be anything for day of, and also to head off the avalanche of comments about to come. Thank you for sharing, also.
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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articos said:
Yeah - main point I wanted to underline was all day guests won't be out of luck. There is an allocation for day of. Wanted to make sure it's not being trained that there won't be anything for day of, and also to head off the avalanche of comments about to come. Thank you for sharing, also.
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Seems odd that they are training CMs for stuff that isn't going to take place till next year, given the turnover there.
 
Sue_Vongello

Sue_Vongello

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articos said:
Yeah - main point I wanted to underline was all day guests won't be out of luck. There is an allocation for day of. Wanted to make sure it's not being trained that there won't be anything for day of, and also to head off the avalanche of comments about to come. Thank you for sharing, also.
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Will the "day of" FP be paper or connected to something electronically?

Basically is a scenario possible where someone has their 3 FP on their whatever and can get paper Fastpasses?
 
Nmoody1

Nmoody1

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Most other theme parks offer the chance to pay for line jump privileges, I can't see why - at the heart of it - Disney wouldn't want to make money here.... They have figured out ways of squeezing money out of people in various other ways, it wouldn't be a real shock.... Money buys you everything - especially at Disney! That's why you don't get a monorail to the parks from the All Star Resort ;)
 
articos

articos

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Sue_Vongello said:
Will the "day of" FP be paper or connected to something electronically?

Basically is a scenario possible where someone has their 3 FP on their whatever and can get paper Fastpasses?
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The day-of FP+ will be electronic, tagged to your band or RFID ticket. Don't know if it will be possible to do both or not yet. I would expect if it is possible that it will be a limited time window.
 
katiekinzakat

katiekinzakat

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tissandtully said:
Seems odd that they are training CMs for stuff that isn't going to take place till next year, given the turnover there.
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Except that it is happening right now as we speak. As soon as testing gets in full swing people with magic bands or whatever will be entering our fastpass lines. Personally, I have found it incredibly frustrating because for some reason, I have yet to have my fastpass+ training even though my attraction has been seeing people utilizing magic bands all weekend (even though the test allegedly doesn't start for a few more days). Every time I am at return or merge I find myself praying to the ghost of Walt Disney that everything goes smoothly because I have no idea how to even begin to solve any problems without calling management. From my perspective, everything seems incredibly disorganized and I have no idea what's going on. Not a fan right now.
 
Mr Bill

Mr Bill

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One concern I have (among many) about this system is that it seems it will slow down the FP/Standby merge point of rides. Right now an efficient CM and competent guest can take a party's FP tickets and get them to the final portion of the line without stopping the party. Now, each guest will have to stop at one of two FP readers and scan their wristbands. Seems like it's gonna be a lot slower and prevent the line from moving smoothly. We'll see.
 
topher

topher

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I'm feeling lazy and don't want to read all 7 pages.
Somebody throw me a bone here...PLEASE :)

If you have an annual pass, can you request the band via mail or do you have to physically be at the parks to receive the band?
 

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