Joe Rohde Would Hate This

[Goofyernmost]

I think I get your point.

Every area of DAK has some level of 'Chester&Hester Syndrome', to varying degrees. Just because what you see is intentional and quite intricate design does not mean the final result is pleasing. DAK often loses itself in its own cleverness. Deliberate ugliness, intentional cheap looks, decay, or backstories driven too far or being too specific.

To put it differently, if you spend $150 million to make something look like $2.00 garbage, then it looks like $2 garbage. Just with a great coffee table book devoted to it.

Yea, but, how about the part that if you went to Tibet that is what it would look like. You don't get better theming then that. Is it our spoiled ways that upset us that not everything in the world is western culture or affluence? I understand someone not understanding that if they have never been exposed to the rest of the world, but, if after someone bothered to explain that the reason it looked that way is because that is what it would look like in countries that don't have our lifestyle that is just plain denial. It is as close as one can get to the reality of the area that they are trying to simulate without actually going there. They didn't spend $150 million on the string of lights, so how much they spent on the attraction is not even relevant to how it is presented. If we find that to be offensive then we are either unaware that other cultures exist or we just don't believe that anything is different from downtown Miami.

 

[crxbrett]

Some eras or themes of certain lands do have the worn down, delapidated or old looking look though and it works perfectly well because it fits with the theme that is trying to be conveyed or adds to the aesthetics or part of the story being told. A lot of Frontierland would fall into that category, as well as parts of Adventureland and Asia and Africa in AK, too.

 

[Kram Sacul]

Animal Kingdom is part of the same era of Disney design that brought us Test Track 1.0, DCA's Tortilla factory, Disney Studio 1 and other run-down or warehouse spaces that don't have any kind of charm or romanticism to them. At least ToT has the faded glow of Old Hollywood glamour going for it. Morocco at Epcot and IoA's Lost Continent may be aged, but they have a granduer to their scale and place making.

I'm glad WDI has largely moved away from the "it looks just like junk!" design philosphy. I'd hate to see how Joe Rohde would design Liberty Square today.

You haven't seen Mission: Garbage Chute and Pixar Pier?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You know what accounting hates?

...joe rohde’s bills.


(Shameless and too easy...I know)

 

[Tom Morrow]

I think OP is trolling.

I think DAK is the most beautiful and cohesively themed theme park in this hemisphere.

 

[note2001]

I think OP is trolling.

I think DAK is the most beautiful and cohesively themed theme park in this hemisphere.

He is. Anyone who follows JR enough to spell his name right knows that AK is his baby. Just about everything on show in the place was designed by his team and has his stamp of approval. That includes the cheap looking strands of Christmas lights.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

He is. Anyone who follows JR enough to spell his name right knows that AK is his baby. Just about everything on show in the place was designed by his team and has his stamp of approval. That includes the cheap looking strands of Christmas lights.

Does that mean he can’t be critical of him?

I love dak...other than it opened with massive reductions due to lag and blowing the budget to mars and they left it largely untouched for 17 years...but whatevs.

But “JR” is the classic WDI Jekyll and Hyde...doing some great things but cutting everyone’s knees out because he thinks he’s and abstract artist on a grant...and not an engineer on a deadline.

The few DDC people I still communicate with say they seriously considered putting his face on aulani dartboards (not really...that’s an allusion, you stiffs...the issues are well known)...

I give them massive for credit for avatar though...at least till the real bill leaks out

 

[Tom Morrow]

I don't think Joe Rohde should be criticized for insisting that theme park design be above and beyond how everyone else does it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think Joe Rohde should be criticized for insisting that theme park design be above and beyond how everyone else does it.

But he’s not Picasso...and he should be criticized for destroying budgets that undoubtedly has robbed we, the customer, of more entertainment over the years...

What was that price tag on Everest again? Vekoma in a shell?

 

[note2001]

Does that mean he can’t be critical of him?

I refer you back to the title of this thread: "Joe Rohde Would Hate This"
If the OP is not a troll, then he genuinely does not understand JR's philosophy behind the design choices made. I highly doubt JR is not aware of the lights, or that he disapproves of them... and if he did hate them, changes would have been made long ago.

 

[Tom Morrow]

But he’s not Picasso...and he should be criticized for destroying budgets that undoubtedly has robbed we, the customer, of more entertainment over the years...

What was that price tag on Everest again? Vekoma in a shell?

Blowing the budget? Or fighting the pencil pushers for a good product?

Would you rather Everest have been more like Rock 'n' RollerCoaster's level of theming, where the budget cuts are obvious?

 

[Kram Sacul]

Blowing the budget? Or fighting the pencil pushers for a good product?

Would you rather Everest have been more like Rock 'n' RollerCoaster's level of theming, where the budget cuts are obvious?

What budget cuts?

 

[Tom Morrow]

What budget cuts?

Okay not budget cuts, but made on the cheap, much like the original incarnation of DCA.

 

[Kram Sacul]

Okay not budget cuts, but made on the cheap, much like the original incarnation of DCA.

You mean there was supposed to be more than sign and billboards in there? I wish Martin would do a video about RnR.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Blowing the budget? Or fighting the pencil pushers for a good product?

Would you rather Everest have been more like Rock 'n' RollerCoaster's level of theming, where the budget cuts are obvious?

In a word: yes. Because rockinroller coaster has worked - perfectly - for 19 years. And that is a resounding success. Not everything has to be $300 million dollars.

Couple questions:
1. How much was DAK budget
2. How much did they actually spend (estimated)?
3. How much of the designed area was built?

 

[Minnie Mum]

Guys, guys. Stop and listen to yourselves. Now go back and re read the first post (remembering that this isnt the OPs first visit -he's been around these forums for 12 years). If the OP was trolling, he certainly succeeded.

 

[Lou Filerman]

How would anyone know what someone would or wouldn’t like? Isn’t Joe the only one who can weigh in on this?

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

This thread’s title sounds like those clickbait pop up ad scams that show up on the sides of web pages.

 

[lazyboy97o]

In a word: yes. Because rockinroller coaster has worked - perfectly - for 19 years. And that is a resounding success. Not everything has to be $300 million dollars.

Couple questions:
1. How much was DAK budget
2. How much did they actually spend (estimated)?
3. How much of the designed area was built?

Expedition Everest didn’t cost $300 million. Disney’s Animal Kingdom had cuts. It was the first post-Euro Disney park and was slashed at just like Disney’s California Adventure and Walt Disney Studios Park. That the park doesn’t get lumped in with those second gates as cheap disasters should be a testament to something.

 

[KBLovedDisney]

I think AK is the most immersive park.

Doh! Wrong thread again.