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If we are willing to go with the abstract idea,an option besides my idea with the arches could be a series of large rocks,or a stone wall with the abstract design. Let me know what you think.
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Jasonflz's Team B Project 1
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Chrononymous
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A little fuzzy from just waking up...but I wanted to say I am honored to be on the team with all of you!
I really like the name Goofy's Brainstormers...genius punny!
I really do think Dinoland is gonna be a challenge.
If the main thrust of this competition is for Theme, then we have a good start because Dinosaurs...let's face it...are really pretty big weenies already, aren't they?
On the other hand, What is new and original about them? We have to compete with what is already there, in an already jam packed area, and do something original that isn't seen here yet(or in IOA's Jurassic park for that matter)
Fractal...I think your idea off putting something on the water is really great.
If a weenie is something that helps traffic flow, and draws guests to it, then would it need to include a bridge or a walkway to/through it?
I wish I had some ideas flowing, but this current illness of mine is making my brain spasm.
edited to add...I like the abstract building idea, but I also love the idea of this absolutely HUGE dinosaur sized and shaped building.
Something like a giant Teradactyl
with wings.
that move...
I really like the name Goofy's Brainstormers...genius punny!
I really do think Dinoland is gonna be a challenge.
If the main thrust of this competition is for Theme, then we have a good start because Dinosaurs...let's face it...are really pretty big weenies already, aren't they?
On the other hand, What is new and original about them? We have to compete with what is already there, in an already jam packed area, and do something original that isn't seen here yet(or in IOA's Jurassic park for that matter)
Fractal...I think your idea off putting something on the water is really great.
If a weenie is something that helps traffic flow, and draws guests to it, then would it need to include a bridge or a walkway to/through it?
I wish I had some ideas flowing, but this current illness of mine is making my brain spasm.
edited to add...I like the abstract building idea, but I also love the idea of this absolutely HUGE dinosaur sized and shaped building.
Something like a giant Teradactyl
with wings.
that move...
Chrononymous
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Ok...so some other thoughts thatjust popped into my head...
going with the idea of a large abstract structure, with various colorful dinos...I am wondering what would make people want to stroll over for a closer look.
Something interactive? like the tree of life is brilliant because it's essentially an I Spy treasure hunt. You want to look closer to see what you can find.
What kind of puzzles, or interesting features might this structure have?
Things that move, or disappear? Some sort of word riddle or code or puzzle built into the walls? Something that shifts your perception in some way?
I am also wondering if we should work with realistic depictions of dinos or with the more colorful whimsical cartoony ones already presented here?
going with the idea of a large abstract structure, with various colorful dinos...I am wondering what would make people want to stroll over for a closer look.
Something interactive? like the tree of life is brilliant because it's essentially an I Spy treasure hunt. You want to look closer to see what you can find.
What kind of puzzles, or interesting features might this structure have?
Things that move, or disappear? Some sort of word riddle or code or puzzle built into the walls? Something that shifts your perception in some way?
I am also wondering if we should work with realistic depictions of dinos or with the more colorful whimsical cartoony ones already presented here?
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^ Sounds good! Where are we putting it?
Chrononymous
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Sounds cool, though my only thought on it is that the tree of life has already been done, and it's not that far away....
maybe a large cavern, or rock wall structure would be something different...it could still have carvings of dinos in the same fashion?
My original vote was for on the water, with a connecting bridge (of bones perhaps?)
but now I am thinking over the one walkway near Theater in wild.
I apologize...I might be totally overthinking this..
maybe a large cavern, or rock wall structure would be something different...it could still have carvings of dinos in the same fashion?
My original vote was for on the water, with a connecting bridge (of bones perhaps?)
but now I am thinking over the one walkway near Theater in wild.
I apologize...I might be totally overthinking this..
WDW Vacationer
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I was thinking the same thing. The cave could be in the water and u-shaped. There would be 2 bridges,one entrance,one exit,made out of "bones" and a wooden deck. The cave would start off with abstract dinos,and bright green foliage and water. Dinos would become less and less,and the surroundings would become darker.
Plaques and video screens could tell the storyif dinosaurs.
Plaques and video screens could tell the storyif dinosaurs.
Jasonflz
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:shrug: Somewhere where it might attract people into Dinoland USA. Maybe in front of Dinosaur?
I wasn't talking about a tree....
WDW Vacationer
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I'm not sure if that will work,Jason. Looking at aerial views and maps,if we were to put it in front if the walkways near Dinosaur,it would only be seen if you were already going there. The area in red would be a possible area,yellow is where you access the path Dinosaur,blue is the path. http://twitpic.com/14g2z1
See what I'm saying?
See what I'm saying?
Fractal514
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In reading up on Dino Land, I think we have to keep in mind the theme of the land, which isn't just a land dedicated to dinosaurs, but rather, these two guys who turned a dig site into a tourist trap...
So, I was thinking along those lines... A giant Billboard advertising the attractions in the land, and old fashioned triangle design, where it rotates through several different signs, Dinosaur, The Coaster, and finally, an advertisement for the store in the base where they sell kitschy roadside toys and puzzles and souvenirs.
The second thought would be a giant radio tower made out of dinosaur bones that would feature a radio station broadcast in the area that would play popular songs with the lyrics changed to reflect dinosaurs. In the base of the tower would be a radio studio where you could see an audio animatronic DJ who we could figure out and theme later.
Thoughts?
So, I was thinking along those lines... A giant Billboard advertising the attractions in the land, and old fashioned triangle design, where it rotates through several different signs, Dinosaur, The Coaster, and finally, an advertisement for the store in the base where they sell kitschy roadside toys and puzzles and souvenirs.
The second thought would be a giant radio tower made out of dinosaur bones that would feature a radio station broadcast in the area that would play popular songs with the lyrics changed to reflect dinosaurs. In the base of the tower would be a radio studio where you could see an audio animatronic DJ who we could figure out and theme later.
Thoughts?
MANEATINGWREATH
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Ideas?
Gad, sorry I'm late I forgot that most of us live in different time zones. :dazzle:
Well first off here's to a good competition guys! Let the games begin, or as we say in the world of us dramies, "Break a leg!"
Ok well here's my input on the suggested ideas so far. Forgive me if we have already decided on one.
The weenie needs to fit in with the rest of the land. We don't need something random and bizarre-colored sticking out in the middle of a land that is the quite opposite from it. I'm not dissing the idea that we have now, I'm just saying in general that the weenie should keep up with the look of the rest of the land. Kind of like how the Tower of Terror matches its 1930's/40's Hollywood surroundings and the Matterhorn matches the Bavarian village located at its foot. If we had a big dinosaur arch-thing in the middle of a jungle-like area, it may seem a little bit off. But heck that's just me, I get really picky when making things like this.
What I think the land could use is possibly something along the lines of a volcano. But a volcano is so often times connected to dinosaurs, and that may just be pushing it a little too far. I like the Tree of Extinction idea that Kermit suggested but another tree of the same height with pretty much the same features as the one right across the path would be very odd indeed.
Apparently that Brontosaurus skeleton at the entrance to the land (I think her name is "Dino Sue," am I right?) is considered to be a weenie.
http://www.disneyworld-guide.com/Animal Kingdom/animal%20kingdom.jpg
As you can see by the map of Animal Kingdom we don't have all that much space to work with in Dinoland. I don't really want to have anything big and awkward thrown into the middle of the land to block people from seeing the entrance to DINOSAUR. Perhaps getting rid of TriceraTop Spin or Primeval Whirl (That whole area is very old Paradise Pier to me pre-makeover) but then again that area is very close to Expedition Everest in a way. Two big weenies next to each other may look odd. Also if we put the weenie there it would be kind of blocking the area leading towards "Finding Nemo: The Musical."
I don't know I'm kind of stumped here. :shrug:
Gad, sorry I'm late I forgot that most of us live in different time zones. :dazzle:
Well first off here's to a good competition guys! Let the games begin, or as we say in the world of us dramies, "Break a leg!"
Ok well here's my input on the suggested ideas so far. Forgive me if we have already decided on one.
The weenie needs to fit in with the rest of the land. We don't need something random and bizarre-colored sticking out in the middle of a land that is the quite opposite from it. I'm not dissing the idea that we have now, I'm just saying in general that the weenie should keep up with the look of the rest of the land. Kind of like how the Tower of Terror matches its 1930's/40's Hollywood surroundings and the Matterhorn matches the Bavarian village located at its foot. If we had a big dinosaur arch-thing in the middle of a jungle-like area, it may seem a little bit off. But heck that's just me, I get really picky when making things like this.
What I think the land could use is possibly something along the lines of a volcano. But a volcano is so often times connected to dinosaurs, and that may just be pushing it a little too far. I like the Tree of Extinction idea that Kermit suggested but another tree of the same height with pretty much the same features as the one right across the path would be very odd indeed.
Apparently that Brontosaurus skeleton at the entrance to the land (I think her name is "Dino Sue," am I right?) is considered to be a weenie.
http://www.disneyworld-guide.com/Animal Kingdom/animal%20kingdom.jpg
As you can see by the map of Animal Kingdom we don't have all that much space to work with in Dinoland. I don't really want to have anything big and awkward thrown into the middle of the land to block people from seeing the entrance to DINOSAUR. Perhaps getting rid of TriceraTop Spin or Primeval Whirl (That whole area is very old Paradise Pier to me pre-makeover) but then again that area is very close to Expedition Everest in a way. Two big weenies next to each other may look odd. Also if we put the weenie there it would be kind of blocking the area leading towards "Finding Nemo: The Musical."
I don't know I'm kind of stumped here. :shrug:
Chrononymous
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oh good...I am glad I misread the bit about the tree. My bad. Brain fuzzies again!:veryconfu
I don't have photo shop right now,(due to recent computer crash) but I would offer my humble drawing/painting skills for this project.
(you can all see my art in t he last two practice projects)
I do think you have brought up a good point, Fractal...in that the 50's roadside attraction kind of trumps the dinos in most of the area.
I am sort of liking the radio tower idea too. Kermitdefrog also had a radio station idea a page back.
But would that consitute an "attraction"?
On either a cave of dinos, or a billboard, or whatever building we decide on...my thought is that we need a big larger than life eye catching ...something.
Giant flying pteradactyls are still on my mind!:lookaroun
I don't have photo shop right now,(due to recent computer crash) but I would offer my humble drawing/painting skills for this project.
(you can all see my art in t he last two practice projects)
I do think you have brought up a good point, Fractal...in that the 50's roadside attraction kind of trumps the dinos in most of the area.
I am sort of liking the radio tower idea too. Kermitdefrog also had a radio station idea a page back.
But would that consitute an "attraction"?
On either a cave of dinos, or a billboard, or whatever building we decide on...my thought is that we need a big larger than life eye catching ...something.
Giant flying pteradactyls are still on my mind!:lookaroun
Chrononymous
Well-Known Member
The weenie needs to fit in with the rest of the land. We don't need something random and bizarre-colored sticking out in the middle of a land that is the quite opposite from it. I'm not dissing the idea that we have now, I'm just saying in general that the weenie should keep up with the look of the rest of the land. Kind of like how the Tower of Terror matches its 1930's/40's Hollywood surroundings and the Matterhorn matches the Bavarian village located at its foot. If we had a big dinosaur arch-thing in the middle of a jungle-like area, it may seem a little bit off. But heck that's just me, I get really picky when making things like this.
:shrug:
My recollection of the land is all tacky and brightly colored!
But you are right...there are some more tree lined jungle-y areas that we may have to make use of as our only space.
fitting the theme...splitting the theme between dino institute of Dinosaur, with it's realism, and the carnival dino vomit colors of the rest of the land...might be our biggest challenge!
Fractal514
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What if the radio tower had a giant Pteradactyl circling the top of it?
Also, what if we combined the BillBoard and the Radio Tower, by having a building at the base which is the station, the bill board on top of that, and then the tower growing out of that with the giant Lizard Bird flapping at the top.
Also, what if we combined the BillBoard and the Radio Tower, by having a building at the base which is the station, the bill board on top of that, and then the tower growing out of that with the giant Lizard Bird flapping at the top.
mewhunter67
Member
Hey guys! Sorry i've been out; I work all day!
Glad to be working with some great individuals. So far, I love what i've seen
And fractal had a good point, don't forget the story of the land... *ahem* lemme look in the imagineering guide to AK... wow, so many notes... :
apparently, it was jsut a small town, until the discover of the dinos... some residents take up on the money-making (chester and hester) with their park, souvenir shop etc. the Dino institute was founded, along with the stereotypical stuffiness (and teh fun made at them by C&H) to study all of them. Apparently, a lot of the graffiti and random works of art and jokes are actually done by 'grad students' at the intitute, working out their school stress.... theres a lot more, but thats the basics.
Glad to be working with some great individuals. So far, I love what i've seen
And fractal had a good point, don't forget the story of the land... *ahem* lemme look in the imagineering guide to AK... wow, so many notes... :
apparently, it was jsut a small town, until the discover of the dinos... some residents take up on the money-making (chester and hester) with their park, souvenir shop etc. the Dino institute was founded, along with the stereotypical stuffiness (and teh fun made at them by C&H) to study all of them. Apparently, a lot of the graffiti and random works of art and jokes are actually done by 'grad students' at the intitute, working out their school stress.... theres a lot more, but thats the basics.
mewhunter67
Member
*i broke my post up to make it easier to pick thru*
as much as we know what we're dealing with, let's just keep throwing out ideas, like we've mostly been doing, and then worry about the specifics (lack of space, cramped, location, etc), unless it somehow fits it with a creative spark (i love the water weenie!)
we sort of have a weenie of sorts, provided by chester and hester, in the form of the giant yellow dino on one side, and the similarly sized and specie'd bones on the other (most likely by the institute to combat C&H)
Maybe we can have a way to combine both sides? sort of a compromise between both forces of the land? i've been thinking of an awesome structure of sorts, built by dino bones, be it a gate, sculpture, or what have you.
Has anyone ever seen the tower of the four winds, for the world's fair 'it's a small world'? It was this amazing kinetic sculpture done by Rolly crump. maybe something similar, but with bones?
A Bone Mobile! with flying dinos! and some Chester and hester style dinos playing on it like a playground!
sorry, had a brain spark there
anyway, that's some of what's been brewing today...
as much as we know what we're dealing with, let's just keep throwing out ideas, like we've mostly been doing, and then worry about the specifics (lack of space, cramped, location, etc), unless it somehow fits it with a creative spark (i love the water weenie!)
we sort of have a weenie of sorts, provided by chester and hester, in the form of the giant yellow dino on one side, and the similarly sized and specie'd bones on the other (most likely by the institute to combat C&H)
Maybe we can have a way to combine both sides? sort of a compromise between both forces of the land? i've been thinking of an awesome structure of sorts, built by dino bones, be it a gate, sculpture, or what have you.
Has anyone ever seen the tower of the four winds, for the world's fair 'it's a small world'? It was this amazing kinetic sculpture done by Rolly crump. maybe something similar, but with bones?
A Bone Mobile! with flying dinos! and some Chester and hester style dinos playing on it like a playground!
sorry, had a brain spark there
anyway, that's some of what's been brewing today...
mewhunter67
Member
I just noticed chrononymous had a similar idea of wedding the two sides...
so, what she said!
so, what she said!