Is Disney still Disney?

[gtull1]

I know where you are coming from. the magical days from Disney are gone in a way. It's all about "cool, slick" rides and movies now. Sad huh? But I guess that's what sells.

 

[progroupie]

I find this Pixar vs. Disney business so silly. If some of those Pixar movies had been made with no mention of the Pixar name in the first place, everyone would consider them to the embodiment of Disney magic.

 

[yankspy]

Maybe YOU have changed in the past 20 years more than Disney has changed? I wonder if the whole "Disney is not as good as it once was" mantra could better be explained by looking inward. Maybe the changes that bother people are more associated with their changing lives as they grow up and/or get older than it is about something that Disney is doing or not doing.

Also, keep in mind that your memories of a past event will always elevate the positive. The whole... Yesterday was always better... The golden years that never were.... etc.

This sort of reminds me of when my grandmother tells me stories about the depression and says things like, "it was an easier time".

 

[nibblesandbits]

Yes yes, well no offense, but if that made you had nightmares at 16...I don't ever think you should ever go do anything remotely scary ever again! And for God's sake, don't go to a haunted house, or ride virtually any dark rides at the "other theme park in town", or even Dinosaur for that matter!

First, it didn't make me have nightmares, but it did scare the bejesus out of me.

Second...I don't go to Haunted Houses...Haunted Mansion is the closest I get and that scared me as a child. I also am terrified to ride Dinosaur and never have. I will readily admit to that. I will also probably never ride The Mummy and a few other ones at some other parks.

I agree that AE did appeal to the older set...and it is good to have rides like that. But, have you ever sat outside the entry way at Dinosaur? Another ride that seems to scare quite redily. I have...and I heard children screaming, pleading not to be taken on that. It breaks your heart.

Now, once again, I'm not saying that they should get rid of a ride like Dinosaur...because of this...I'm just letting you all know what it's like for these kids who are dragged on the rides by parents who don't pay attention or believe that Disney doesn't mean it's scary.

My guess though is that Disney wouldn't have taken out AE unless there was a major reason. My guess, b/c it was in the Magic Kindgom, it was deemed as not appropriate for that type of park, so they yanked it to "try" to make the attraction more family friendly. (Note, I said try...they didn't necessarily succeed.) If you look at it through Disney's standpoint though...it makes sense to take it away. (And maybe I'm talking crazy here...all I know is that if it scared a 16 year old who knows better that it's fake, to never go on it again...what on earth did it do to the kids who were taken on it, despite the warnings?) Now, had they built AE in DHS...it might still be here. On that, we'll never know.

 

[erasure fan1]

It's all about "cool, slick" rides and movies now. Sad huh? But I guess that's what sells.

Disney has always been about cool, slick rides and movies for me. Thats what has always made Disney so special to me. We are getting a lot of pixar but like others have said, pixar is disney, disney is pixar. My one big complaint about Disney in the last 5 or 6 years is the length of rides. Too many of the rides seem to be over before they start. I guess they cant all be splash mountain.:lol:

 

[Dukeblue1016]

Yes yes, well no offense, but if that made you had nightmares at 16...I don't ever think you should ever go do anything remotely scary ever again! And for God's sake, don't go to a haunted house, or ride virtually any dark rides at the "other theme park in town", or even Dinosaur for that matter!

While I absolutely loved AE and wish they had kept it around... it scared the heck out of me... and I once sat next to a little boy who in the dark was holding onto ME for dear life and literally was crying his eyes out...

he couldn't have been more than 6... his parents were next to him, who were apologizing to me after... and I didn't mind but I just felt absolutely terrible... little boy who clearly had no idea what was up was beyond terrified and was balling his eyes out on me...


and the point of it was to be scary, yes... but it really was TOO scary...

Disney has always been "Family" and if they have a ride where a 6 year old boy will go on unaware of what to expect (because not everyone is a diehard disney fan like us on here who has every detail about everything before they do it...) he is going to have nightmares...

and so will 16... 18... 20 year olds... Horror movies come out to scare someone... so you're saying if they give someone nightmares people should immediately stop seeing horror movies? or let's go the extreme of your statement "don't go on dinosaur" because... being trapped in a room with an "escaped alien" is related to a ride where you "go back into time with dinosaurs..."

so... Fire in the Sky scared the absolute living daylights out of me... I better not watch Jurassic Park??? :shrug:




And... my thoughts on the "disney isn't disney anymore" is this;

Disney is not going to be the Disney it was 10-20 years ago...

not only do they have to change rides (which I personally IMO think is for the best and they've done overall pretty well with) but... we change...

10 years ago I was 13 and Disney was just more fun because it was so much bigger than I could imagine and I couldn't wrap myself around it and didn't know every little detail to every little thing...

but now... we can quote every single narration to every single ride... we know where the drops are going to come on space mountain, you know the excitement of RnRC... ToT is basically now JUST an elavator ride because you've done it 45435834 times...

nothing is as good as it was the first time... in general...

it doesn't make it worse, and I think I kinda made it sound that way... I didn't... but being more mature (okay maybe not) than I was 10-15 years ago, being older, bigger, smarter (again, maybe not)... you're more involved in your surroundings, more aware... and it just takes away some of the magic of "HOW'D THEY DO THAT?!?!"

again... in my mind...


i don't love it any less... but it's a completely different experience