Just scrap the Yeti?

Martian Crab

Martian Crab

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STARE INTO THE DISTENDED LOBE OF GREATNESS...repeat after me...The Yeti is working....the Yeti is working......
 
Figments Friend

Figments Friend

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Wow. Mr. Rhode is one groovy dude.

So....

...getting back to the Yeti issue now....

...i would pay money to see CMs in a gorilla suit, suspended from harnesses inside the Forbidden Mountain. Oh heck yeah....i would pay to see that!

They will need to have better insurance coverage then Tink though, so it might end up costing more then it would to just fix the original Yeti.

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Dinoman96

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Probably right.

Honestly....I think Animal Kingdom in general is just a dead park. There is hardly anything there, and there's no hope on the horizon, with so much money being used for other parks.

At least Harry Potter was great.
 
Figments Friend

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See...i used to be in that state of mind too.
I was not a fan of DAK at all until just a few years ago.

I also saw it as a mediocre experience and it seemed to be a lot of walking around in circles in the heat to get to what few attractions seemed to be there. It was another 'pointless park' that was just made to entice you to add additonal days to your multi-day admission ticket. Perhaps i was looking at it too cynically...and noting the lack of a lot of the attractions.

DAK has come a way since then with me...as i came to understand that this Park is not about attractions, it is about the surroundings around you. This is why i really like it now. I love the perfectly themed 'natural' enviroments. Asia is awesome. Africa is stunning. These two places are not great because of the attractions for me, it is the theming. When i am there, it feels like one is transported to another continent.

So i guess i have come to appreciate DAK on another level since there is not a lot of attractions. That is okay, as the surroundings and being in that space, is the 'attraction' for me.

Now getting back to the Yeti...

...considering this Park has so little to offer as far as actual rides/attractions goes it is a shame that the ONE major big ticket item is still not working!

I would like to think that at some point, perhaps when the new FantasyLand opens, Disney will see the crowds shift and may take steps to address this problem.

Another tactic would be to wait until another major attraction comes to DAK. This will shift the crowds away into another area of the Park, and EE can go down for a proper refurb.

We may be in for a loooooonnng wait if that is the case.......

...though a new attraction at DAK would be pretty sweet.

:)
 
THEMEPARKPIONEER

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My sister loves the Animal Kingdom. To be honest, besides the decorated jungle theme, I have killed more time at the Catskills Game Farm (may it rest in peace :( ) then I would at the Animal Kingdom.
 
SteveUK

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Am I being idealistic suggesting they should not consider 2nd best type options and just make a return to the perfection and attention to detail that made Disney the best - and just fix the thing. The dollar amount being the first consideration was not the attitude that made Disney the company they became. I've been visiting since the mid 90s and just seem to feel a decline every time.
 
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SteveUK said:
Am I being idealistic suggesting they should not consider 2nd best type options and just make a return to the perfection and attention to detail that made Disney the best - and just fix the thing. The dollar amount being the first consideration was not the attitude that made Disney the company they became. I've been visiting since the mid 90s and just seem to feel a decline every time.
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The point is that they can't fix it properly because it will take a long time and the attraction will have to be completely shut down. And because they built AK so cheaply and created a park with 4 or 5 real attractions, they can't shut down their signature attraction without people saying "Why am I here?" when they walk around the park. Many already do that with Expedition Everest working properly; they can't afford (figuratively, not literally) to shut it down for 4 months.

It's embarrassing (at least it should be) to Disney, but they put themselves in a bind by building a 1/4 day park in the first place.
 
THEMEPARKPIONEER

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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I have noticed a decline in the parks to. I think its the Economy, the 90's were different but then look at how the surrounding world was doing to. What I still don't get is why they are expanding the Magic Kingdom which is already good the way it is when there is so much to fix. And I would love someone to explain to me why they would start such a project during a recession. I dont see where all that moneys coming from. I know with the way things are I can barley afford gas and I don't see myself visiting Disney at all without the support of going with my parents.
 
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SteveUK said:
Am I being idealistic suggesting they should not consider 2nd best type options and just make a return to the perfection and attention to detail that made Disney the best - and just fix the thing. The dollar amount being the first consideration was not the attitude that made Disney the company they became. I've been visiting since the mid 90s and just seem to feel a decline every time.
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docandsix said:
...but I prefer to dream that The Walt Disney Company will hold true to its principles and to the ideals of its founder, instead of taking the cheap or easy way out, restoring the yeti to its original glory. Short of that, however, your plan far exceeds the garbage job being currently being done to convince unwitting vacationers that there is, in fact, actually a yeti on the attraction.
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I love it when people reach up their _______ and pull out infinite knowledge of what Walt would do. Here's a reality check for everyone out there who holds Mr. Disney to such a standard of messianic perfection. If Walt Disney had lived and ran the company exactly the way he wanted to, the company would be outright bankrupt and there wouldn't be a Walt Disney World. The same would be true if the Imagineers were to run the show without the cooler heads of the Finance folks.

The job of an Imagineer is to design the coolest, most innovative, earth-shattering attractions known to man. The job of the Finance department is to say, "No, you can't do that. It's too expensive." Make no mistake. Walt was an artist and an entertainer but he was not a businessman. Roy had to reign him in on a number of occasions because he had fantastic ideas that the Company just couldn't afford.

Not every project or repair is economically feasible. That's just a fact. The shareholders own the Company and they demand a return on their investment. Disney doesn't exist solely to please the fanboys (myself included). Disney exists (like it or not) to compete for our entertainment dollar. If we're forking those dollars over to them with a broken yeti in Expedition: Everest, then they have no incentive to spend the millions of dollars it would take to fix it. Since the percentage of people who even know about "B" mode is so small and and even smaller percentage change their consumption patter because of it, there will never be a dent in revenue significant enough that the yeti will be repaired to full A mode.
 
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Krack

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wizards8507 said:
Here's a reality check for everyone out there who holds Mr. Disney to such a standard of messianic perfection. If Walt Disney had lived and ran the company exactly the way he wanted to, the company would be outright bankrupt and there wouldn't be a Walt Disney World.
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Yup, he sure botched that whole Disneyland thing in California prior to his death. People hated it and nobody bought tickets.

The shareholders own the Company and they demand a return on their investment.
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I'm a shareholder. I'm far more concerned with the long term health of the company and the restoration of the company's good will, than I am with short term profits this year.
 
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wizards8507

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Krack said:
Yup, he sure botched that whole Disneyland thing in California prior to his death. People hated it and nobody bought tickets.
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That's not what I said. He was truly brilliant and his ideas were revolutionary, but he always wanted to go bigger, bigger, bigger. That's the right mentality for an artist and engineer to have, but if we had Beastly Kingdom, Fire Mountain, yeti in full A mode, Brazil, Australia, and a fifth gate, a 7-day park hopper would be $500, not $300. At some point, it gets too expensive and demand can't keep up, not matter how awesome things are.

Krack said:
I'm a shareholder. I'm far more concerned with the long term health of the company and the restoration of the company's good will, than I am with short term profits this year.
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That's the appropriate outlook, but do you honestly believe that the company has lost any of that good will among mainstream travelers? The only people who know about the yeti are small circles of very devoted fans who are going to keep going back anyways.
 

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