Yet think about how much space has been dedicated to this. How much resources. How much effort was put into this….
To get … something you have to defend as… its just … this?
I'm glad you're into a completely empty pavilion across the way that drastically needed something put into it, and you're also into a proposed scrapped potential refresh or re-theme for imagination.... As well as the drastically much needed spaceship earth refurb being cancelled..I'm into it
Will it even be open at night?It is a part of the entire epcot renovation. Gotg, rat, new communicore, space 220, central core, entrance fountain makeover, etc.....all the major stuff had already opened, people know this. Jow isn't hyped up to be anything more than it is, an edutainment walkthrough experience.
If everything opened at once I don't think jow would get nearly the hate on these forums bit they slowed down/staggered construction and that sucks but it is what it is.
Can't wait to see this at night
And how many anchored park redesigns?I have no issue with space, resources, or effort being deployed for a walk through attraction. Disneyland Paris has many, and they are wonderful.
I generally agree that they scrapped a lot of necessary, better things, but the bolded strikes me as somewhat inaccurate. They didn't stop work on everything else and redirect funds because they thought Journey of Water was more important; the simple fact is that they were already well underway on the spine and couldn't feasibly back out of it completely. Poppins, Spaceship Earth, and Imagination, on the other hand, never even got started and so were much more easily abandoned. PLAY! had some work done, but it's on the outskirts and was already essentially vacant for many years. I'm reasonably confident that if they hadn't started demolition or if JoW had been located elsewhere, it too would have been cut.I'm glad you're into a completely empty pavilion across the way that drastically needed something put into it, and you're also into a proposed scrapped potential refresh or re-theme for imagination.... As well as the drastically much needed spaceship earth refurb being cancelled..
...all in favor of the multi million dollar water playground.
Mention the okay-ish projects and forget about all the things Epcot needed and was supposed to get.
Even Mary Poppins tea-cups would have been better utilized than this. And out of the way, too.
That is my concern, are they going to limit how many people can walk through at any given time? The last thing that most people want is to have it so packed that it becomes a bottleneck with no one moving, and you are unable to actually interact with the attraction.I think it looks nice enough, although I still think it's not too different from some of the stuff originally in ImageWorks and that building something similar should have been part of an overhaul of the Imagination pavilion rather than a self-contained area elsewhere in the park.
That said, I don't see how it's going to work at Disney. It would be great at a zoo, aquarium, science museum, etc. that only had a couple thousand visitors a day (if that), but everything about it suggests it's intended as a leisurely walkthrough experience where you have fun with the interactive elements. Disney is just too busy for that.
Either they're going to severely limit the number of people in it at any given time (leading to long wait times, which will cause expectations/satisfaction problems) or it's going to be so crowded that it's miserable and you have to stand around and wait for 10 minutes to do each little interactive element.
There's a lot of difference between Journey of Water and the DLP walkthroughs.I have no issue with space, resources, or effort being deployed for a walk through attraction. Disneyland Paris has many, and they are wonderful.
(I know you know all this, before I start down the humorous path)
Well, for many years it was $lappie the Bald Crap Peddler. Now it's Mr. "I make the fanbois swoon" Skinny Jeans. One was unqualified for the job. The other was unqualified for any job and got promoted to CEO before he got torpedoed by his predecessor. Neither held any parks ops experience before running the parks. What could go wrong???
Of those listed WOL is the only loss as it would finally utilize the pavilion but even that was a misguided idea that wouldnt be great.I'm glad you're into a completely empty pavilion across the way that drastically needed something put into it, and you're also into a proposed scrapped potential refresh or re-theme for imagination.... As well as the drastically much needed spaceship earth refurb being cancelled..
...all in favor of the multi million dollar water playground.
Mention the okay-ish projects and forget about all the things Epcot needed and was supposed to get.
Even Mary Poppins tea-cups would have been better utilized than this. And out of the way, too.
I would have even preferred the table over this.It is a part of the PARTIAL Epcot renovation. Half of which was cancelled.
This should have been part of the cancelled half.
And in return, we should have gotten Mary Poppins, something for WOL, or quite literally ANY of the other cancelled projects.
I stated it was not a mess like that visually.Harmonious (and Cosmic Rewind) actively detract from the park due to the hideous infrastructure, so I have a hard time considering them comparable. At the very least, Journey of Water is not a visual blight towering over EPCOT and is basically completely ignorable if you hate it, whereas Harmonious and CR really can’t be ignored and drag down otherwise lovely areas.
That's what happens when they let pretty much anyone go to a CM preview event. Assuming its a guest of a CM and not an actual CM.
Because it was supposed to fill a gap when the Festival Center was a thing. No other reason, I imagine.I'm confused why this wasn't on the plot between Seas and Land?
God I wish.I generally agree that they scrapped a lot of necessary, better things, but the bolded strikes me as somewhat inaccurate. They didn't stop work on everything else and redirect funds because they thought Journey of Water was more important; the simple fact is that they were already well underway on the spine and couldn't feasibly back out of it completely. Poppins, Spaceship Earth, and Imagination, on the other hand, never even got started and so were much more easily abandoned. PLAY! had some work done, but it's on the outskirts and was already essentially vacant for many years. I'm reasonably confident that if they hadn't started demolition or if JoW had been located elsewhere, it too would have been cut.
I was thinking the same thing, that it seems so out of place in that location. I guess it would depend on what else they put in that area. We will see when it is done. I will be there in a month arriving on the day that it is predicted to open so hopefully I will be able to see it in person. I am fine with walk through attractions. One of my favorite things to do is sit in the aviary in the Maharajah Jungle Trek because I like the peace. Not sure this will be at all peaceful, but maybe later in the evening it will be.I'm confused why this wasn't on the plot between Seas and Land? It'd be something decent to fill that space. This should've been a dark-ride instead. It would've fit and actually handle crowds. This is not something that should be in the center of the park.
I wasn't expecting much but I'm still disappointed. Still curious enough to see it in person though.
It was stated by other previewers that they were encouraged to take photos and video but that they were explicitly told not to release them until a certain date.When I read "leaked TikTok video" I thought someone covertly took some pictures. Not walking right past at least one CM with the phone/whatever they were using clearly in front of them and clearly being seen by said CM. Sheesh, Disney "rules" really are just optional aren't they?
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