Kevin Yee- Airing of Grievances

[BigThunderMatt]

It's worth it. Still ridiculously worth the price. Best theme park value out there, and it's only going to get better with Transformers and more Potter on the way.

FlexPay makes it even more attractive. Especially if you're like me and got in on the FlexPay option before they started requiring a down payment. I've been an AP for 3 years now and my first payment, and every payment since, has been $19.52 a month. Free parking, no blockouts, and super-discounted HHN tickets? Yes, please.

Oh and all this month APs get into Wizarding World an hour early. BONUS.

 

[alphac2005]

It's worth it. Still ridiculously worth the price. Best theme park value out there, and it's only going to get better with Transformers and more Potter on the way.

We've dropped our WDW annual passes, WDW vacations, everything until the time comes again that they actually appreciate us as a "guest" and not a speck on their spreadsheets. We now have Universal annual passes, which we also had when lived in Orlando along with Disney, and it truly is a great value.

The annual pass with the parking included and no blackout days, which is the one we bought, is somewhere around $250 online for out of state residents and around $225 for in state residents. To think that the price has actually been increased significantly in the past couple of years and the fact that it still is a very good value says plenty. When we first bought them in the early part of the last decade, they were $99 each.

 

[Todd H]

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So we doing this?

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

An example of this is the obsession Al Lutz has with TDA canceling the holiday party over there. He becomes unhinged about that at times...whereas that's something that Kevin Yee might mention as one of his bullet points in an article, but he does not bemoan it over and over again.

Kevin Yee, thus, comes across as an expert on Disney that I enjoy reading...while Al Lutz comes across as an old man in a rocking chair ranting about things that sometimes matter mostly to him (with a little Disney insight thrown in here or there).

Al has inside sources at TDA, Kevin doesn't really have inside sources at TDO, so Kevin does a lot of postulating in his articles, such his attempt to come up with a "unified theory" for why things happen. Different styles necessitated by different circumstances.

I think Kevin's article are great in that they advocate for better upkeep, and Kevin made great points with regards to ride capacity at WDW's parks, i.e. closed attractions and decreasing hours.

When Al makes a point, it usually about a big issue, such as Al's desire to kill Avatarland and for the Subs to be replaced with something new. Early next year Innoventions will be demolished, so Al will have plenty to keep him happy, but can't help but think WDW's next big project is a ways off.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

Good article and everything is correct but the results are Walt Disney World attendance still grows.

WDW attendance is pretty much flat since 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_park_rankings

IOA attendance, and DCA, are where the growth has been.

 

[alphac2005]

Yep, but was just pointing out that the $164 pass becomes closer to $550 by visiting every other week.

The non-blackout, parking included pass is $250 for out-of-state residents and $225 for Florida residents.

 

[TalkingHead]

Oh and all this month APs get into Wizarding World an hour early. BONUS.

And special viewing areas for the Macy's parade and Cinematic Spectacular. Not as major as the early entry to WWoHP, but still a nice gesture.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

So we doing this?

I would like to but it's going to take more than 5 or 6 of us.

 

[BryceM]

The non-blackout, parking included pass is $250 for out-of-state residents and $225 for Florida residents.

Yep, and I'm in state so this is definitely a great deal.

 

[Todd H]

I would like to but it's going to take more than 5 or 6 of us.

If y'all get enough people then count me in. Perhaps a separate thread calling for people to participate?

 

[71jason]

And special viewing areas for the Macy's parade and Cinematic Spectacular. Not as major as the early entry to WWoHP, but still a nice gesture.

And discounts at virtually every shop and every restaurant, counter or table service, even those in CityWalk. Heck, even Starbucks. All day, every day, no $100 piece of cardboard required.

 

[WildcatDen]

It's worth it. Still ridiculously worth the price. Best theme park value out there

By "Theme" parks, I assume you are ruling out Thrill or Amusement parks, right. Of course, value is in the eyes of the consumer but I believe some Cedar Fair Parks would be deemed a better value. At KI a season pass will get you the main park and the waterpark for under $100 with free parking.

 

[BigThunderMatt]

By "Theme" parks, I assume you are ruling out Thrill or Amusement parks, right. Of course, value is in the eyes of the consumer but I believe some Cedar Fair Parks would be deemed a better value. At KI a season pass will get you the main park and the waterpark for under $100 with free parking.

Yes but KI is also only open on a daily basis, what, 3-4 months out of the year? When you break it down by month, you're paying considerably more per month for a pass that you will get less use out of. Disney sells a "seasonal" pass that is blocked out during major holidays and the summer, and even that gets you more use than an equivalent pass at Cedar Point or Kings Island.

Where's the benefit in buying a pass if there's no real time to take advantage of it when no one else is visiting? That's the advantage of an annual pass at a year round park. You are able to go on a moment's notice during a time of year when not necessarily a lot of people will be vacationing.

At Cedar Point or Kings Island, for example, no matter when you go it's going to be at least moderately busy, if not more so, because you're being forced to go at the same time as pretty much every day guest.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

If y'all get enough people then count me in. Perhaps a separate thread calling for people to participate?

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/frame-mail-wdw-article.857180/

Done & done. I placed this in the General Discussions section to possibly gather more interested people. I also didn't feel it appropriate to post it in News & Rumors; a bit redundant to me.

 

[unkadug]

You're welcome, my friend. Anyone who's a voice of reason on this whole questionable forum is a friend of mine.

The problem is Disney CANNOT listen to outside ideas at all and JT knows that.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

One Disney is going away!?!?!?

I have no problem with One Disney; they've just been picking the wrong "Disney" every chance they get.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/frame-mail-wdw-article.857180/

Done & done. I placed this in the General Discussions section to possibly gather more interested people. I also didn't feel it appropriate to post it in News & Rumors; a bit redundant to me.

Guess that sort of thing isn't allowed. Thread is gone.

 

[Sans Souci]

Guess that sort of thing isn't allowed. Thread is gone.

I would not expect much there, anyway. It seems if you expect the monorail or headliners to be simultaneously operational across parks, you have a sense of entitlement. I guess WDW is a charity now and we should be grateful for the crumbs we receive...

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Thread is gone.

Hey, thanks for the effort anyway.

At any rate, I'm sure the good folk at WDW are quite aware of Kevin's article and fan resonation. Erm, what am I saying...I mean of course aware of CountryBearFan's insightful shredding apart of Kevin, exposing him for nothing but the fraud he is.

 

[MickeyPeace]

One Disney gone? Yes!!
NextGen fail? Yes!!
New Management? Yes!!
New management in Epcot? Yes? Please?