Is Shanghai Disney Making Us Look Bad?

matt9112

Well-Known Member
Epic is such an over used word. Funny how all of the sudden video screens are "epic".

It's 2016 get used to it. If screens could be integrated as seamless in the 70s I'm sure they would have. I'm so over the screen critical argument. Evolve with technology or die.
 

SpaceMountain75

Well-Known Member
I don't think it will make us look bad. But, it will make us wonder why Disney decides to showboat better attractions overseas alone and never over here..

And my only other gripe is this.....
Why is The Storyteller's statue at Shanghai? This makes no Sense??
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Hot dang. That's quite the ugly setup.
 

Mickey5150

Well-Known Member
I love WDW. That's why I go there every year. I'm not someone who complains about what Disney is doing to the park, I love it, every day and each year I go. I could care less about any of the other Disney parks because to me WDW is perfect. It is my happy place and the most magical place on Earth for me. So Shanghai doesn't make WDW look anything to me...
 

FigmentPigments

Well-Known Member
I think that if someone went to Disney World then to Shanghai, he or she would put Shanghai above Disney World. Disney World will look flat by comparison. That saying, I loved their Pirates but I'm a little dismayed over the constant screens. I know time change and evolve, but I thought what set Disney apart was the details. It's hard to appreciate the details if half the ride is a screen. Still, I would love to see this ride in person. Maybe it would be different if I was there.
I don't understand the Tron ride, and frankly, I'm a little disappointed. I thought it was actually going to be more. It reminds me a lot of Rock n' Rollercoaster. Take out the street signs and replace it with the interior of Test Track 2.0 and that about sums up what I thought of the Tron ride. While it looks exciting, I wasn't impressed, sorry. :oops: Again, maybe it would be different if I saw it in person, but in the case of Tron, I don't think Shanghai is making Disney World look bad. Pirates: Yes, Tron: No
 

rob0519

Well-Known Member
I am OK with them closing a ride for a couple of years to update it. Especially into something that amazing. Times change and everyone needs to keep up with the technology. I know that is not possible with everything but they can do it with a couple of rides that would really benefit from it. And also the fact that they did such a crappy job on LM is inexcusable. And I am one of WDW's biggest fans. I go every year and usually choose to see only the good. But I think they can do much better if they wanted to.

I'm a big fan as well and after seeing what was build in Shanghai I'm even more offended by the Little Mermaid in the "new" Fantasyland.

As far as tearing down a beloved ride.....I was at a talk and book signing yesterday by Marty Sklar and the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. Marty was promoting his new book "One Little Spark" along with two current Imagineers. During the Q&A someone asked Marty what is the most difficult part of trying to keep DLR and WDW updated? His response was basically nostalgia. When they do research about removing or changing a beloved attraction, especially some of the oldest attractions at DLR, the overall response is: I rode that attraction as a kid, I took, my children to ride that attraction, My children are taking my grandchildren to ride that attraction you CAN'T take it away.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, with Star Wars Land and Avatar Land being build in Florida, it's highly unlikely we will see any updates to the MK anytime soon, but when we do I hope hey are more like Shanghai than the new Fantasyland.
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
Not in the slightest, because in years time there will probably be an attraction that puts Pirates and Tron to shame.
 

blueboxdoctor

Well-Known Member
I don't know. The Pirates ride looks like it is a lot of screens and digital footage, which doesn't do much for me (perhaps because I play a lot of video games, so animation like that doesn't do much for me). That said, it is still pretty cool. But it also makes sense they'd have more techy rides. They don't have the responsibility of maintaining the classics like WDW does. Plus, I like how the Pirates ride in WDW has only a few nods to the movies.

Now, I do agree the new Little Mermaid ride could have done with some better/more creative ideas. However, after getting over the initial excitement for New Fantasyland, I do like how the ride turned out.

Now, I'm interested what they do with Star Wars and Avatar. While I'm not an Avatar fan at all, I do think they could make that part of Animal Kingdom really cool.
 

jaklgreen

Well-Known Member
I'm a big fan as well and after seeing what was build in Shanghai I'm even more offended by the Little Mermaid in the "new" Fantasyland.

As far as tearing down a beloved ride.....I was at a talk and book signing yesterday by Marty Sklar and the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. Marty was promoting his new book "One Little Spark" along with two current Imagineers. During the Q&A someone asked Marty what is the most difficult part of trying to keep DLR and WDW updated? His response was basically nostalgia. When they do research about removing or changing a beloved attraction, especially some of the oldest attractions at DLR, the overall response is: I rode that attraction as a kid, I took, my children to ride that attraction, My children are taking my grandchildren to ride that attraction you CAN'T take it away.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, with Star Wars Land and Avatar Land being build in Florida, it's highly unlikely we will see any updates to the MK anytime soon, but when we do I hope hey are more like Shanghai than the new Fantasyland.

I can see keeping a lot of the older rides for the nostalgia. I totally get that taking away some of the classics like IASW, Dumbo, and Peter Pan would be like Disney is changing too much. People do want their kids to go on the same rides that they went on as a kid. But when you add something new, then I think it should be better(or as good as) what they did 40 years ago. The LM ride is a joke. I will see what they do with the new expansions at HS. If they cheap out on those then I am all for a revolt. LOL
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Imagine how epic they could make the Haunted Mansion if they rebuilt it today? But that's not really the point. The older rides have a certain classic and nostalgia feel, but newer rides have no excuse for being ordinary.

7DMT and VotLM have no excuse in being so "meh" and overall flat. They are solid, but nothing jaw dropping like riding Everest the first time or a Splash Mountain, built over 20 years ago.

I do think too many screens is just a lazy way of doing things and too many were used in Pirates, but they can be used minimally for effect such as in the falls and other scene transitions. They just used too many, my main criticism.
 

RiGoRmOrTiS

New Member
i don't think Shanghai is making any of the Disney parks look bad, Sure the new Pirates Ride looks good, but pretty much everything else looks underwhelming. The park itself is very sparse and has minimal theming; a lot of ugly open concrete. The Tron ride is ridiculously simplistic and short. That outdoor boat ride that has little musical water shows looks so poor with it's cheap dioramas (well they ain't small..) which are either stationary or simply spinning. Not to mention their answer for astro orbiters look like its built for a travelling fare.... compared to even HK Disney land I'm really un-impressed, HK Disney is small, but its theming and presentation are top notch; just like WDW. Shanghai appears to be missing that attention to detail and quality, its even visible in the poor food options at Shanghai disney. Their quick service meals pale in comparison to HK, WDW etc..
 

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