Interesting Disney Parks Survey Question I got Today - Tiered Ticket Pricing by Season

lentesta

Premium Member
Does anyone have a handy list of the dates in 2014 for which the MK closed for capacity? I know it's on the WDWMagic news feed. Am hoping not to have to scroll through it if I don't have to.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
When is enough, enough?

Walt was bothered by the critics who accused him of trying to stick it to his guests for more money. He desired to keep Disneyland affordable. In a report of an account by Pat Williams in his book on Walt Disney he said, “Walt wanted to keep Disneyland affordable and was alarmed when the parking fee went from twenty five cents to fifty cents. That was huge to him. He once said, there will always be a 10 cent cup of coffee at Disneyland.

So sad, I wonder what Walt would think?

W.W.W.T

Walt would say "Go the week of Labor Day!"
 

Jeff456

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It's sad to see such a sharp rise in 10 years. We went for 15 straight years, sometimes twice in a year, and it went from a few grand to buying a used car almost overnight. The hotels i can understand, but the ticket prices can't be justified. How can you ask any 5 person working family to drop over 500 in one day tickets, and another 20 to park, at least 150 in food and god forbid you actually buy something you can take home. 800 for 12 hours looks ridiculous on paper, because it is.
Yeah it's completely redciculous but Disney don't want single day visitors they want people to take multi day breaks
 

Kman101

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This is a terrible idea. It's greed and their way of getting more money without it being the typical annual price increase. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth in all honesty.

And I'd be curious to know what crowds Epcot would pull without the festivals taking up half of the year. I'm sure it helps that World Showcase is still interesting, they have the popular Illuminations and it's on the monorail loop, but those festivals must pad the numbers.
 

bjlc57

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this survey has put such a bad taste in my mouth to the point where I don't even want to come here and read the discussion.. I just can't believe , that time and time again, hurricanes, or economic depressions, nothing stops the onslaught of the bean counters and the Less for more attitude at Disney world.. lets face it : the ANTI-WALT's have won.. to a point.. I said this on this site years ago.. the tipping point is coming.. ( even though others here don't believe so).. when it does.. ITS GONNA BE A BIG MESS..
 

lentesta

Premium Member
Link the blog here so we can see it!

Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.
 

BrianV

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Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.

Great blog. I'd focused on the one day price. I hadn't paid enough attention to catch the multi day increases. Ouch!!!
 

pajammies

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Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.

Am I reading that right? :eek: That it could be almost a $200 increase for a 7 night stay? (for bronze) If that's true, I'm gonna be sick!
If Disney wants people to stay longer, that chart doesn't even make sense. I'm specifically looking at bronze level, because that's when we usually go, but after the 3rd-4th day, I wouldn't want to pay those prices anymore.
How does a person look at that and say "that's a bargain"
And that's per person!? Please tell me I'm reading that wrong. I admit I feel like I'm missing something in that chart though, because I don't see how you come up with those prices. :confused:
 

asianway

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Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.
It hadn't registered how much of the back end discount got removed - wow! That may mean shorter stays but that may be the goal
 

lentesta

Premium Member
Am I reading that right? :eek: That it could be almost a $200 increase for a 7 night stay? (for bronze) If that's true, I'm gonna be sick!
If Disney wants people to stay longer, that chart doesn't even make sense. I'm specifically looking at bronze level, because that's when we usually go, but after the 3rd-4th day, I wouldn't want to pay those prices anymore.
How does a person look at that and say "that's a bargain"
And that's per person!? Please tell me I'm reading that wrong. I admit I feel like I'm missing something in that chart though, because I don't see how you come up with those prices. :confused:

It's entirely possible my math is off, so feel free to check it.

I think the proposed numbers are just placeholders for Disney. That or they assume people aren't going to do the math. It's unlikely they can support those kinds of price increases.
 

pajammies

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It's entirely possible my math is off, so feel free to check it.

I think the proposed numbers are just placeholders for Disney. That or they assume people aren't going to do the math. It's unlikely they can support those kinds of price increases.

I'm not doubting your ability, I'm sure I'm missing something. Besides that doesn't really matter anyway, my concern was more with the increase not whether or not you got the prices right.
I only thought maybe I was comprehending it wrong, so I tried to do the math. Tried is the key word here. :D

Is there any chance they'll drop this whole mess? Or once it's out there does that usually mean they're all in? Cuz them are some scary numbers!!
 

MaxsDad

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Original Poster
Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.
Len,

The multi day ticket prices in the survey I got are different (lower) than the one you posted. They must have been floating around different numbers out there to see what would come back???
 

PhotoDave219

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Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.

Nicely done. I think those last two points in the post show exactly what this is about. Money & perception. The park must be busy because we paid a premium.
 
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lentesta

Premium Member
Len,

The multi day ticket prices in the survey I got are different (lower) than the one you posted. They must have been floating around different numbers out there to see what would come back???

Yeah, I think that's likely. It's what they do with PIN codes these days - same offer text, different numbers.
 

stretchsje

Well-Known Member
Here's my take on it, via our blog. Thanks again to @PhotoDave219 for the idea.

I'm comfortable with the basic points, both pro and con. The post is a little less polished than I would have liked, because of other work that has to get done. I may go back and point out how few days the park actually closes for capacity, for example. And while I think the "more maintenance" angle is valid, I think I could have done a better job explaining it. And I think the cons outweigh the pros. But again, for a blog post, not bad.

Bonus: I got called a "shill for Disney" in the first 20 comments.
Great post Len, but I don't think Disney would raise prices by up to 90% for the longer stays. Why? Because it's been Disney's goal to keep people on property for as long as possible. That's the whole point of their current pricing system as well as programs such as Magical Express. With Universal's influence growing, I would expect financial incentives to stay on Disney property only to grow.

I thus think tiered ticketing will be for single day tickets only, or at worst, 3-or-less day tickets.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
It hadn't registered how much of the back end discount got removed - wow! That may mean shorter stays but that may be the goal

No way...less days? Disney has done everything in their power to make you extend your stay. Shorter stays means you go elsewhere. They want you captive and on-site for your entire vacation. They want you to have to eat Disney food 3x a day, to have to walk through Disney gift shops as much as possible, spend as many nights in their hotels as they can get you.

The goal here is to push how far they can push.
 

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