Trip Report It's a Great Big Beautiful California- COMPLETED

OK...I would like to first apologize for all of the trip reports I have neglected. Work was chaos, the holidays consumed my world, and well...life happened...a lot. But...I will do my best to do more reading and commenting in the near future.

I also have a trip report of my own to bring you...a trip that I still can't believe has come and gone. The reporting is also going to take a little bit longer since I'm doing something a bit different this time. I'm going to be posting on here as well as another forum (I know...such a traitor), so it's going to be a more time consuming process.

Now, for those of you who don't know me and aren't familiar with my trip reports...I'm Sandy ... aka HouCuseChickie (and also TiggerTrigger in a few other places). Obviously, I'm the one with the hat and glasses!

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Sorry, huge pictures. I borrowed them from my Facebook galleries.

And another huge picture, but these are our girls (younger one pictured with me above)...
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That's Kendall (age 9) on the left and Sammie (age 7 and very toothless) on the right. It's hard to believe these two were just 4 and 2 on my first trip report.

Finally, we've got DH...who will be referred to as such throughout, unless I slip up. LOL. He probably wouldn't be too happy that I'm using this pic, but this was him at the end of "Movember" after growing out his moustache. We're all happy that he shaved it off on December 1st.

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So, that's us...but it's been a while since I did anything with my PTR, so some refreshers and updates on the details of the trip...especially the final details. And for those of you who have seen my previous reports, I promise you tons and tons of pics- and even a few videos, but let's recap a bit with the plan and get up to date on some things.

This all started as a "Let's go to Disneyland for the 60th anniversary festivities" trip, which spiraled into so much more. DH reminded me (aka- total guilt trip) that I'd promised him a ski trip. Well, the only way I could get this to work with Disneyland and not have it get too crazy with the budget (or so I thought) was to ski in California. So, the Big Bear- Mammoth-Tahoe debate was started and Mammoth won. All my CA friends said it was better skiing than Big Bear and it's closer and a smidge cheaper than Tahoe.

Plans and costs started to get crazy as dates and transportation started to factor in. We were planning on Disneyland from December 27th-31st and Mammoth on December 31st-January 3rd. In fact, this is what we had the girls believing were our vacay dates until the very end (more on that in a bit). But...I remembered how my parents saved a ton flying on Christmas last year and the dog's boarding facility would take her no later than December 23rd, so leaving on Christmas day started to sound like the better plan. In fact, the one-way cost of our Christmas day flights was something like $150 cheaper per person than the flight I was eyeing for the 27th. So, a Christmas day departure became a reality...and the trip grew by 2 days. But before all was said and done, the trip grew by 1 more day. January 3rd was a Sunday and flights were much more expensive than January 4th. The kids were still off from school on the 4th, so we extended the trip 1 more day. We also decided the extended trip would be the kids' big Christmas present. More on that coming up.

Somewhere in the process of this, as I was planning details of our drive to Mammoth, I found out that California has really strict tire chain laws during winter. Couple that with the taxes that can double the cost of your rental and I decided to bite the bullet and fly from LA to Mammoth. I waited and waited for prices to drop back to the lows I'd seen earlier in the year and by late September, it finally happened. Or so I thought. Just days before the trip, I realized I booked our air in reverse. Instead of LA to Mammoth, I booked Mammoth to LA. I was under a lot of stress at work at the time of this booking and even though I checked things at least 5 or 6 times, I misread all of it. It would have cost more than twice the price of those flights to change everything, so we just ate the cost, booked a rental, came up with a plan for the tire chains, and nervously prayed we wouldn't need to use our plan. There are a couple of silver linings with this that will come at the end of the report.

Now here's where some of the biggest fun came in during the pre-trip time. In late November/early December, it hit me that I really needed a plan to give the girls all of their trip gifts as well as the big gift. We'd be leaving for the airport before 7am on Christmas morning, so there was no time for anything but the big gift that day. Now, we're a dual religion household and between me celebrating Hanukkah and DH celebrating Christmas...I figured we could work it all out with that. Before looking at the calendar, I decided we'd do gifts for the 8 nights of Hanukkah and the 12 days of Christmas. I just didn't realize that it would all match up perfectly so we'd have 20 straight days of gifts. It may sound like a lot, but it was all trip related stuff...stuff to show the girls that $ goes into the fun stuff and the necessities... and that it can be just as fun (if not more) to have it all be part of amazing experiences. Sammie still believes in Santa, so I also had to make it believable. So, I wrote a rhyming letter from Santa talking about how the Christmas gift is so big that DH and I would need to play elves for 11 of the 12 days of Christmas. It even had Santa's signature and the North Pole seal.

During Hanukkah, the kids got things like snow boots, Disney Vans, ski bibs, winter gear, clothes, etc. The 12 days of Christmas were a bit more fun. We started out with character hats for autographs like they requested when we were at the GF back in August, a whale watching cruise, made with the magic wands, a GoPro style camera to record their adventures, stockings full of pins/new lanyards/lip balms/etc., and one of my fave days- Star Wars tickets. We gifted them Star Wars tickets for the trip on the day the movie opened, but it's how we did it that made it a ton of fun. Back in 2014, we built lightsabers for them in DHS and they've held up really well. So, on Dec 18th, while the girls were eating breakfast, I came out of the bedroom wearing one of those audio Chewbacca mask and challenged DH to a lightsaber battle with Sammie's purple lightsaber. DH had Kendall's red one hidden under the couch and we battled it out in the living room. It would eventually hit the kids that they were seeing the movie, but initially, they were more interested in the mask. In fact, here's Sammie (as Chewbacca) wishing everyone a very merry Christmas.



My MIL almost ruined the surprise on Christmas Eve, but thankfully the kids didn't hear and they went to bed totally clueless. Before they woke up, I modified the countdown calendar they'd been using to show the 25th instead of the 27th as our departure day, had a new letter from Santa revealing the surprise, and put the packed bags around the tree- with bows on their packed carry ons. What's really amazing is that when the focus for gifts was shifted away from toys, the only thing the girls were really wishing for this Christmas was for the trip to get here sooner. So, they actually received their Christmas wish.

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The girls were so tired when we woke up them up and were reading without really comprehending when they first read Santa's note, but they read it a second time- it all clicked- and we had some utterly giddy girls.

Coming up...Christmas Day- Travel Day
 

HouCuseChickie

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January 2nd

So, we'd heard that there was a chance of some snow...early morning snow...but nothing major. I really didn't think it looked all that bad.

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The pics from my phone (above) make it look more gloomy, but the ones on my DSLR don't look as bad...

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I really didn't think it was all that bad, but I started getting emails and texts from my dad who was very concerned. I mean, we are at a ski resort...they kind of need it to snow now and then so people have snow to ski on. The next major "dump" wasn't expected until late on the 3rd or early on the 4th, so this was just supposed to be shower. No biggie...right? It really wasn't bad...but it was enough to put chain restriction on pretty much ever road in and around Mammoth. So, while we didn't need any chains on our way in, we might be in trouble if the sun doesn't come out and heat things up.

I can't do anything about it so I see if the kids want to play in the snow. Kendall is content to sleep, but Sammie is up and game so she and I suit up in snow gear and head out to the garage roof area. We took the GoPro with us and we thought we were getting some great vidoe, but we'd find out that was not the case. Still, we were having a blast chasing each other down and flopped into mounds of fluffy powdery snow. I've never played in powder before, but there was no way to make snow balls or snow men. So, lots of snow angels would have to do. Not sure how long we were outside, but we'd eventually come in and find DH and K just chilling out and watching tv. I put the GoPro down on the dresser, under the tv, and get some things organized for the rest of the day. When I come back out, I decide to try and upload the memory card data. There are small videos on there, but they are all of the tv in the room. I guess it wasn't turning off (we'd had issues with it, as I noted) and I guess it kept overwriting what it recorded vs. saying the card is full. So, now I had about 11 small videos of the tv and the ceiling. I have no idea what's up with the camera, but it's been sitting in a closet since the trip because I'm still just so ticked off at it.

While we hadn't fully decided on this, we pretty much came to the conclusion that there was no fair way for DH and Kendall to ski. We had a talk with the girls, more in depth, about their lessons the previous day and it would turn out that Kendall's really was more about skiing and Sammie's...well, there was no way she was ready to get up on a lift. For Kendall, they went over fundamentals all morning, took a fast lunch at the main lodge cafeteria, and then went over some key skills before starting on the lifts. Sammie...she went over some stuff...then they took the kids up on the gondola to see the same top of the mountain stuff DH and I saw...they had lunch at the Yodler...and then spent what was left that afternoon going over some skills in that little area. Kendall was furious and it would be an issue for a while. We go looking around for some lunch options with happy kid and grumpy kid and wind up back at the Yodeler.

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This time, I try an alcoholic hot apple pie drink.

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When we were in the Yodeler the day before, we saw people getting the giant pretzel on the menu. We didn't want to get it until we had the kids with us and we were hoping it would help get Kendall out of her funk. So, I present to you...the big pretzel.

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DH's hand should offer some decent perspective. Both kids were kind of anti-pretzel until they were forced to try a piece with cheese...and then all they wanted was pretzel.

DH got a personal pizza...half of which would come back to the room with us.

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K got a burger.

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Sam got a kiddie pizza...which was really just half of an adult pizza.

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And I guess I was missing HBD, so I got a Cobb salad (which would pale in comparison to HBD's)

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Oh...and while I still wasn't 100%...I was feeling much better today. Well, minus my nerves over the road conditions and restrictions.

We decided to go check out the rental's tires for size and head into town...and maybe just suck it up and buy chains. We'd already seen a number of vehicles this day at the resort with them (and a few the previous days), so I was getting a pretty good idea of what we might want. The cheapest chains, which would have only run us about $30, also seemed to be the variety I kept seeing that were broken. The sound of tire chains smacking against a bumper or fender was LOUD and in several cases...highly destructive. We didn't want that on a rental, so I remember some advice I'd received on one Disney forum saying that the cable variety is more stable. They'd cost more like $85-130, but still less than what we'd be coughing up if cheap chains ripped up the rental's fender or bumper. So, I take a pic of the wheel...

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I realize I can't tell a single thing from this pic, so I get down on the parking garage floor and try and get some close ups. And this is what I get in my first pic...

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Do you see that M + S ??? That's MUD & SNOW!!! I danced around the car! The tires covered the state snow tire minimums!!! And while one area of the main route out was at R2 level - meaning tire chains or AWD/4WD, there was a way around this that was all R1 level that was chains or snow tires. Now technically, if even this restriction is up, you're supposed to have chains with you...but...the weather was improving and there was no snow expected for a while. We decided to skip buying chains. BREAKING THE LAW!!!

It's still pretty early in the day and everyone was in a better mood (for now), so we head into town on the red line. The bus area is right at the end of the drive for our resort, so pretty convenient. We saw an older man slip as he was climbing onto the bus, have his feet fly out from under him, and fall backwards off the bus...smacking his head on the pavement. I really thought it was going to be bad...it looked ugly. But some people helped him up and he got onto the bus without issue. We were careful to watch our step as a result.

My riding buddy...

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Waving good-bye to the main lodge area for a bit.

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HouCuseChickie

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We stop in the Village area, and Sammie makes a friend.

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And we're wandering...

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We go into one of the main resorts in the Village area and while I take my typical pics...

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DH wanted to know why I didn't opt to stay here. I would have loved to, but it was another $250 a night and we were already paying the equivalent of WDW Deluxe resort pricing.

We went back out to go in search of a store with some sodas.

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It was an overpriced general store, but it did sell liquor and that and soup seemed to be the big draw for everyone in there. DH bought his soda and we decided to walk a bit more...

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Village tree...

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There's also a lift in this part of town.

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There was very little to do in town, so we got back on the bus.

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The drive was scenic, but nothing all that interesting. We just went through a lot of areas where I guess people commonly stay if they're renting condos or in timeshares. We confused the heck out of the driver too because I don't think he's used to people going round trip. We had debated about staying in the village area for dinner, but we didn't see anything so worth it that we'd want to deal with the courtesy shuttle. So, we head back. We'd also return the rentals at this point, which put both girls in a bit of a funk.

So, after a rest...it was another night of dinner at the resort. I think this was the night where a really stuffy group sat next to us and went on to the server how their food and service was more 4 star vs. the 3 star they were getting on the various websites. They also must have seen my DL Retro Dooney, because they spent a solid 20 minutes talking Disney...and it was mainly WDW. They were loud and while most of the stuff was OK...there were a few times, as a Disney fanatic, that I wanted to jump in and be like NO...NO NO NO! It wasn't huge stuff, but if you're going to talk loud and start convos b/c of my Disney gear, I sometimes feel like I deserve to jump into your convo and set you straight. I held my tongue.

Beyond the people at the table next to us, I ordered the macaroni with prawns and asparagus again, and the girls were thrilled that Mo would be our server again.

We weren't quite ready to call it a night, so we headed over to the lounge with the kids. Oh yea...kids in the bar!

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Hey! They had crayons! And really...it was dead in there that night.

And I'm not talking about them pretending to be zombies.

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DH and I each had a few drinks...and we all just sat there watching the groom the mountain (those lights through the window are all the vehicles grooming)

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HouCuseChickie

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It was also getting pretty windy out there. Check out the flags!

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Somewhere on round 2 of drinks, the girls started being all secretive and may or may not have been plotting against us.

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We were checking out the next day to head back to LA for our final vacation night, so I suggested we get back to the room so I could start packing...again. While we had a good plan in place for the chain restrictions, we knew the next day would be warmer and sunny, so...no need to wake up super early. Just enough to get everything in order and be in Bishop by lunch and give the roads some extra thaw time. It was a Sunday, so there wouldn't be rush hour in LA, but we surely weren't the only people driving back to LA after the holiday weekend...and there's often traffic in LA...so we didn't want to stick around in the mountains too long either.



Coming up...pets and receipts?, the drive out, lunch, our insane car, the insane bathroom stop, back in LA for one last night.
 

HouCuseChickie

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January 3rd

I guess we all slept in some. Check out wasn't until noon, but I didn't want to wait that long to get on the road. Still, I was up first and wanted everyone to rest, so I tried finishing up the packing while not being too disruptive. In all of my packing, I noticed our express check out receipt had been slipped under our door. I was expecting it to be the resort fees I was unaware of when we booked, but it was more than that...A LOT more than that. They charged me over a hundred dollars in pet fees for EACH day of our stay. Funny, but last time I checked, the dog was at our boarding facility in Texas and I was paying for her to be there. I was already bothered with everything from check in and the quality of the room, but this really ticked me off. Everyone was starting to wake up, so I called the front desk. I wound up speaking to the same girl who checked us in and she said she could have sworn I said we have a dog. Maybe it was an honest mistake, but accidentally charging me close to $350 doesn't sit well with me. She said she'd remove it from the bill and I could come down to get an updated check out statement with the amount removed.

Sammie must have heard me getting upset, because she looked like she was ready to throw a punch.

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We loaded up the car after this, but decided to head to the front desk to get the new statement before moving the car out of our prime spot in the garage.

I thought it would be simple enough to get an updated statement, but oh how wrong I was. I wind up with the same girl again at the front desk and she again says that she could have sworn we had a dog at check in. I clarified that we own a dog, but that she's in Texas and that we don't fly with her. Seriously!!?!?!? So, then she can't print the receipt, so she has to get her manager. The manager then claims it's so hard because I didn't book directly from them so it's hard for them to get a receipt for something that was done with third party billing. And I'm like...well, you somehow found a way to bill me for the resort fees and the erroneous pet fees, so it should have no impact whatsoever on how I booked my main reservation. They looked confused. I didn't know any clearer way to explain it, so I was like LOOK...reverse the charges and make up something on your letterhead now that reflects the proper billing. And wouldn't you know it, they magically had a new billing statement for me confirming the reversed charges in just a couple of minutes.

I was livid and ready to get the heck outta there. We all walked to the car and before DH pulled out, I checked the CalTran map and as luck would have it, the road restrictions had all recently changed to R1...meaning snow tires were sufficient. Yeah, breaking the law for not having chains on us, but at this point...we just wanted out and we were willing to take the chance based on the lack of police enforcement we'd seen the day before. The roads in and out of Mammoth aren't as steep and narrow like what you see in Colorado and traffic was light, so...well, so be it. DH drove and I took pics as we made our way out...

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Not sure if you can read that sign, but it says chains required...snow tired OK autos and pick ups -carry chains. So, we're just not carrying chains...all else is good.

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And now we're finally getting out of the town area...

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As much as I didn't love Mammoth...it is a pretty area...

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This would also be the start of my ears popping. I think I'm developing inner ear issues as I get older. I know - I know...enough with the old stuff...but seriously, my ears pop so much more these days.

Oh, and let me introduce you to our insane radio system in the Malibu...

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It may have been my old messed up phone confusing it...but every time we plugged my phone into the USB port, it would do very strange things. Sometimes it would take over the navigation and it would sound like a bad Dr. Who episode. Seriously, it would just start barking out random driving commands in that Siri voice. "You have arrived - your destination is in 500 ft - your destination is in 1000 - at the next intersection do a U Turn - at the roundabout - at the roundabout - at the roundabout - your desitination is on the right." It was so creepy! And then it would play my custom ring tones underneath...so we kept hearing a very faint Baroque Hoedown from MSEP or Boo To You from the MNSSHP parade in the background. And then sometimes it would flip all of this off to a satellite channel. It was crazy.

We get to Bishop and everyone seems to want breakfast, so we go cheap and go to Denny's.

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Denny's was also still in holiday mode with food and decor.

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HouCuseChickie

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If you look closely, you can even see the Denny's Christmas tree in the pic above.

We were relaxing, just watching some football over our meals, but we really needed to hit the road again...

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We'd grab some gas a little farther up the road and start heading back to LA. At some point, the kids needed to use the restroom, so we stopped at this strange random gas station. It had lots of signs that the bathrooms were only for paying customers. OK...we'll buy some sodas...but the store had no lights on inside and it was filled with odd little souvenir pieces and collectibles that were not so collectible. We get to the bathrooms and it looks like the toilets haven't been flushed for weeks...yet it doesn't smell. And there are signs saying they are having plumbing issues. So, I guess the toilets just wouldn't flush. We got out and I begged DH to buy sodas fast and get out...just seemed really off. Another couple showed up while we were there and it was a similar reaction for them.

I drove the rest of the way into LA and to our hotel for the night. I know some people like to get away to the country, but having grown up in the NY metro area, I seem to be much happier in the mess of suburbia in a major city. So, even though we hit a bit of traffic, I was really happy to be back in the LA area.

Our hotel for the night was right near LAX...in El Segundo to be exact. What's funny...we were only about 5-10 minutes away from our lodging those first few nights in Manhattan Beach. When I first booked this place, it was when I thought we'd be flying back from Mammoth and was hoping to use their free shuttle to and from LAX. I decided to stick with it since it would be good for getting to LAX with plenty of time on our return day.

The hotel was nothing overly exciting (although it was the girls' fave of the whole trip), but it was a Hyatt Place, which is pretty good for generic business travel. Nice...clean...modern...courteous staff...good wifi...and nice free breakfast. We check in with no issues and head up to our room. Well, not before the girls get all silly over the water wall and lobby decor.

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I think they all pretty much look like this...

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The room was also nice and spacious...

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For as close as we were to LAX (and we were close), we didn't hear a single bit of jet noise.

I think DH was really done with being on vacay, so we just did nothing until dinner. My MIL had given us gift cards for Christmas that she was hoping we could use for food while we were away. Mine was a Disney one and I put it towards our meal at Cafe Orleans, but DH's was for Outback Steakhouse. Not my favorite place, but I'm not going to complain at cutting the cost of a meal. We look online and the closest Outback is in Torrance. Not exactly a quick drive, but nobody wanted to go with my suggestion of In-N-Out burger...so, we drive to Torrance. The drive also reminded me of how I could go from there to get back to Anaheim if we wanted to see fireworks. Hey, I could also try and get a pic of Randy's Donuts...which we passed on our way out that day. But nobody was really up for that, so it was just a trip to Torrance.

The wait at Outback was LOOOOOONG because they have call ahead put your name on the list. We weren't really thinking about any of that, so we had just shown up. It also wouldn't help that the girls' tummies were still not 100%. We would eventually be seated, have a decent meal, and make the drive back to El Segundo.

We get back to the hotel, get everyone ready for bed and I start doing the final pack up. I remember finding the girls' Disney autograph hats in their carryon bags and having this mix of...I love how they turned out AND I can't believe this trip is pretty much over. Still, I think the hats turned out great.

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(still space for Donald to sign)

The hats are now hanging in their room near other park faves like their pin collection royal corkboard and homemade Frozen inspired snow globes.

The last thing I did before I tried to sleep was secure our luggage tags. The new American Tourister ones provided by Disney are super cute...

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...but they don't stay on as well as the older cheaper ones.



Coming up...our last day.
 

HouCuseChickie

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January 4th

Our flight was around 10:30am PT and LAX isn't exactly a tiny airport, so we wanted to get an early start. We also knew we'd have very little chance to eat, so we took full advantage of the Hyatt's complimentary breakfast. There was everything from cereal, muffins and bagels, to French toast, sausage, bacon and eggs. We also grabbed some extra containers of cereal as snacks for the plane.

It was a quick drive to the rental car place and then it was a matter of catching a shuttle to the airport. DH saw one for the company we used for the first rental so he ran down to ask them if we could use their services. The answer was no...which was fine, because our shuttle was there 2 minutes later. The kids were going nuts because there are these pretty light up elements at LAX and we were driving by all of them (even if it was in daylight). We were flying Southwest, which apparently doesn't allow stopping right in front of their doors. Our driver tried to pull farther up, but there was a big tour bus dropping off a football team that I guess had been in the area for some kind of bowl game (wasn't Rose). So, we got out and lugged everything a ways back to the Southwest area.

I had checked us in the previous day and was able to get boarding group A, so I was feeling pretty good about things. We added some new tags to some of the bags and jumped into the much shorter line for just checking bags. In the process, a women working for LAX started to gush over my bag. At home, the only people who seem to say anything about my Disney bags think it's kind of silly, I was complimented 5 or 6 times (while off Disney property) and even DH started to take notice. Even the day before, I was going through the lobby of the Hyatt and a woman checking in was carrying the letter carrier version of my bag and clearly noticed I was holding the matching wristlet. In any event, it was a nice little perk of the trip.

We got through everything with the bags, but they were so overloaded with bags...they couldn't put them on the belt and asked us to walk the bags over to a side area. It didn't look very secure, so we actually stayed there until we could confirm our bags were handled properly. Still odd.

Before we left the area, we did see one of the last signs of the holidays being put up.

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We made our way through security and had lots of time until our flight. We did see one or two other random decorative balls, which I'm sure would be gone before the end of the day.

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(hanging at the gate)

Before long, it was time to board...and this time, both girls wanted to be with me.

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(she found a hidden Donald!)

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We push back from the gate and I get one last good view of LA.

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The take off pattern reminded me a lot of how it's done in Ft. Lauderdale. You take off, going out over the ocean, and then u-turn back to land.

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We settled in for a LONG flight. While not quite as long as going to the east coast from LA, we were stopping in New Orleans on the way back. Yes, we'd be flying over Houston before turning back to come home. It felt just as crazy as it sounds, but it also saved me several hundred dollars.

So, we have fun with fruit loops...

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They gave us little kits to build airplanes as well as wings.

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Thankfully, we had tv on this flight...so that helped A LOT. At one point, I remember looking down and realizing we were over Texas...and remembering just how huge the state is. Eventually, I would recognize Baton Rouge from the air and eventually, the route we'd take into NOLA.

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We landed in New Orleans, moved up a few rows on the plane, and Kendall went back to sitting with DH. Part of us really wanted to get off in New Orleans. Some good friends would be arriving two days later for a 50th bday long weekend, but we just thought it would be too much after spending all this time in CA. So, we'd wave good-bye to New Orleans...

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Sammie and I take a few funny filter pics to pass the last portion of flight time...

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And it looks like we're almost home...

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Actually, speaking of home...our neighborhood...and pretty much our side of town...seems to be one big flight path for flights coming into Hobby. We see planes fly directly over our house all the time, but we've never before been on that path...until now. I was looking out the window and while we live pretty far out - like super remote burbs - things started to look familiar. And then I saw the highway just outside our neighborhood and everything that would be to the right and left of our home. We were going right over top of our house! Goofy, but kind of cool.

After that, it's luggage...shuttle to my vehicle...and the drive home. Since I'd missed over a week of lighting the holiday lights and I'm not totally ready for the holidays to be over, I light all of the lights and the kids get under the tree for a Big Thumbs up to Santa for a great trip!

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Coming up...some final thoughts.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Conclusion...

So, I'm ending this report almost exactly 2 months after this trip started...and like usual, the act of doing an ultra-thorough TR helped me past the dreaded post trip depression. Just a few final thoughts I'd like to share...

CA in general - While I don't want to sell FL short, since I know there is plenty to do there beyond WDW, Uni, etc. ... in California ... there's just so much to see that I couldn't imagine going there just for Disneyland. That's not to say it wouldn't be fun, but we only scratched the surface. If we hadn't gone skiing, maybe we would have spent some time in San Diego...maybe even San Francisco! Still, California isn't cheap. Between gas prices and all of the extra taxes and fees for this, that and the other thing...costs add up quickly. In light of that, DH doesn't want me to plan any trips back any time soon. I still think we will end up back at some point, but it will be a while.

LAX - it's really not bad. Again...maybe I'm just used to big airports, but I have no regrets with flying in and out of here. It saved us a lot of $ and was never a headache. And by headache...I mean crying your eyes out and cursing.

Disneyland - I think it goes without saying that it's a must for any Disney fan and I think it will hit everyone differently. For me, I really enjoyed it and wouldn't mind a second visit at some point, but it's not my home park and I guess 30+ years of WDW memories with my family still trump going to Walt's park.

Good Neighbor Hotels - Maybe I would have felt more of the magic bubble if we stayed at one of the three Disney hotels, but I'm not so sure. If we go back at some point, I would like to stay at the GC or the DLH to find out. Still, the HoJo was great for the price and location...and there are so many convenient options on Harbor.

Mammoth - It should be no surprise that was not my favorite part of the trip and with California's tire chain laws, it's just too much of a pain to be a repeat ski destination for us. I have a friend who has been going to Tahoe a lot of late and was wondering how they dealt with it. It was a mess of options that were all a pain that caused a lot of travel stress for them as well. In light of this, New Mexico is next in our plans for skiing. At least that's a relatively easy drive.

The bad airfare - First off, I'm thankful that I didn't book the one that would have taken us through San Franciso. Not that I wouldn't have minded a quick spin through through San Fran, but considering how much I botched booking simple r/t air between LA and Mammoth, I can't imagine how much my stressed out brain would have destroyed things if I tried to plan in a stop in San Francisco. There was a silver lining with this. I emailed the airline...made it very clear that it was my mistake and I was not seeking a refund or any exceptions, but just that they needed to examine their customer service training for these situations. i.e. mistakes happen, but their representative's poor attitude and reaction to my error wasn't a great reflection of the high level of service I'd heard their firm would usually provide. I never got irate...if anything, you could tell I was on the verge of tears. I honestly was just looking to hear that they were sorry that the service I received didn't meet their standards and that they'd be addressing this with the rep and their mgmt. I guess they waited until both parts of the air went unused, because a few days after we got home, I got an email saying they were making an exception and refunding my money! I was shocked.

The holidays - I'm not going to lie...it was crowded. That being said, there were only a handful of times where the crowds really frustrated me. I always hear people saying how there is no slow time left in the parks, but maybe it's because all of our early trips were spring break or 4th of July...or maybe it's because the bulk of my WDW experience is from the pre-fast pass world...but it really didn't bother me that much and I don't think it hurt the quality of our trip. We certainly got to ride everything we set out to ride. So, is it the ideal time to go...no. And maybe my background gives me a higher tolerance for crowds or a different definition of what crowded really is. I don't know, but it was still really enjoyable. So, if the holidays are the best time for you to go, don't let someone freak you out and tell you it's awful and miserable. It reminds me a lot of how people flip out over the summer in FL. Everyone has different tolerances, and maybe Christmas or August is a nightmare for them...but keep you in mind...because you may be just fine and be able to enjoy a time when it's just too much for some.

The future - DH really wants to put the house on the market next spring and we have a lot of work to do to get it ready. In light of that, I don't see anything Disney being in the budget for a while. We MAY (big may) wind up in Orlando this July for the DIS Unplugged's 10th Anniversary event, but if we do it...it will be on the cheap. 2018 is probably the next time we'll be able to do a big trip. I put three options on the table, so I can start researching...

1. Uni Orlando/Cruise/WDW
2. Uni Hollywood/Aulani/DL
3. San Fran/Alaskan cruise

So far, #1 is getting all the votes. At Uni, the lodging would probably be either Cabana Bay or Royal Pacific...2-3 nts. For cruise, still up in the air on RCL vs DCL. When I first started considering cruises a few years back, I saw so many people sticking their noses up at anything that wasn't DCL, but some of those people are now questioning themselves and the value. That's not to say that DCL isn't supposed to be amazing...I've just seen more people starting to say that RCL ends up being better bang for your buck, especially if you have older kids and wind up sailing on an RCL Quantum or Oasis class ship. There's also the gambling aspect that I know makes RCL more appealing to DH. No decisions have been made yet or will be made any time soon, but if we decide RCL is the better option for us...it might not only give us the better experience for us, but save us some $. As for the WDW part...thinking 4-6 nts...GF, Contemporary or Boardwalk. But it's so far from now...who knows???

So, that's it. I'm sure there's more I intended to say, but just forgot. I appreciate everyone reading along and all of your wonderful comments. Now hopefully, work won't consume every moment of my life this year so I can read along about all of the other great trips you guys are having! :)
 

LisaBelle

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Really enjoyed your TR. It was great to see and hear your perspective on DL. I would love to have the chance to see Walt's park. Somehow I have a feeling that while I will enjoy it, I will feel as if WDW is really home for me. Thanks for sharing your trip with us. I am in a similar boat as far as not knowing when I will be able to return to WDW. Here's hoping you are able to return to Disney sooner rather than later.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Enjoyed your TR.. thanks for sharing! :)

Thanks for following along :)

Really enjoyed your TR. It was great to see and hear your perspective on DL. I would love to have the chance to see Walt's park. Somehow I have a feeling that while I will enjoy it, I will feel as if WDW is really home for me. Thanks for sharing your trip with us. I am in a similar boat as far as not knowing when I will be able to return to WDW. Here's hoping you are able to return to Disney sooner rather than later.

Can't wait to read your TR from the Princess :) One of these years, I will get to do it! And hopefully, we both make it back to the parks soon! Thanks for reading along :)
 

WDW74

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GREAT TR...and for us, extremely timely and valuable. After years of complaining that we have to visit "mecca" at least once, we're heading to DLR/DCA for the first time in 5 days and have a much better feel for how to set our expectations. Had considered a ski side trip, but we opted for a day in Uni, a day at the San Diego Zoo and a relaxation-spa day instead. After reading your TR, I think we made the right choice. I'm also thinking our 4 park days should be just enough to do everything we first-timers wanna do. We are truly WDW "bubbleheads" and I've been preparing the DW for the kind of different experince you describe. Staying at GC, so maybe a bit of a bubble, as you suggest ? Thx again for the time and effort you put into this !
 

HouCuseChickie

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GREAT TR...and for us, extremely timely and valuable. After years of complaining that we have to visit "mecca" at least once, we're heading to DLR/DCA for the first time in 5 days and have a much better feel for how to set our expectations. Had considered a ski side trip, but we opted for a day in Uni, a day at the San Diego Zoo and a relaxation-spa day instead. After reading your TR, I think we made the right choice. I'm also thinking our 4 park days should be just enough to do everything we first-timers wanna do. We are truly WDW "bubbleheads" and I've been preparing the DW for the kind of different experince you describe. Staying at GC, so maybe a bit of a bubble, as you suggest ? Thx again for the time and effort you put into this !

Thanks!!! :) I'll be curious to see how being at the GC for your stay impacts your experience and that bubble feeling. It's a gorgeous resort and obviously will afford you some conveniences, so that right there should help. As for skiing, it was one of those "great in theory," but not so much in real life kind of decisions. It was gorgeous up there and entirely different from everything you see around LA, but it was just too much with everything else going on with the trip. And the nervousness over the tire chains was just an overall mood killer. Have a wonderful trip!!! Can't wait to hear about it when you get back :)
 

catmom46

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If you look closely, you can even see the Denny's Christmas tree in the pic above.

We were relaxing, just watching some football over our meals, but we really needed to hit the road again...

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We'd grab some gas a little farther up the road and start heading back to LA. At some point, the kids needed to use the restroom, so we stopped at this strange random gas station. It had lots of signs that the bathrooms were only for paying customers. OK...we'll buy some sodas...but the store had no lights on inside and it was filled with odd little souvenir pieces and collectibles that were not so collectible. We get to the bathrooms and it looks like the toilets haven't been flushed for weeks...yet it doesn't smell. And there are signs saying they are having plumbing issues. So, I guess the toilets just wouldn't flush. We got out and I begged DH to buy sodas fast and get out...just seemed really off. Another couple showed up while we were there and it was a similar reaction for them.

I drove the rest of the way into LA and to our hotel for the night. I know some people like to get away to the country, but having grown up in the NY metro area, I seem to be much happier in the mess of suburbia in a major city. So, even though we hit a bit of traffic, I was really happy to be back in the LA area.

Our hotel for the night was right near LAX...in El Segundo to be exact. What's funny...we were only about 5-10 minutes away from our lodging those first few nights in Manhattan Beach. When I first booked this place, it was when I thought we'd be flying back from Mammoth and was hoping to use their free shuttle to and from LAX. I decided to stick with it since it would be good for getting to LAX with plenty of time on our return day.

The hotel was nothing overly exciting (although it was the girls' fave of the whole trip), but it was a Hyatt Place, which is pretty good for generic business travel. Nice...clean...modern...courteous staff...good wifi...and nice free breakfast. We check in with no issues and head up to our room. Well, not before the girls get all silly over the water wall and lobby decor.

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I think they all pretty much look like this...

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The room was also nice and spacious...

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For as close as we were to LAX (and we were close), we didn't hear a single bit of jet noise.

I think DH was really done with being on vacay, so we just did nothing until dinner. My MIL had given us gift cards for Christmas that she was hoping we could use for food while we were away. Mine was a Disney one and I put it towards our meal at Cafe Orleans, but DH's was for Outback Steakhouse. Not my favorite place, but I'm not going to complain at cutting the cost of a meal. We look online and the closest Outback is in Torrance. Not exactly a quick drive, but nobody wanted to go with my suggestion of In-N-Out burger...so, we drive to Torrance. The drive also reminded me of how I could go from there to get back to Anaheim if we wanted to see fireworks. Hey, I could also try and get a pic of Randy's Donuts...which we passed on our way out that day. But nobody was really up for that, so it was just a trip to Torrance.

The wait at Outback was LOOOOOONG because they have call ahead put your name on the list. We weren't really thinking about any of that, so we had just shown up. It also wouldn't help that the girls' tummies were still not 100%. We would eventually be seated, have a decent meal, and make the drive back to El Segundo.

We get back to the hotel, get everyone ready for bed and I start doing the final pack up. I remember finding the girls' Disney autograph hats in their carryon bags and having this mix of...I love how they turned out AND I can't believe this trip is pretty much over. Still, I think the hats turned out great.

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(still space for Donald to sign)

The hats are now hanging in their room near other park faves like their pin collection royal corkboard and homemade Frozen inspired snow globes.

The last thing I did before I tried to sleep was secure our luggage tags. The new American Tourister ones provided by Disney are super cute...

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...but they don't stay on as well as the older cheaper ones.



Coming up...our last day.

Ah, you were at the Outback in my 'hood! Yeah, not very exciting out here, I apologize. :D

Fabulous TR! I've been to Mammoth many times and it was nice to see all those pics on the road and at the resort and village, as it's been years since I've been back. Thanks so much for sharing! :)
 

fractal

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Great Job on the report! Really appreciate the time and effort.

You nailed some terrific shots of your girls, especially on the rides! Loved the mountain and snow photos.

I've tried skiing a few times and it's just not for me. I generally hate the cold and just found the entire experience not worth the effort (and money) you need to put in.
I think your report has reinforced that!

DL is a must do for any Disney Fan. I also stayed at the HoJo's which is fine enough, but as you said - the feeling of being in the "Disney Bubble" you get at WDW doesn't translate to DLR. And this despite
DL and DCA being superior to MK and DHS.

California has so much to offer and explore, but comes with a heavy price. Thanks again for sharing and goodluck with future trips!
 
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HouCuseChickie

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Ah, you were at the Outback in my 'hood! Yeah, not very exciting out here, I apologize. :D

Fabulous TR! I've been to Mammoth many times and it was nice to see all those pics on the road and at the resort and village, as it's been years since I've been back. Thanks so much for sharing! :)

Thanks! I guess there probably is no other good way of getting up to Mammoth, so I assume everyone who heads up there from the LA area goes that way.

That's too funny that we were in your area for dinner that night. If anything, I'm jealous that you have a Trader Joe's and all kinds of shopping so close by.

Great Job on the report! Really appreciate the time and effort.

You nailed some terrific shots of your girls, especially on the rides! Loved the mountain and snow photos.

I've tried skiing a few times and it's just not for me. I generally hate the cold and just found the entire experience not worth the effort (and money) you need to put in.
I think your report has reinforced that!

DL is a must do for any Disney Fan. I also stayed at the HoJo's which is fine enough, but as you said - the feeling of being in the "Disney Bubble" you get at WDW doesn't translate to DLR. And this despite
DL and DCA being superior to MK and DHS.

California has so much to offer and explore, but comes with a heavy price. Thanks again for sharing and goodluck with future trips!

Thanks!!!

It's funny, I love the cold and snow, but being on skis has just never been overly appealing. I promised them I'd ski whenever we go next, but to not expect it to be an every trip thing for me as I'd much rather take in all of the pretty scenery. The kids really enjoyed it, so that's pretty much a guarantee that we'll be going again.

It's strange how much I missed the bubble, but I think there's also something to be said for memories. No question that DL's PotC is superior to MK's, yet I still can't help but think of everything from WDWs...like when Kendall was terrified because she really thought we were being fired upon...possibly from our 2nd trip with them.

The taxes and fees on rental cars alone were beyond painful. Tack that on to the gas prices and convenience fees on each Diet Coke I bought DH outside of DLR and it all kind of drove me nuts. Still, it's worth dealing with it now and then to do something different.

Thanks again for following along :)
 

HouCuseChickie

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Good luck with moving and I hope it goes smoothly. I really want to stay put until retirement as i hate to move.

Thanks! We have a solid year of work to get this house ready. I really don't want to move, so I'm just trying to look at it like...I can start seriously planning vacations again once we move. This is all so DH can have a nicer commute...not like my hour+ commute is nothing. Still, I think it's a good opportunity to get the kids into a better school district. So, that's something. :)
 

Pooh'sBuddy

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Loved reading your trip report. I'm so sad that's it's come to an end. Some time soon, I'll have to read it over again. You've got me on a New Mexico ski trip kick right now. Thanks so much! :p Good luck with prepping your house. Hope it's not too stressful. Better schools are a good motivator.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Loved reading your trip report. I'm so sad that's it's come to an end. Some time soon, I'll have to read it over again. You've got me on a New Mexico ski trip kick right now. Thanks so much! :p Good luck with prepping your house. Hope it's not too stressful. Better schools are a good motivator.

Thanks :) I think New Mexico could be a fun trip. It shouldn't be a bad drive for either one of us and if you wanted something non-skiing at he beginning or end...Roswell and Carlsbad Caverns are options for an overnight stay if you opt to go through Abilene one of the ways vs. heading through Amarillo. Of course, if I suggest this at the wrong time to DH, I'll probably be accused of not wanting to ski and trying to turn this into something else. LOL :) So much work to do on this house, but hopefully things will go smoothly.
 

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