Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

bjlc57

bjlc57

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the bottom line is THIS.. if the crowds are truly down.. and you know that some bean counter somewhere... really knows this answer.. the Powers that be at DISNEY will be forced to take action.. either fixing the parks , or changing the attitude and or bringing back lost services .. and or ALL OF THE ABOVE.. but if people stop to show up. DISNEY... WILL GET THE MESSAGE.. and maybe in the long run this is a GOOD THING..
 
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DisneyCane

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Pepper's Ghost said:
That makes sense, but whoever or whatever is estimating waiting times really $ucks at it. 😁 Honestly tho, that goes way back too. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten into standby for something and the wait time posted was double or half of what it really was. The posted wait times are really unreliable. FP, FP+, and Genie just make it far more difficult for them to estimate.

I do think they try to steer crowds to different rides or areas of the parks by manipulating posted wait times. If for no other reason, it might be for safety alone. You don't want 80% of the crowd in one part of the park while you have capacity in others. What did that study once upon a time say? That some huge majority of people entering a theme/amusement park naturally turn right and go counter-clockwise?
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I wonder if the "go right" tendency is the same worldwide or varies based on the side of the road a country drives on? It's likely more related to the dominant hand and the fact that 90% of people are righties.

At the entrance toll plazas, when it's not peak entry time I will often see a line of a few cars at all of the booths towards the right while the left most booths are empty or just have one car at the window.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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TheMaxRebo said:
I have been looking at historical wait times shared on Thrill Data and what keeps showing up is that wait times are definitely compared to the most recent years, but more in line with 2016, 2017, etc ... so I think people may have just gotten used to just ever increasing wait times right before covid)

That, coupled with less things taking up capacity - thinks like VotLM like you mention but also loss of streemosphere (Citizens of Hollywood, etc) and there is just less "other stuff" to do so a higher % of people are in a queue, so I think that does all tie into lower crowds, but especially to the peak of like 2019 ... so not empty but definitely not peak crowds either
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The problem with tracking wait times is the time is a function of how operations is running the attraction and does not account for running one load or being very slow to dispatch the vehicles by the B team while the A team is setting throughput records or even the staffing levels.
They carry about as much weight as the TEA numbers that generate so much discussion.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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DisneyNeighbor said:
The childish discussion on off-topic subjects is why I don't visit this site on a regular basis any longer. I'm assuming most people want to read about the subject of the topic, not mindless arguing. The mods need to crack down on this and get people to STAY ON TOPIC.
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Honestly I blame Disney. There's very little of anything with any real meaning going on at Disney right now, or in the foreseeable future, that this is just about where every conversation goes, off track. If every thread stayed 100% on topic, it would be one heck of a boring site as like I said. What's really going on at the parks? Not enough to keep the site entertaining in my opinion.
 
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JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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erasure fan1 said:
Honestly I blame Disney. There's very little of anything with any real meaning going on at Disney right now, or in the foreseeable future. That this is just about where every conversation goes, off track. If every thread stayed 100% on topic, it would be one heck of a boring site as like I said. What's really going on at the parks? Not enough to keep the site entertaining in my opinion.
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Don't fret, the star bores talk will start any minute
 
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Lilofan

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erasure fan1 said:
Honestly I blame Disney. There's very little of anything with any real meaning going on at Disney right now, or in the foreseeable future. That this is just about where every conversation goes, off track. If every thread stayed 100% on topic, it would be one heck of a boring site as like I said. What's really going on at the parks? Not enough to keep the site entertaining in my opinion.
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Apparently ones with disposable income are going elsewhere or if not , or if no funds, staying put.
 
flyakite

flyakite

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Lovely day. Not crowded. Got my magnet less than a minute. Expected three deep at the pub, nope, got a walk-up margarita and I waved my arms around with my drink and did not hit anyone. If this is the DeSatan effect, then he is not hurting us regulars. I can deal with it. Every cloud has a silver lining
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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Ayla said:
It's easy enough for people to keep scrolling instead of tattling or whining about a curve in the conversation. (Not directed at you, PG.)
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Tattling on public message boards never made sense. Engage…or don’t. Make a point…or don’t. Never be “annoyed” wasting your time and then waste more by complaining.
DisneyNeighbor said:
The childish discussion on off-topic subjects is why I don't visit this site on a regular basis any longer. I'm assuming most people want to read about the subject of the topic, not mindless arguing. The mods need to crack down on this and get people to STAY ON TOPIC.
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Then you do what’s best for you…which is the way it should be.
erasure fan1 said:
Honestly I blame Disney. There's very little of anything with any real meaning going on at Disney right now, or in the foreseeable future. That this is just about where every conversation goes, off track. If every thread stayed 100% on topic, it would be one heck of a boring site as like I said. What's really going on at the parks? Not enough to keep the site entertaining in my opinion.
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We come here for info and/or to kill time…

So I don’t get the complaining about “on topic”

Human conversion never stays on topic. It’s part of the condition. Anyone ever been to a party? Jeez.

But you brought up a big source of the issue: not much changes.

People get mad when they think they’re being distracted from what’s “new” at wdw?

they opened tron…prices are going up…

That’s it. No really…that’s it. Beyond them telling you that you need a 7pm ticket for the same stuff
 
Chi84

Chi84

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DisneyNeighbor said:
The childish discussion on off-topic subjects is why I don't visit this site on a regular basis any longer. I'm assuming most people want to read about the subject of the topic, not mindless arguing. The mods need to crack down on this and get people to STAY ON TOPIC.
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It's usually the same few who consistently disregard the site's rule to stay on topic and avoid arguing; you can always use the ignore function. The mods generally only get involved when it becomes egregious. Often, they recommend taking the argument or off-topic discussion to private messages.
 

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