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Large Piece Falls off Monorail - Being Evacuated
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rob0519
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Even with proper maintenance, machines with moving parts will fail for any of multiple reasons. I agree, Disney has pushed these trains well past their recommended usage and life span.
However, if a part like that falls off of a train carrying hundreds of people, the first thing to do is make sure no one outside the train was injured (there were no injuries) and then alert Disney Security and yes, possibly call 911. No one on the monorail was injured, but it did have to be evacuated. What if this fallen part caused a more serious accident with injuries while this guy was standing around having someone take pictures of him and the part?
The last numbers I saw was that the monorails move about 150,000 people a day. It would take a lot of buses to replace the trains and move that number of people everyday, clogging up the roads even more. At some point, and I don't know when or what it will take, Disney is going to have to come up with a plan to replace those trains. With an annual profit of about $2.2 billion dollars in the Parks and Resorts division, they can't say there is no money, only that they refuse to spend it in the name of bonuses and shareholder value.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
I agree with you here however while reporting it is a nice thing to do, and what he did do, it's not really that guy's responsibility to take any action on behalf of TWDC. He would have been well within his rights to take a selfie with it, throw it back on the ground, and proceed to the park. Not the nicest thing to have done, but they aren't his monorails and Disney's not paying him for his time.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
You are assuming you are aware of all monorail incidents prior to iger. You are not.
I'm curious which 5 you are referring since iger though. The biggest one btw had nothing to do with maintenance or penny pinching but was human error on several levels.
rob0519
Well-Known Member
Totally agree. He could have kept walking. I'm not an attorney, so I don't know if a private citizen has any legal responsibility to report something like this to either the private company that owns the equipment (Disney) or the authorities. It's a moving train, not a broken door on a a restroom. Morally, however, in the interest of the safety of those around him or on the monorail, reporting it would be the right thing to do. Almost getting hit (10 ft. away) by a flying piece of metal would be a scary experience no doubt. I'm sure I would have taken pictures of the object or have someone else take one as did he just to document the event.
Lets ask our resident former monorail engineer @ford91exploder
21stamps
Well-Known Member
Right on. It does sound like there's quite a few monorail engineers here.. so hopefully one of them gives an answer.
Second question- how do we know that they don't get maintenance?
3rd question (repeat of my earlier statement)-
Why the heck would anyone call 911?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Did i say that was all of them? the monorail accidents i mentioned were the ones big enough to interest the STB now NTSB and that count has not changed in 32 years 4 major accidents occured since 2006 5 major accidents have occurred.something changed from having a major incident every 7 years on average to having one every 18 months or so
Are there more which are not of interest to the feds probably yes and since no major damage occurred its probably stuff like blown tires and damaged doors
But parts falling off sorry kids thats simply bad maintenance and parts falling off transport vehicles kill people all too often
Are there more which are not of interest to the feds probably yes and since no major damage occurred its probably stuff like blown tires and damaged doors
But parts falling off sorry kids thats simply bad maintenance and parts falling off transport vehicles kill people all too often
gmajew
Premium Member
And if it was just painted then they would have fixed any exterior issues at that time. This has to been the cause of something else.
NormC
Well-Known Member
Would not be needed as a gondola tower is already a grounded metal object that would act as its own lightning rod.
1. Guy tries to tell a CM about a part that fell off, goes nowhere.
2. Guy posts on Twitter, calling out a news organization about what happened.
3. Without knowing that the guy couldn't get a CM interested, two bloggers tell the guy to tell Disney.
2. Guy posts on Twitter, calling out a news organization about what happened.
3. Without knowing that the guy couldn't get a CM interested, two bloggers tell the guy to tell Disney.
A. One, our own Len, does so in a calm manner and tags Disney's twitter account along the way, causing official Disney to send someone to get it.
B. The other blogger, Robb Alvey, goes off on the guy for contacting a news station first without contacting Disney. (After all, the guy did not, on Twitter, indicate he contacted a CM at first and was rebuffed, at least, not on the tweet with the pic.)
B. The other blogger, Robb Alvey, goes off on the guy for contacting a news station first without contacting Disney. (After all, the guy did not, on Twitter, indicate he contacted a CM at first and was rebuffed, at least, not on the tweet with the pic.)
So, who's in the wrong?
1. Disney CM who didn't do anything when approached. And maybe Disney maintenance if this wasn't a freak accident, like a branch falling onto the electric brush bar.
2. Guy for announcing to the world on a tweet that he's contacting a news station about it without indicating he tried first to contact WDW through a CM
3. Robb Alvey for going off on the guy as a sign of a cultural apocalypse
4. our own Spirit who took Robb's bad behavior to go off on all bloggers even though our own Len did absolutely nothing wrong
2. Guy for announcing to the world on a tweet that he's contacting a news station about it without indicating he tried first to contact WDW through a CM
3. Robb Alvey for going off on the guy as a sign of a cultural apocalypse
4. our own Spirit who took Robb's bad behavior to go off on all bloggers even though our own Len did absolutely nothing wrong
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
A picture takes all of a second and would help document the incident.
davis_unoxx
Well-Known Member
I agree
The_Jobu
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mousehockey37
Well-Known Member
"Besides, they're tourists.... what do they know?"
- Rizzo
One of the best lines from the pre-show.
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WEDwaydatamover
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I've encountered cast members who couldn't care less in a serious safety situation.
I was on the Haunted Mansion about 15 years ago and something was horribly wrong with our doom buggy. The audio was off (nothing new) but the vehicle was scraping the track or ground and the ride was nonstop thumping and vibration and squeeling.
Immediately I clocked the vehicle number and reported it at the exit. We hung around to see if it was going to be taken seriously as we had good reason to believe not. They kept the Mansion operating as is. We lined up again hoping for a walk off experience at some point. Never happened. Scary when cast doesn't care. I hope these cast members are few and far between.
I was on the Haunted Mansion about 15 years ago and something was horribly wrong with our doom buggy. The audio was off (nothing new) but the vehicle was scraping the track or ground and the ride was nonstop thumping and vibration and squeeling.
Immediately I clocked the vehicle number and reported it at the exit. We hung around to see if it was going to be taken seriously as we had good reason to believe not. They kept the Mansion operating as is. We lined up again hoping for a walk off experience at some point. Never happened. Scary when cast doesn't care. I hope these cast members are few and far between.
davis_unoxx
Well-Known Member
This guy's videos are so annoying. His
Unfortunately now I don't think they are. I was staying at Disneyland Hotel in February and one of the mouse keeping women right in front of me was talking about how Disney was giving her no slack while she was pregnant. I think it's because of upper management mainly that is not run well, and doesn't treat cast right.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
I have no inside knowledge of Disney World.. but I think the overdramatic posts on this thread are probably unwarranted.
Our local amusement park has so many safety steps.. each night, and each morning before the rides open.
I would think that if a Cedar Fair park would do this, then it's probably safe to assume that a place like WDW would as well. Especially with the very limited amount of incidents that have ever happened at Disney World.
Our local amusement park has so many safety steps.. each night, and each morning before the rides open.
I would think that if a Cedar Fair park would do this, then it's probably safe to assume that a place like WDW would as well. Especially with the very limited amount of incidents that have ever happened at Disney World.