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Just curious- who plans to ride Frozen when it opens?

erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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I will ride it even though I am against the placement. If the wait time is crazy then it may just end up being a skip for us as no one is all that excited about it. My 2 kids and wife all loved the movie but they are really not all that excited for the ride. Of course we will check it out and hope that the ride is so spectacular that the pros far out weigh the cons but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Sage of Time

Sage of Time

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Monty said:
I'm confused... EPCOT was built without its integrity. It was never the "Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow" that was originally envisioned, why would anyone care that it's deviated more from its initial drastic deviation? :confused:
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That's really splitting hairs... I was referring to the fact that EPCOT, the theme park, was built with a express thematic intent that was settled around cultural exhibition and futuristic optimism. Yes, EPCOT, the city, was never built, which is a shame, but that really has no hold on the original aims and themes of the park that was built in 1982.

Maelstrom's removal for a fantasyland ride is a large step away from that.

And why would people care? Because instead of blindly accepting a brand or product, some enjoy seeing Disney be bold, original, and subtle in how they create environments and attractions for their customers. I don't go to EPCOT to see what I could see at The Magic Kingdom or Disneyland. Sadly, Disney doesn't seem to care that they have four different parks anymore and is content to mix and match thematic approaches to make a quick profit margin.
 
SnarkyMonkey

SnarkyMonkey

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A for effort to the OP for trying to have a different kind of conversation about a new attraction. I am sorry that it turned back into a "Disney is ruining my life" rant...not that anyone is surprised. I'm not going to engage in that. Horse has sufficiently been beaten. So let's move on...

I am looking forward to riding it. I love when Disney introduces anything new, be it an attraction, a menu item, or a subtle detail. So, I am curious to see how it will turn out. I can't wait to hear more information about what they have planned. I imagine that I will ride it during most visits to Epcot as it is one of the few rides in World Showcase.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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I'll probably get around to it at some point, but it will not be something I gonout of my way to see or spend more than 10 minutes waiting. Given its very short development timeline, I don't have high hopes.
 
George

George

Liker of Things
lazyboy97o said:
I'll probably get around to it at some point, but it will not be something I gonout of my way to see or spend more than 10 minutes waiting. Given its very short development timeline, I don't have high hopes.
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Correct. I'll ride it to, but I'm rather hopeful about the possibility of a long term failure. They've forgotten that things like quality and placement are just as important in the theme park environment where things are around for decades and after several years the quality of an attraction far outweighs the i.p. I hope it is a terrible ride for 3 reasons. 1) This is terrible attraction placement, 2) Frozen deserves better than this and 3) an appropriate wake up call would serve all of us theme park fans. They need to remember that they're DISNEY. They can do whatever they want in their theme parks and high quality, well themed, immersive attractions and environments are what they're known for. They don't need the i.p. safety net on everything and they should pay attention to what goes where.

I should note that I am fully aware for the first year or two this will have long waits. I'm talking about after that. I really think another Donald and the Ducks You've Never Heard of Since They Were Mostly Used as WWII Propoganda in a Weird Attempt to get Various South American Governments on Board with the Allies boat ride with the associated wait times could be good long term.
 
FettFan

FettFan

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I'll ride it once...but only out of sheer morbid curiosity, because I'm the kind of guy that slows down at car accidents to see what happened.

jensenrick said:
and what scenes/elements/details do you hope to see?
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Given how absolutely craptastic Frozen became after the "Let It Go" song, how about a complete re-write back to the original treatment that has Elsa actually becoming a villain and then finding redemption?
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Monty said:
I'm confused... EPCOT was built without its integrity. It was never the "Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow" that was originally envisioned, why would anyone care that it's deviated more from its initial drastic deviation? :confused:
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It's about THEMING. Frozen is to Norway what Aladdin is to Saudi Arabia...there's a couple of design details and influences, but it's it's own dang thing and is not actually representative of the country.
Putting Frozen in Norway makes about as much dang sense as gutting Carousel of Progress for a Jack Sparrow meet and greet.

Frozen belongs in the Magic Kingdom. Period.
 
NYwdwfan

NYwdwfan

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George said:
Correct. I'll ride it to, but I'm rather hopeful about the possibility of a long term failure. They've forgotten that things like quality and placement are just as important in the theme park environment where things are around for decades and after several years the quality of an attraction far outweighs the i.p. I hope it is a terrible ride for 3 reasons. 1) This is terrible attraction placement, 2) Frozen deserves better than this and 3) an appropriate wake up call would serve all of us theme park fans. They need to remember that they're DISNEY. They can do whatever they want in their theme parks and high quality, well themed, immersive attractions and environments are what they're known for. They don't need the i.p. safety net on everything and they should pay attention to what goes where.

I should note that I am fully aware for the first year or two this will have long waits. I'm talking about after that. I really think another Donald and the Ducks You've Never Heard of Since They Were Mostly Used as WWII Propoganda in a Weird Attempt to get Various South American Governments on Board with the Allies boat ride with the associated wait times could be good long term.
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DatDYNHoSTWMUaWWIIPiaWAtgVSAGoBwtA sure does have a nice ring to it!

:hilarious:
 
WDW_Jon

WDW_Jon

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Ridiculous question.
I'm Sure someone will pop upto be difficult on here as usual but EVERYONE will at least once and probably use a FP to do it despite their massive issues they apparently have!
Stop pretending out of principle
 
melmel89

melmel89

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I have to say the thing that I have found truly puzzling about the Maelstrom/frozen ride debate and have been reluctant to say for fear of abuse, is the whole "culture" argument. Yes I get that the placement of the ride is not the best and it may have been better in MK or DHS but if people are that distressed by cultural misrepresentation why visit somewhere like EPCOT? there are inaccuracies in all of the countries, take the UK for example only tiny, affluent areas our country still look like that but I would never boycott that area or lambast Disney for designing it that way. I just think that if people are that concerned about having an authentic experience they may be happier visiting the actual countries! Rant over:D. Suffice to say I will be giving the frozen ride a chance.
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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I'll ride it. Maybe every time I'm there.

I'll ride it the way I ride Mission space, and Test Track. With part of me trying to make do with what is there, and part of me crying silent tears for what once was.
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Edit: Maybe I'll pretend I'm in Fantasyland, boarding a fun new darkride. I do that a lot in EPCOT, make pretend. We all need a fantasy world to escape the harsh reality that is Disney World.
 
Dwarful

Dwarful

Well-Known Member
I didn't care for the movie and I am sure in the beginning the lines will be obnoxiously long so I won't be riding it anytime near the opening year. Not going to waste a Tier 1 FP on that ride.

Side note: I teach at a grade school and on Friday I did not get 1 single Frozen, Olaf, Anna or Elsa Valentine's Day card. Not one girl in my 2nd grade brought in Frozen/Anna/Elsa/Olaf cards to pass out. I did score a high number of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (mostly from the boys).
 

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