Journey To Center of Earth Rumor!!

20kl

If i'm not mistaken 20kl is 20,000 leauges under the sea and why would they put that at animal kingdom? I mean the just took it out of MK?? if anyone can explain it to me just let me know! thx

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OliveMcFly

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We used to have a ride called JTCOTE at our local amusement park. It was cool although nowhere close to what WDW could do. I'd like to see something like this come to life.
 

DarkMeasures

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MickeyMan101 said:
If i'm not mistaken 20kl is 20,000 leauges under the sea and why would they put that at animal kingdom? I mean the just took it out of MK?? if anyone can explain it to me just let me know! thx

Well, there is a major difference between 20k at TDS and the 20k at WDW.

WDW 20k was a mantainence nightmare which was one of the reasons why it was rigged to be closed forever. Any repears done would need to be done underwater.

There was though a Little Mermaid dark ride planned for Disneyland Paris and the Imagineers could not have just submerged the whole ride, so Wet-for-dry was created. This basically enabled underwater effects while being in a completly waterless environment. (minus the water used in the windows for the effect). The project was canned though but the technology was still there.

So when TDS had 20k built, there was a much easier and cheaper alternative to actual submarines. Basically all TDS's 20k is is just Peterpan's flight with a simulated underwater environment. And this basically has solved every problem created by the original 20k ride. That is also why if Disneyland's Subs were to return (which sadly only have a chance with the Nemo overlay due to costs), they would use Wet-For-Dry boxes outside the subs.

Anyway, I don't think 20k will be rebuilt but it would be very smart. It would actually had beenbe cheaper to build this new 20k instead of refurbing the old one. But I am pretty sure Journey would be the only ride built.

Mt. Prometheus could be a good anchor for Beastle Kingdomme, even if it does not fit the original theme, it would bring a certain hope to the land. There are other animal themes that could go with that too besides the kingdomme idea.

And Camp Minnie Mickey, besides what the Lion King Show has become, the whole land was built to last only a year or two. This land needs to be destroyed (though keeping Lion King would be good), because it basically represents the problems people have with current management. A land of mainly meet-and-greets may have been good for first year attendance but now it is just bad.

Camp Minnie Mickey will probably not be removed for a long time but I am pretty sure it will be. It is just that the vast amount of expansion room enables with sad shell of a land to stay.

Another issue is cloning. Yes, cloning is bad. But, if it is used to help keep a park afloat after Everest is no longer new and the next original ride is still in planning it is good. Basically, Journey would probably open 2007/2008. Now, since there are no strong leads for original attractions in rumors, (excavator did get built, it is just now known as Primevil whril, sad, but true) it would take at least until Everest is built for a strong lead and perhaps a year more. By then, Everest will be clost to open. Now, it took 3 years to build everest. If the same time is used from 2006, it would be 2009 when the new attraction would open.

And that finally reminds me. Beastly Kingdomme was set to open 2008 after it got cut from the original opening line-up. If development had continued, construction would have probably started by next summer.
 

ZHoyt

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Doesn't JITCOTE use the same ride system as dinosaur/ctx and Indy? I don't know if it makes sense to put that in as the next thing. I would rather have that tech used for an Indy ride at MGM or something at MK.
 

CubbieMan

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What an amazing coincidence....While I was visiting WDW with my g/f a month ago..someone ahead of us in line on Philharmagic mentioned his brother was an imagineer. He said that there were plans on the 1st stages of building Journey to The Center of the Earth to begin in early 2005..I thought he was feeding me a line since I have never heard that rumor...but then I read this.....
 

Mark_E

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Doesn't JITCOTE use the same ride system as dinosaur/ctx and Indy? I don't know if it makes sense to put that in as the next thing. I would rather have that tech used for an Indy ride at MGM or something at MK.

I think it uses the same tech as Test Track, Thats what i read on a review
 

Lee

Adventurer
Again, when Lee first mentioned this rumour a few months back (and I'm still waiting for him to post to see if he has any new info..hint...hint ) he indicated that it would go in the area just north of Camp Mickey.

Sorry...nothing to add at this time. :(
 
New Ride

I like the idea of JTCOTE, but... They need to do something with Indiana Jones, Maybe put the actual ride in? I'm a big fan of the show and movies, but it needs to be done. Basicly what i'm saying is every park could have a ride that is like Dinasoure? But AK would have 2. well that's all i have to say thx.:)

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Shaman

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My vote is with bringing the Jungle Cruise to AK...with real animals or fake...I think is would do two things...add a ride to AK and clear up prime real estate for a great addition to MK...after all Jungle Cruise fits better in AK than in MK...

Without a doubt, they need to do something with Camp Minnie Mickey....the concept could work...with the right attractions...but maybe they should rethink the theme for that area...

Just some thoughts...

(This sure is one classic wdwmagic.com discussion)

:)
 

jrriddle

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objr said:
My vote is with bringing the Jungle Cruise to AK...with real animals or fake...I think is would do two things...add a ride to AK and clear up prime real estate for a great addition to MK...after all Jungle Cruise fits better in AK than in MK...

Just some thoughts...

(This sure is one classic wdwmagic.com discussion)

:)

See this is what Kali should have been. More like Jungle Cruise with the rapids at the end.
 

wbboy29

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Mark_E said:
I think it uses the same tech as Test Track, Thats what i read on a review


You are correct JTTCOTE uses the same technology as Test Track. But Journey is a lot more reliable, since the imagineers had more time to work on it and learned a lot of leasons with TT.
 

peter11435

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wbboy29 said:
You are correct JTTCOTE uses the same technology as Test Track. But Journey is a lot more reliable, since the imagineers had more time to work on it and learned a lot of leasons with TT.
That and it wasn't put into an existing building.
 

Lynx04

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objr said:
My vote is with bringing the Jungle Cruise to AK...with real animals or fake...I think is would do two things...add a ride to AK and clear up prime real estate for a great addition to MK...after all Jungle Cruise fits better in AK than in MK...

Without a doubt, they need to do something with Camp Minnie Mickey....the concept could work...with the right attractions...but maybe they should rethink the theme for that area...

Just some thoughts...

(This sure is one classic wdwmagic.com discussion)

:)
That would be a great idea, AK is a better fit for it anyways. I wouldn't mind seeing this happen. Jungle cruise takes up a lot of space too.
 

DarkMeasures

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Lynx04 said:
That would be a great idea, AK is a better fit for it anyways. I wouldn't mind seeing this happen. Jungle cruise takes up a lot of space too.


Just like what JRRiddle said before, that was the original AIM for Kali. It would be jungle cruise with real animals and rapids.

However, like many attractions of Disney in the late 90's and early 00's, budget cuts killed the attraction.
 
Summing it all up!

So Basicly all the people are saying is that Journey to the Center of The Earth IS going to be built at AK with groundbreaking maybe Spring 2005? That's what i'm getting so, that's what it seams.

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speck76

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DarkMeasures said:
Just like what JRRiddle said before, that was the original AIM for Kali. It would be jungle cruise with real animals and rapids.

However, like many attractions of Disney in the late 90's and early 00's, budget cuts killed the attraction.

The problem with that is that the animals are unpredictable. The enclosures need to be ldone in a way that the animals could not get to the boats, which could limit the viewing, and also, the enclosures need to be large enough to meet AZA guidelines. What if all of the animals are sleeping, or hiding behind rocks or something.....the ride would no longer be anything special....just a boat ride, and they already removed one of those.l
 

Lee

Adventurer
MickeyMan101 said:
So Basicly all the people are saying is that Journey to the Center of The Earth IS going to be built at AK with groundbreaking maybe Spring

Nope...not exactly.
Many would LIKE it to happen, but there is no good indication at this point that it WILL happen, in fact I would say it's highly unlikely.
It's just a rumor...unless someone knows something solid...I don't.
 

stitchcastle

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Although I absolutely love JTTCOTE, I'm praying that it doesn't go to AK I just don't see any sense to it. It would've been plausible if the creatures in Journey were famous like what is Dragons to Dragon Tower or the Yeti to Expedition Everest but they're just simply unknown. If they wanna add another E-ticket to AK, make it Dragon Tower or Beastlie Kingdomme itself!
 

Tim G

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Lee said:
Nope...not exactly.
Many would LIKE it to happen, but there is no good indication at this point that it WILL happen, in fact I would say it's highly unlikely.
It's just a rumor...unless someone knows something solid...I don't.
I concur
 

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