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Joe Rohde announces retirement from WDI

Lilofan

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That is aesthetically nice if not over done, but I feel that Celebration stepped way over the line. I don't think that Disney has any control over the local government directly anymore, but the rules established to make it a magical place were direct from the Disney brain bank. Here you have a grouping of somewhat wealthy people (by local standards anyway) and they can't pass gas without permission. That would be way to stifling for me, especially if I had enough money to be anyplace I wanted to be.
Correct. Having to meet with the "committee" regarding violations is like being called to the principal's office in high school.
 

KBLovesDisney

Well-Known Member
No, It's Disney cutting high paid employees so that they can "save money" in this time of pandemic. The fact that it's right before the 50th is just a sad happenstance.
Well, that is just wrong.

"Oh, we are having our big party next year! Oh but you long timers are not invited. In fact, just leave."

season 6 what GIF
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
But isn't that a masterstroke? DAK was severely underfunded. So the designers cleverly tried to divert the limits from 5 to 3.5 lands. Quality over quantity. Asia, Dinoland, Camp Mickey Minnie were left blank or got cheap filler, to be filled in in due course.

The 3.5 lands too were financially underfunded, but over-endowed with creative and intellectual prowess.

DCA, WDSP, DAK Three undrrfunded parks that opened within a few years. Two of them a failure, two of them corrected at enormous expense. One of them a gorgeous succes. This feat stands as one of the greatest successes in all of WDI history.

Well I’m gonna have to respectfully disagree here. The late Eisner cheap parks are a well documented disaster. But DAK caused those as much as it was a “victim”

That park was horribly overbudget and opened with next to nothing. Not nearly the park it needed to be. And WDI didn’t “bail it out” - make lemons out of lemonade - as much as they dug a hole and asked for a rope from the top. That actually leads us back to the topic.

So its a mixed bag on that one.

That’s a sugarcoated oversimplification.
Ron Miller and his team made the successes of Eisner/Wells possible because they set up Home Video, the Disney Channel, and Touchstone Pictures. Had the company not been greenmailed, they could have stayed in power and taken credit for their hard work. EPCOT Center was expensive, but thanks to Roy E, who supported breaking up the company, and Saul Steinberg, fighting off the greenmail campaign did considerable harm to WDP’s cash reserves.

Disney was actually very financially stable at the time. Ray Watson was the de facto mover and shaker...

But they were “stale”...they needed new leadership...and it flew into town on a rocket.

Ron Miller’s (who isn’t fairly judged) main qualification didn’t have anything to do with skills or acumen.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Between the terrible repaint and the decor that looks like it was dreamed up in 10 minutes, the Castle is set to look worse in its Golden Anniversary than it basically ever has. It stuns me. I'm trying to forgive them given the . . . everything going on in the world . . . but it's hard to believe a brighter mind couldn't have done more with the same money. I suspect the nighttime projections will look nice, but how sad that it's up to them to salvage an icon.

I agree that Spaceship Earth will likely look very nice, but hopefully the lighting is used tastefully. Seems very much like the kind of thing where the difference between genuine beauty and mere shiny headache will fall to its programming.

Though my hope, of course, is that both projects shine and succeed. But what a shame that we have seemingly so little to look forward to.
Worse than Stitch’s Toilet Paper castle?

Well...given how the entire thing is uglified right now...yeah.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Between the terrible repaint and the decor that looks like it was dreamed up in 10 minutes, the Castle is set to look worse in its Golden Anniversary than it basically ever has. It stuns me. I'm trying to forgive them given the . . . everything going on in the world . . . but it's hard to believe a brighter mind couldn't have done more with the same money. I suspect the nighttime projections will look nice, but how sad that it's up to them to salvage an icon.

I agree that Spaceship Earth will likely look very nice, but hopefully the lighting is used tastefully. Seems very much like the kind of thing where the difference between genuine beauty and mere shiny headache will fall to its programming.

Though my hope, of course, is that both projects shine and succeed. But what a shame that we have seemingly so little to look forward to.
Whatever happens, some of the online forums will breathlessly defend it, especially Al Lutz’s old place that somehow stumbles on.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Worse than Stitch’s Toilet Paper castle?

Well...given how the entire thing is uglified right now...yeah.
That’s the problem - Stitch’s thing was a beautiful castle covered in Toilet Paper. It’s *about* to become a severely sunburnt castle covered in gold toilet paper, with another awkward medallion placed over the architectural center of the building.

Not to mention the TP only lasted one day (one day too many, for sure).
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
That's why homeowners association and me are 3 words that will NEVER be in the same sentence...
Have been in a 'mind your own business" HOA for 20 years, newcomers want to run things so I'm out. Anyone want to buy a house in the country? 1 hour to the world on I-4
 

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