Is it legal to open a Disney themed park?

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
The definition of legal in the US isn't the same as in CA, RU, or CN. Legal only goes as far as the local courts/legislation lets it. The courts in some countries are notorious for not caring about/enforcing other countries intellectual property laws. China for one, usually pays lip service to any IP claims. And not until you actually are in a position to help them make money (I.E. Shanghai and Hong Kong) will they care about enforcing them. If the IP owner (in this case Disney) has enough clout they may be able to get some international pressure applied, but not often. And remember that in theory, in another 11 years, the copyright on Mickey from Steamboat Willie ends. I say in theory as they have already fought for legislation extending that 4 times I believe. So if they are unable to get yet another extension, just set your Mickey Mouse themed theme park to open in 2024 and you should be all set. (You just can't use the newer versions of Mickey if I understand my armchair law correctly).

Or if you have massively deep pockets, they may very well sign a licensing deal with you to open a new park. But on the whole, at least within most developed countries that respect IP law, Disney has every conceivable form of trademark/copyright/whatnot on everything they have created. And infringing that will bring the wrath of their legal department down on you.
 

Timekeeper

Well-Known Member
People shouldn't get too hung up on copyright terms and expiration dates. Trademarks, and any related doctrines, such as unfair competition and passing off, protect intellectual property in perpetuity. In other words, forever.
 

alissafalco

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Who would want to go to a fake Disney park anyway!Disney provides a quality product, who knows what a knock off would produce.

I agree with you, but people would go as an alternative if they couldnt afford to do Disney that year, or couldnt get there for whatever reason. Many people live far from Disney (I live in NY) and if this place opened up say in NJ and we didnt have the vacay time or money to do Disney I would take my kids there as an alternative for a weekend just for something to do.
 

DisDadEddie

Active Member
I agree with you, but people would go as an alternative if they couldnt afford to do Disney that year, or couldnt there for whatever reason. Many people live far from Disney (I live in NY) and if this place opened up say in NJ and we didnt have the vacay time or money to do Disney I would take my kids there as an alternative for a weekend just for something to do.
I live in NJ and being in the tri-state area we are lucky to have so many other attractions around. They couldn't make a Disney knock off in the United States. We still have Sesame Place, Great Adventure,Land of Make Believe,Dorney Park, Hershey Park, and so many other places. Sadley none of them compare to Disney. The cheapest weekend place we found that the kids enjoy is the Land of Make Believe. If you haven't been there take the kids, it is mostly for small children and they have a water section.$25 for kids $23 for adults, small place but great for kids.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I live in NJ and being in the tri-state area we are lucky to have so many other attractions around. They couldn't make a Disney knock off in the United States. We still have Sesame Place, Great Adventure,Land of Make Believe,Dorney Park, Hershey Park, and so many other places. Sadley none of them compare to Disney. The cheapest weekend place we found that the kids enjoy is the Land of Make Believe. If you haven't been there take the kids, it is mostly for small children and they have a water section.$25 for kids $23 for adults, small place but great for kids.

What about Knobele? Great park and very economical.
 

DisDadEddie

Active Member

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Tokyo Disney is a Disney sponsered theme park so how would that be fake. Here is the wiki information. It is owned by The Oriental Land Company, which licenses the theme from The Walt Disney Company. The park was constructed by Walt Disney Imagineering in the same style as Disneyland in California and Magic Kingdom in Florida.
I am well about the status of Tokyo Disney Resort. This thread started asking about licensed properties of which all of the international parks are, to some degree or another.
 

sweetpee_1993

Well-Known Member
Is Tokyo Disney Resort, near universally held as being the best of the Disney theme park resorts, an inferior fake?

This was exactly my thinking. But then I think perhaps DisDadEddie was referring to that scary knock-off that was also mentioned. Eek!


Tokyo Disney is a Disney sponsered theme park so how would that be fake. Here is the wiki information. It is owned by The Oriental Land Company, which licenses the theme from The Walt Disney Company. The park was constructed by Walt Disney Imagineering in the same style as Disneyland in California and Magic Kingdom in Florida.

Tokyo Disney is far from fake...yet it was not built by Disney, is not owned by Disney, and is not operated or maintained by Disney. OLC has a licensing agreement + a contract with Imagineering. From everything I've read about the place, it ~smokes~ the US parks that Disney built, owns, operates, and maintains. Definitely food for thought. IMO, it wouldn't be that far-fetched for Disney to have a secret little wish that they had that same type of arrangement for the US parks. Don't stone me here. Take off the fan-cap and think about it purely from a business standpoint. There's a lot less risk when you just hold the licensing agreement (+/-). If the economy tanks you don't have to worry about going into the red or stress over how to keep the numbers up. Getting a fat paycheck regardless for that licensing agreement PLUS a healthy cut when times are good has to be one sweet deal. Wouldn't ya think?
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
Now that I think about it....maybe the question isn't as straightforward as I thought it was.

Wouldn't the intellectual property rights to Disneyland expire at some point? That is, can one not at some point in the future - say 75 years after 1955 - build a carbon copy of Sleeping beauty castle? Will its image still be protected?
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
Tokyo Disney is far from fake...yet it was not built by Disney, is not owned by Disney, and is not operated or maintained by Disney. OLC has a licensing agreement + a contract with Imagineering. From everything I've read about the place, it ~smokes~ the US parks that Disney built, owns, operates, and maintains. Definitely food for thought.

Yep, it sure does...wish I was there right now
 

MattC

Well-Known Member
You'd need a licensing contract with Disney. It would cost millions (billions?) of dollars plus a healthy cut of your sales right off the top. Disney once tried to shut down a preschool because they had murals of characters on the walls.

http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/daycare.asp

Schools are also not allowed to show Disney movies because of license issues. Kinda sad that elementary schools cannot show Disney movies to Disney's target audience. But money is everything::sigh::
 
Schools are also not allowed to show Disney movies because of license issues. Kinda sad that elementary schools cannot show Disney movies to Disney's target audience. But money is everything::sigh::
Not really. Schools should be teaching students, not showing movies.....unless its an education movie and Disney puts out very few of those anymore.

If a school is going to allow teachers to show movies in class and waste my tax dollars, I would prefer them just let my child come home.
 

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