Large Piece Falls off Monorail - Being Evacuated

Driver

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You can only slam those plastic clips back in place so many times before they just don't catch any more. Amazing they worked as long as they did.
There have been many times I could have fixed something but I didn't..... that's why they have mechanics! And the mechanic doesn't do my job so we're all happy !
 

monorail81

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They used to let the cast members fix it. It's just a matter of resetting the clips and pushing back up. Then they stopped letting them do that so now they have to call maintenance and they have to come out and do it.
Seriously? I used to get little cuts on my fingers from the clips all the time putting them up, but I got those hatches put back up quickly. Now they have to call Maintenance? :confused: C'mon! There are certain things the CMs should be able to do on their own...
 

s8film40

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Seriously? I used to get little cuts on my fingers from the clips all the time putting them up, but I got those hatches put back up quickly. Now they have to call Maintenance? :confused: C'mon! There are certain things the CMs should be able to do on their own...
Yeah it was kind of ridiculous. I don't know for sure if they still require maintenance to do it, but I would guess so. I put those back up enough times that I could do it faster that most of the maintenance people anyway.
 

Goofyernmost

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Seriously? I used to get little cuts on my fingers from the clips all the time putting them up, but I got those hatches put back up quickly. Now they have to call Maintenance? :confused: C'mon! There are certain things the CMs should be able to do on their own...
And should do because they are part of a team that has a goal and that is to keep the customer (guest) happy. If they know how to fix something and it is a simple fix and it affects the overall image of WDW, then they should do it because they can. That is what separates the good CM's from the, "it's not in my job description" type of CM. Those CM's will never achieve anything there and can only hope that the next job they have is going to allow them to do the same attitude. It probably won't. If one isn't going to give a little extra, I'm just not sure why they should expect to be given any extra.
 

larryz

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And should do because they are part of a team that has a goal and that is to keep the customer (guest) happy. If they know how to fix something and it is a simple fix and it affects the overall image of WDW, then they should do it because they can. That is what separates the good CM's from the, "it's not in my job description" type of CM. Those CM's will never achieve anything there and can only hope that the next job they have is going to allow them to do the same attitude. It probably won't. If one isn't going to give a little extra, I'm just not sure why they should expect to be given any extra.
Amen. It's like taking the half-a-second to swoop over and pick up that little piece of trash that the CM with the sweeper missed.

Unless, of course, CMs have been INSTRUCTED to NOT attempt to replace the covers, in which case they'd risk a counseling and write up over reinstalling them.
 

Goofyernmost

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Amen. It's like taking the half-a-second to swoop over and pick up that little piece of trash that the CM with the sweeper missed.

Unless, of course, CMs have been INSTRUCTED to NOT attempt to replace the covers, in which case they'd risk a counseling and write up over reinstalling them.
The thing is that management makes a lot of rules that they don't want anyone to pay any attention too. What they do that for is to cover their butts if someone get injured while doing that. I never let stuff like that bother me, if I saw something I could do i just did it, but, today is a much more complex world and you are right, it probably is better to just leave it for those that get paid to take that chance.
 

Captain Neo

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This is the perfect excuse the BOBs have been waiting for to justify not expanding the monorail line. Probably wish they could just get rid of it all together.
 

Driver

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No corporate policy has really become strict on just don't touch anything that's not in your job tile. Disney is just a huge conglomerate with faceless rule writers and faces followers down the management scale. Work in a place like that and know ones wants to do anything not in the rule book. Classic union job.

I worked in a place like that once and short story. I knew how to do something right but a manager a head of me who was the son of the company owner had set company policy totally wrong on that subject because he was clueless. It was also illegal. A lady who worked there got all upset at me saying I know that is totally wrong and I should say something. I said no that's company policy and she got really mad. I went to clueless son saying she's yelling at me for doing things to company policy. Hour later she is doing a forced apology to me. LOL. My attitude there was whatever, take my money and look for other employment. That company sucked. Clueless son was removed from his position a couple of years later and moved to a less front line venture.
To my point it's not a matter of not wanting to do it. It's about doing something NOT in your job description and then getting reprimanded for it. I was told more than once. One time I was going to help an older cast member move an item with a hand truck. I could not because I had not been trained ! Yep a hand truck.
 
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Brad Bishop

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Amen. It's like taking the half-a-second to swoop over and pick up that little piece of trash that the CM with the sweeper missed.

Unless, of course, CMs have been INSTRUCTED to NOT attempt to replace the covers, in which case they'd risk a counseling and write up over reinstalling them.

For all of the instructions -not- to do something, you'd think it'd work to everyone's advantage to show a cast member how to do it properly and then show them, "If it doesn't stay up or a clip is broken, THEN call us (maintenance)."
 

hpyhnt 1000

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View attachment 216410 Welp, this monorail has seen better days...(taken 2 minutes ago).

Nothing a little duct tape can't fix! ;)

This maintenance technique was originated at WDW, DL improved upon it by using the painters masking tape so as not to damage the expensive paint job on the new monorails.

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Painter's tape works as well!
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Driver

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For all of the instructions -not- to do something, you'd think it'd work to everyone's advantage to show a cast member how to do it properly and then show them, "If it doesn't stay up or a clip is broken, THEN call us (maintenance)."
I agree but maybe from managements perspective where do you draw the line. In every case how do you get a person to decide they should not go any further. It becomes a judgement call and that is a huge variable.
 

Brad Bishop

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I agree but maybe from managements perspective where do you draw the line. In every case how do you get a person to decide they should not go any further. It becomes a judgement call and that is a huge variable.

I'd argue that you let people make mistakes rather than telling them not to think/do. You can fix a mistake. Once they turn off their brain because they're given an order, they're really not coming back from that (it's a bit insulting and to that employee it becomes, "not my problem; I don't care"). Ownership is far better.

We've all experienced this with the CSR for cable TV, mobile, whatever, who's not allowed to think but only allowed to go by the script. You try to tell them your actual problem and then you just get the next part of the script rather it fits or not. That's not a good customer experience.
 

Driver

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I'd argue that you let people make mistakes rather than telling them not to think/do. You can fix a mistake. Once they turn off their brain because they're given an order, they're really not coming back from that (it's a bit insulting and to that employee it becomes, "not my problem; I don't care"). Ownership is far better.

We've all experienced this with the CSR for cable TV, mobile, whatever, who's not allowed to think but only allowed to go by the script. You try to tell them your actual problem and then you just get the next part of the script rather it fits or not. That's not a good customer experience.
I get what your saying but what about the safety issue, in this case we are talking about snapping a cover back into place. I'm looking at the big picture, how do you make a blanket policy that can cover every situation and still have all the 4 keys in mind. I think the answer goes back to stay in your job description. I have a huge background in AC and I have been in a situation twice when the AC was acting up. I am not going to put my nose in there, to me that's begging for trouble. Suppose I fix the problem but cut myself in the process. You know where that would go.
 

Goofyernmost

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No one ever said that todays decision makers are not boarder line stupid and completely unproductive. They also wouldn't be able to differentiate between team building and oatmeal. One has to wonder what the future brings.
 

Brad Bishop

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It seems like some common sense could be involved like:

If the cover falls down, push it back up (here's how) and clip it into place. If it's a recurring issue, report it to maintenance.

Please don't fix the AC system in the Monorail nor change its tires nor repair doors nor try to separate the cars from the train.

I think the problem is that people want to draw a line in the sand which, again, stops your employees from thinking. If you have good employees they should be smart enough to know when/where to stop and you don't really need to define that line, if they do try to help but end up going too far then you tell them, "Thanks for trying but let's let maintenance handle that next time."
 

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