el_super
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So attendance isn't down at wdw?
No one has been complaining about the wait times.
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So attendance isn't down at wdw?
No one has been complaining about the wait times.
LSLS
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I'd guess attendance is down, but the things you would care about aren't. Wait times are similar as they have been according to what is posted (again, 4th withstanding). So if your top concern about it being crowded is that less people walked through the gates, you should be happy. If your top concern is lower wait times, price raises and reservations (which aren't hitting caps anyway) aren't helping much.
networkpro
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- In the Parks
- Yes
Tourist tax revenue is down for Orange county, so either folks aren't coming or Walmart and Publix are doing a booming business in sandwich ingredients.
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
That’s not true, it didn’t increase attendance to DL numbers but it drastically changed it from what it was. They’ve already made that money back and more in just the last decade… and they’ll continue to profit off the expansion for decades to come.
lentesta
Premium Member
The Federal Reserve finally weighs in on this : https://markets.businessinsider.com...tion-federal-reserve-hotel-revenue-2023-7?amp
el_super
Well-Known Member
Yeah, attendance increased, but for all the spending, DCA is still the least attended US Disney Park. It was still reliant on AP traffic to keep it running, and people getting free admission from Disneyland. Resort LOS didn't significantly increase either.
It's harder and harder to justify spending that kind of money on a theme park.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
$4.6B is having a marked influence on the US economy? Imagine the effect of injecting $3T into the economy.
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
That's what Bob said a long time ago, I guess it was his truth but some kid with glasses proved him out of touch.
solidyne
Well-Known Member
There's a difference between "generation" (economic activity) and "injection"(borrowing or simple money supply expansion). One productive, the other crippling and/or distorting.
solidyne
Well-Known Member
Vindicated!
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Not sure what the article proves in regards to people NOT going to Disney because of choosing Taylor... if anything her concerts ARE generating MORE money for people which in theory can make them have the ability to spend more money potentially on said vacation.....
lentesta
Premium Member
solidyne
Well-Known Member
Just some evidence of the big dollars families (presumably families with kids) are forking over this summer to travel to the shows, eat, lodge, etc.
Not every family, of course, but lots of families who maybe have never travelled and stayed overnight for a concert before. It's not huge, but it's not nothing.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
We didnt need an article to know the money thats been spent on concert tickets and what people have done to see taylor... but as been discussed i truly dont think there has been ANY material impact to Disney. Its just another "excuse" people want to use imo
Drdcm
Well-Known Member
I agree with you on this. I think my satisfaction and number of trips dropped because the experience was diminished by long lines. I think low crowds will inevitably improve my guest experience and I’ll have a much better time. This seems to be happening and played out during a day trip for me after spring break where I had a blast.
That’s why I’m so frustrated with limiting EMH to deluxe resorts and charging separately for days when the parks are open super late. I want the lower crowds for a better experience.
The problem is, will the improved experience with low crowds just drive attendance back up?
solidyne
Well-Known Member
Well, to be fair, the article reveals the vastness of the tour, something those who don't follow pop culture might not be clued into. They may assume this is "just another pop star."
It certainly doesn't change Disney numbers on its own. It just something else to add to the stew of reasons.
(Even Len simply said "lots of folks" not "Taylor Swift is killing attendance!!" Other posters were making incorrect inferences.)
Splash4eva
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point is this... we did not need an article to state the obvious & ill stand by my original take... there is absolute minimal to ZERO impact on Disney from this concert tour.
Reasons Why People Aren't Visiting Walt Disney World This Summer:
- Summer temperatures
- Thunderstorms
- Taylor Swift concert spending
- COVID testing facilities have shut down
- Someone has to buy up all the Bud Light Kid Rock isn't drinking these days
- Supply chain disruptions
- Minor league baseball game concession spending
- Still hungover from the NFL draft parties
- Spent too much on neighborhood fireworks for July 4th celebrations
- Monarch butterfly tracking
- Someone reversed the polarity of the neutron flow
You may add paying rent / mortgage on time and buying food is more important.
Oh, would you stop with the logical arguments? Don't you know that spending on capacity isn't worth it? el_super said so, therefore it MUST be true. He knows everything, just ask him. It couldn't be that park spending under Iger has been both grossly mismanaged (a new WDI hallmark) and misdirected, in most cases. The 2012 DCA spending was justified. The junk since? Don't even get me started.