ford91exploder
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I'm not it reduced OPEX significantly and the gate count was unaffected (as far as WE know). Do Less - More Profit WDW's motto these days...
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I'm not it reduced OPEX significantly and the gate count was unaffected (as far as WE know). Do Less - More Profit WDW's motto these days...
matt9112
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true but gosh its pretty brazen. they just dont have any consequences of there actions no accountability.
flyerjab
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That really does look excellent. Hopefully the spires aren't too far behind.
jt04
Well-Known Member
....and a world class lighting package.
pumpkin7
Well-Known Member
Why would that instagrammer assume that they are building a permanent stage? Is that just what he thinks or have their been confirmations? I have read the last couple of pages and haven't seen anything so I assume he is just assuming himself...!
And yes, the Theatre looks great.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
They may just be trying to connect what they see behind the walls with what is rumored. What we see in that picture is not necessarily a new stage.
Goofyernmost
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Just a thought here, but, Catastrophe Canyon has been in operation for a long, long time. If I were a betting man, I would wager that it is less a situation of trying to save more money, but, deciding that it wasn't really safe or the equipment that was no longer going to be used, was in major need of replacement. Since, it is hardly a draw for the park, it is just wiser to close it then to keep it working looking sadder and sadder. But, sure, why not, it is always because Disney is nothing if not greed personified. Keeping in mind, of course, that Disney is not a business, but a magic fantasy land there only for our enjoyment.
pumpkin7
Well-Known Member
That could always be the reason. There were plenty of 'consumable' parts up there with all the fire and water. Maybe it was on the chopping block for later this year but a pipe burst or something and they decided it was the nail in the coffin.
I suppose there was no point in keeping the Backlot Tour going without Catastophe Canyon. It would have been over in about 5 minutes lol.
But now it's a shame that they've just left it there to rot. River Country 2.0!
Blairnicol
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Giant standing O for on-topic photos
roj2323
Well-Known Member
Ok now that i've zoomed in a bit theres more to talk about. There is pink concrete on the ground which is the finished color of the existing planters. The wheel tracks (presumably a concrete truck) back up the idea that the walls have been poured. The silver things are locks that grab ahold of the wall ties. The wall ties are a roughly 1/4in rod that passes from one side of the forms to the other and holds the two halves in parallel with each other during the concrete pour.
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Disney Analyst
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Look at that sexy roof!!
roj2323
Well-Known Member
Setting curved one time use forms like the ones they are takes time. It's not easy in daylight let alone at night with construction lights. (i've done it and it's a real PITA) There also seems to be a lot of rebar going in which takes time to place as well. Once this foundation is poured things should pickup speed. I doubt it will be wrapped up my may for star wars weekends but it could be close.
On another note I did notice that they moved the walls on the right side back about 20ft so you can walk on both sides of the planters (by the hot dog/ice cream stand) again.
flynnibus
Premium Member
curved forms? you mean like they put in on sidewalks and curbs in an afternoon? Or how about pools? Let's not act like Disney is having to re-invent the wheel here. This is stuff that takes days.. not 3-5 weeks. I know there are constraints... but you can buy speed for many things.. Disney doesn't seem to be motivated here for it.
George Lucas on a Bench
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So we're better off without the hat, but still screwed because a stage will be plopped in front of the Chinese theater.
roj2323
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Lets not pretend that pouring something that's 4-12 inches thick and wide is the same thing as pouring an 8-12 inch thick wall that's 4-6ft high. The amount of pressure at the bottom of the form is nearly 1,000 pounds per square foot. To add to this you don't want it to move or deform during the pour so that requires additional bracing.
I did this kind of work professionally for over 8 years. I know what I'm talking about. I agree it could have been done faster but considering the time constraints and limitations placed on the work to minimize disruptions to park operations (including the night time custodians, maintenance workers and other construction crews) the time they have taken to do this project is perfectly reasonable.
here's some reading material
concrete form pressure chart: http://www.gatesconcreteforms.com/pdfs/pressureChart.pdf
How they build the forms ( skip to page 18 for a visual of what the workers did at DHS: http://www.whitecap.com/wcsstore/WhiteCap/Images/PDF/Brigade_Concrete_Forming_Handbook.pdf
flynnibus
Premium Member
Yet we pour foundations like that all the time... without making it out to be radical. Again if you want speed, you can get it. This stuff could have been pre-fab'd or the majority of the forms (which from the last photo looks like they were).
Meh... the time table sucks, but its not foreign to these guys nor construction. This job is on the slowboat...
Animaniac93-98
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Star Wars weekends starts May 15. Don't they have to have the area finished by then so they can put the stage there?
roj2323
Well-Known Member
Supposedly but realistically I think it's a longshot at best
