Snow Queen 83
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Nope, it actually has elements of education. Moana's new attraction is just random fountains.
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Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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Nope, it actually has elements of education. Moana's new attraction is just random fountains.
doctornick
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Is it? I didn't realize you had already experienced it....
IIRC, Disney actually said in the announcement that the attraction will involve exploring the "natural water cycle".
Jenny72
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This could feasibly be done nicely, but I really have to comment on the notion that Moana IP is parallel to the types of IP that were used early on in the parks. Most of what was included in the MK and particularly Epcot was based on public domain/classic works. MK included centuries-old fairy tales and classic children's literature, and Epcot included major themes relating to the future, the earth, etc. No matter how good a new movie is, it's not going to have the same timeless resonance as themes based in oral traditions and the public imagination.
This is why it really rankles when Disney (indirectly) calls stuff like Moana timeless. I thought it was a good movie, but call me again in 200 years. That's (at least) how old Snow White is.
This is why it really rankles when Disney (indirectly) calls stuff like Moana timeless. I thought it was a good movie, but call me again in 200 years. That's (at least) how old Snow White is.
networkpro
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Please, it's a park called Epcot , it was never that acronym. Its evolving past the failed edutainment concept.
Snow Queen 83
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I'd take "Horizons", "World of Motion" and "Journey into Imagination" anyday over their replacements.
Casper Gutman
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What failed was a succession of executives who chased trends and assumed their audience was very, very stupid.
donnylambb
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I will give it a chance does not look to invasive.
Bocabear
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They are tearing down a building to put it in and completely re-routing how you walk into the park...I think that is pretty invasive!
networkpro
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Don't confuse your hopes and dreams with what was constructed as Epcot... It was nowhere near Progress City in scope or composition.
Casper Gutman
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No, it wasn’t Progress City, but it WAS successful edutainment. And unsuccessful management.
Sir_Cliff
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It would be quite something if the CEO of Disney was asked when hit films like Lion King, Frozen, or Moana would be featured in the parks and responded that the company had to wait a few hundred years to see if they had staying power.
MickeyMouse10
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I could understand a Pocahontas Meet and Greet being in the Nature section, but not a Moana splash area. She belongs in Adventureland with a real attraction (like Fire Mountain).
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Steph15251
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If this is more like a walk through like the ones they have at AK ,with plants and waterfalls I am fine with this ,since I really like the AK walk throughs.
Steph15251
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Looking at the concept art this does not look like a splash area
networkpro
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Nope, it was unsuccessful in retaining those sponsors that were paying the bills for Future World. Industries change including those who sponsor venues.
RSoxNo1
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I don't think we know that. I'm envisioning something like The Oasis exhibits with some interactive fountains. If that's the case I'm 100% on board. I'd also argue that the themes of Epcot and Animal Kingdom are getting a bit more blurred.
FigmentJedi
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Maui is well over 2000 years old. All of his exploits on his skin and in his song are generally drawn from actual ancient myths (no giant crab though). The film's quest is a very loose family friendly adaptation/extension of Maui's failed quest for immortality, with Te Fiti as a stand-in for Hine-nui-te-po, with her Te Ka form even being called Te Po in early script drafts.
Yeah, there's a dumb Twitter joke in there, but Moana's just as much a part of Disney's tradition of adapting/remixing human folklore as the classics.
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lazyboy97o
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By that measure the Magic Kingdom also failed as it once had more sponsors.
Epcot failed, not EPCOT Center, and Disney’s big new idea is Universal Studios.
Jenny72
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Moana's just as much a part of Disney's tradition of adapting/remixing human folklore as the classics.
Fair enough and a reasonable point! So I'll give Moana a pass. But let's just say that much of the IP that is getting shoved around does not meet this standard. (Unless someone knows of a 2000 year old story involving Peter Quill or Wreck it Ralph?)
Fair enough and a reasonable point! So I'll give Moana a pass. But let's just say that much of the IP that is getting shoved around does not meet this standard. (Unless someone knows of a 2000 year old story involving Peter Quill or Wreck it Ralph?)