Is Disney's World Wide Expansion Hurting American Parks?

[DocMcHulk]

Please move this thread if this isnt the proper forum, but I had this idea the other day.

Over the past month or so that I have been a more active member here, I've read a lot about how we cant build this or that at WDW because money is being devoted to Hong Kong or Paris or Tokyo.

So, I have this question, do you think that the world wide expansion of the Disney Parks brand is starting to hurt the companies ability to maintain, plus, and build parks/attractions in America?

 

[DisneyWall-E]

If anyone spreads themselves too thin without the proper resources to maintain that expansion than the outcome will be worse off for all the parks. Question is do you think that Disney has the resources to keep up this global empire?

 

[DocMcHulk]

If anyone spreads themselves too thin without the proper resources to maintain that expansion than the outcome will be worse off for all the parks. Question is do you think that Disney has the resources to keep up this global empire?

I say no. but that is my opinion.

 

[krankenstein]

Tokyo wouldn't. The OLC pays to license the use of Disney characters and such. Think of Tokyo as being a completely different company.

 

[CastleBound]

I'm sure they have correctly allotted the appropriate amounts to maintain and propel each park. The thing is, to us, the ones who want everything in WDW, we are not getting everything we desire or could have because of worldly expansions.

We could argue that the money used outside of our country is wasted and could be used on homeland parks, but is that fair?? I'm sure we all wish they put every dime into adding to the greatest theme park on earth, but is that being realistic... nope.

I think other countries deserve their own versions of disney parks and I also think that it sort of helps our park. I think if we had the only 2 parks in the world, WDW and DL would be soooo out of control with guests that it might not be able to handle it or be a fun atmosphere. You gotta think about that as well. Would you want a congested park, unable to walk or ride easily or would we rather a little less expansion and a cleaner, safe, more spacious playground!

 

[EpcotServo]

Tokyo wouldn't. The OLC pays to license the use of Disney characters and such. Think of Tokyo as being a completely different company.

Yep, Tokyo is entirely separate, and entirely better.

 

[MousDad]

^ I know they're separate in funding, but are they really separate in other resources used to develop and build new attractions (i.e., WDI)?

 

[mhochman]

Tokyo wouldn't. The OLC pays to license the use of Disney characters and such. Think of Tokyo as being a completely different company.

Aren't the attractions still designed by the Imagineers from WDI?

 

[hokielutz]

I think other countries deserve their own versions of disney parks and I also think that it sort of helps our park. I think if we had the only 2 parks in the world, WDW and DL would be soooo out of control with guests that it might not be able to handle it or be a fun atmosphere. You gotta think about that as well. Would you want a congested park, unable to walk or ride easily or would we rather a little less expansion and a cleaner, safe, more spacious playground!

So when is Brazil getting their own Disney park?? :lol:
That amounts to 1/4 the congestion that the parks experience during the so called "off-season."

 

[krankenstein]

^ I know they're separate in funding, but are they really separate in other resources used to develop and build new attractions (i.e., WDI)?

Aren't the attractions still designed by the Imagineers from WDI?

WDI has a hand in it, no doubt, but most of the work for Tokyo is handled by OLC (WDI's work is more like consulting work). Work for Tokyo does not (normally) take place where work for the other parks does. OLC decides what they want, where they want it, and how they want it. TWDC just cashes the checks.

 

[Studios Fan]

If anyone spreads themselves too thin without the proper resources to maintain that expansion than the outcome will be worse off for all the parks. Question is do you think that Disney has the resources to keep up this global empire?

I think as long as they allocate money where needed and hire the right people they will be fine. Unfortunately sometimes they have failed in that regard. But I am optimistic about the future.

 

[wolf359]

I don’t see how, strictly from a maintenance standpoint, how construction in international parks is having any effect on the domestic parks. I think the expectations of the company have forced park management to become too focused on pinching pennies and scraping by on the absolute minimum, but I think that’s completely separate from international construction.

But from the creative side of things, I'd probably guess that if anything, expansions and new designs for the parks all over the world stand to have more benefit for domestic parks than anything else.

WED and WDI have always designed rides and attractions with an eye on how it could be used elsewhere in order to maximize creative energy and use outside funding to the greatest benefit.

I just think in recent years that WDI has taken clonability into account from a much earlier point of the design process, knowing a design that can be easily re-used has a much better chance of being approved in the first place.

So while it might not happen immediately, I think that a lot of the design and construction boom going on worldwide will eventually help generate new attractions in the domestic parks.

 

[EpcotServo]

Aren't the attractions still designed by the Imagineers from WDI?

Yes, but it's OLC paying Disney for Imagineering work, so if anything Disney is benefiting MORE from TDR, so there's just no excuse.

:lol:

:dazzle:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

^ I know they're separate in funding, but are they really separate in other resources used to develop and build new attractions (i.e., WDI)?

Yes, WDI is used as they are still tied to Disney.

WDI has a hand in it, no doubt, but most of the work for Tokyo is handled by OLC (WDI's work is more like consulting work). Work for Tokyo does not (normally) take place where work for the other parks does. OLC decides what they want they want, where they want it, and how they want it. TWDC just cashes the checks.

Exactly. WDI answers to what the OLC wants for something.


Sad...:lol:

 

[Okie Mike]

Please move this thread if this isnt the proper forum, but I had this idea the other day.

Over the past month or so that I have been a more active member here, I've read a lot about how we cant build this or that at WDW because money is being devoted to Hong Kong or Paris or Tokyo.

So, I have this question, do you think that the world wide expansion of the Disney Parks brand is starting to hurt the companies ability to maintain, plus, and build parks/attractions in America?

I don't pretend to know how those decisions are made, but they probably look at return on investment. I'm sure TDC execs would like to maintain "Disney Quality", but they have to balance that with shareholder's expectation.

 

[DisneyEverest]

So when is Brazil getting their own Disney park?? :lol:
That amounts to 1/4 the congestion that the parks experience during the so called "off-season."

:ROFLOL: That would be perfect. Free of the tour groups in the summer!

 

[DisneyDellsDude]

I'm sure TDC execs would like to maintain "Disney Quality", but they have to balance that with shareholder's expectation.

This seems to be a problem.

 

[ChrisFL]

I don't pretend to know how those decisions are made, but they probably look at return on investment. I'm sure TDC execs would like to maintain "Disney Quality", but they have to balance that with shareholder's expectation.

Right, number crunchers probably can't see $$ being made by "quality improvements".

As for the original question, other than Hong Kong, I don't see much happening at DLP...they got, what, 2 attractions in the past few years (Tower of Terror and the Crush coaster).

Then there's Shanghai, who knows what will happen with that.

 

[misterID]

Look at the damage Disneyland Paris did to adding more attractions to Disney World back in the 1990's. That's the answer to the OP right there.

The thing is, just because they're spending money on other parks, resorts, cruise ships, doesn't mean the group running Disney World would have invested any of that money in new attractions to Disney World if they weren't.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Right, number crunchers probably can't see $$ being made by "quality improvements".

As for the original question, other than Hong Kong, I don't see much happening at DLP...they got, what, 2 attractions in the past few years (Tower of Terror and the Crush coaster).

Then there's Shanghai, who knows what will happen with that.

Makes me worried for us, honestly. How can they create another DL while they are cutting WDI peeps that we need?