Josh D'Amaro comments on rising prices and "additional" or removed services: "An inevitable result of progress"

Thelazer

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We made a huge mistake in going last year.. We did little research and it turned out to be basically a kids event and then the cirque style show upcharge event.. However we did get to explore the resort and found that we wanted to go to moor for dinner.. I still want to go back and try Old Hickory Steakhouse soon.

Old Hickory is Okay.. atmosphere wise, you can't beat it.
Steak wise, it's okay... I'd rate it a middle ground between all the steakhouses in Orlando.

(But higher rating if you want that "atmosphere"
 

MissingDisney

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Back when the Haiti earthquake happened and many lives lost, TWDC donated $100K to the Red Cross. A number of cast who work at WDW are from Haiti.
TWDC donating $100K is like us common folk donating a penny. And I only say a penny because it’s the smallest we have. While it was appreciated I’m sure, it was a PR stunt and insultingly low. Actions speak louder….
 

MrPromey

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TWDC donating $100K is like us common folk donating a penny. And I only say a penny because it’s the smallest we have. While it was appreciated I’m sure, it was a PR stunt and insultingly low. Actions speak louder….
I'm inclined to think of the "gift horse" remark and say, anything is better than nothing but given the profit this company generates, I have to agree.

Saying they'd donate the proceeds from parking fees for the MK for one day would have been more impressive.
 

JoeCamel

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I'm inclined to think of the "gift horse" remark and say, anything is better than nothing but given the profit this company generates, I have to agree.

Saying they'd donate the proceeds from parking fees for the MK for one day would have been more impressive.
Just one day's gate at the MK is like 5 million
 

bhg469

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Old Hickory is Okay.. atmosphere wise, you can't beat it.
Steak wise, it's okay... I'd rate it a middle ground between all the steakhouses in Orlando.

(But higher rating if you want that "atmosphere"
Good to know! I think we might skip it then.. there's obviously an incredible amount of steak houses here so I'll skip this one and go for something better like le cellier!!! JK!!!
 

MrPromey

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Just one day's gate at the MK is like 5 million

Yeah but the MK has about 12,000 parking spaces. I'm thinking on an average day when the lot isn't full, at $25-$50 a car they'd easily bring in at least 2-3x that $100k donation.

... and that's my point - not even factoring in admission or food or merchandise or anything else, the slab of concrete in only ONE of the resort parking lots brings in more than that donation in a single average day and for all practical intents and purposes, we're talking about just where the spending begins for guests for a single division of the company.
 
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Lilofan

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TWDC donating $100K is like us common folk donating a penny. And I only say a penny because it’s the smallest we have. While it was appreciated I’m sure, it was a PR stunt and insultingly low. Actions speak louder….
$100K donation to the Red Cross is not low. A Zero donation would be low but there will always be a few critics out there when a company makes a donation regardless of the amount. Nothing new.
 

andysol

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Does one enjoy standing in queue lines for at times for hours pre Genie+? Not my family. Paying for a service by choice and limited wait times are better than waiting in line for long periods of time.
This is next level pixie dust.
If G+ was a better product, I’d completely agree.
But it’s not. It’s a hot mess in its current (and former) iterations.

I think 95% of us would rather they just kept FP+ and charged for it vs what we got. And that % is probably low.

I think they want the park exclusively for rich people. However, do we know where the money go? I think it is a matter of their own salary. We are starting a recession around the world.

Many people will choose other options. Why not universal ? They are not killing the magic as Bob Chapek.
Rich person checking in here.

And not sure how to say this without sounding pompous, but I’m not even a 1% rich guy, but a .1% rich guy.

I don’t think they are trying to make the park exclusively for rich people at all. I’m a Disney fan with 8 & 12 year old daughters- and the place is becoming unbearable to me.

If I were designing a strategy to appeal to me, it would not be the current offering by any stretch.

The crowds are crushing. And having a chaperone in plaid to whisk me away through CM parking lots as the only means to escape them isn’t my idea of a good time, personally.
I’d rather rope drop and leave by lunch and come back for dinner at a different park.
It’s the crowds for me, not the waits.

And I cannot begin to mention the hotels that “my ilk” are accustomed to that Disney falls short on.
2-4x daily housekeeping is what I am accustomed to when I travel. Not 3x/week.
Not that I hate disney hotels, I rather enjoy them. But “Deluxe”, they are not.

So no- it’s not being designed for rich people, but for people with credit.
And social media has propped the Disney World tent-pole into a nearly undying beast as it’s simply a right of passage for middle-class American families.
Debt be damned.

As for rich people? They’ll continue spending their vacations abroad.
As for rich Disney people? We’ll continue resenting a more and more inferior product like the rest of you.
 

LSLS

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I don't really think that's true. People are very susceptible to strategic pricing. It's the reason why things are usually $2.99 instead of $3.00.

A Disney hotel at $290 a night is still better than a Disney hotel at $320 a night. People will only see the first number.

No they won't, not for a Disney trip. Or at least Disney doesn't price like that. All Stars rack rates are $123-$247. AKL is $450 at the value time, $542 regular, and $603 for the spring. Disney has 0 thought on getting that $299 approach on room rates. People almost never know the cost of rooms there anyways. You need a room at the Coronado midweek October. Is the price $274, $264, or $284? If you didn't know the two lower prices, would that really change things? Is $280 that line you would never cross on your $4,000 vacation? And I'll say again, my personal experience, If I had one hotel at $150 that charged a $25 parking/resort fee, and another at $185 with no fee, I'd almost always take the $185.
 

matt9112

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Your implication here is that they're bleeding loyal customers. They're not.

They're not replacing loyal customers and replacing them with new ones, they're retaining loyal customers and adding new ones. And then a tiny minority of folks are Very Mad Online.

So I’m some outlier ? Had an AP for 3 of 4 years….went every weekend. The amount of pinch hitting you do for bob legitimately makes me think you are financially compensated (outside of your stock options)
 

JMcMahonEsq

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Disney donating $100k to the Red Cross is like my family donating $2. And Disney gets a tax write-off for their donation.
No it’s really not. $2 buys jack . No one cares that you or your family gave $2, as it barely covers the processing fee for the donation. $100,000 can buy literally tons of supplies, or food, or housing credits. You think the Haitian familes care if Disney got a tax credit as long as they get some clean water or shelter? That $100k has a positive practical effect, while your $2 or other diminutive donation does nothing besides letting you “feel good” about yourself
 

GimpYancIent

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I rest my case , any amount a company helps donate in a disaster cause will be met with some naysayers.
Nah. The Disney Co. specially with B.C. at the helm does not meet the standard.
"phi·lan·thro·py
[fəˈlanTHrəpē]
NOUN
  1. the desire to promote the welfare of others, expressed especially by the generous donation of money to good causes:
    "He acquired a considerable fortune and was noted for his philanthropy"
 

Turtlekrawl

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The Disney Co. attempt to appear philanthropic is sad.
I’m as down on the direction of TWDC as everyone else, but criticizing them for the dollar amounts, or the potential ulterior motives of their charitable donations is not on my list of complaints. Voluntary charitable giving is generally good.
 

Lilofan

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I’m as down on the direction of TWDC as everyone else, but criticizing them for the dollar amounts, or the potential ulterior motives of their charitable donations is not on my list of complaints. Voluntary charitable giving is generally good.
The naysayers will still complain the donation is not enough
 

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